Re: Ian White calls Bettman an Idiot
posted at 11/19/2012 12:41 PM EST
In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:
In response to shuperman's comment:
What's left for the players after this. No free agency until 28. Reduced contracts in years and money. A cap that limits teams. Yes these players are rich. But soon there will be no need for agents or gms bc the players haven no say. The league is making money off their talents. I get your entire I own it stance that the owners are taking. But this is just stupid. And you have yet to answer my question about all the last minute contracts and huge deals signed this summer up to lock out time. The players should be able to sue. Were the owners informed of all this on the first day of the lock out? These guys new exactly what they were doing. Why couldn't they play under the current cba. The players would have. And yet you still side with the owners.
What's left for the players: Multi-million dollar contracts.
Players will have no say: They will always have the right to go do something else.
The owners and the players agreed on those contracts with the lockout looming. Both were well aware that the terms would most likely be changed.
They couldn't play under the current CBA for two reasons:
1. The owners would lose all leverage to make the necessary changes. The current CBA is largely in favor of the players, so they'd be very, very slow to get to the table to make anything happen. It's like when an older CBA was largely in favor of the owners and the players went on strike before the playoffs started.
2. The current CBA isn't working properly and needs to be changed.
1. Leverage for what? Reducing salary so they can benefit from this with$. That's what this is about. They can then control contracts$ control term$ and control age at which they can go ufa$. It's cost control. Stop paying for the 5 or 6 cities that are a mess. That's costing $. Sink or swim. Largely in favour of the players? Laughable. If the league is making money riding the coat tails of the 10 strong. And they continue to increase ticket prices who gets this money? The nhlpa lost a lot with the cap. I was in favour of a cap system. The players weren't. The owners got everything in the last cba lock out and the rich smart teams still found a way to get around their own cba. So now they have their cap. Which was done to protect small markets. Now they want to control the players. 28 before ufa. laughable. I like 5 year max deals. grandfather current contracts. Ensure large AHL contracts stay as part of NHL clubs cap. And permit one contract dump per year.
2. See 1. its not working bc? Because of the owners. Again. They won the last cba in a landslide.
So if players are getting pay cuts, the league is making money and ticket prices are increased who gets this extra money. Shouldn't ticket prices come down?