If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

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    If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    If the Bruins decide next year that Dougie is ready to play with the big boys, who will the Bruins decide is off the roster? It's a pretty tough call for the B's, as a lot of the players on the blue line are considered "core".
    Big Z - Not going to happen for many obvious reasons.
    Seids - See above, but less obvious.
    Ference - While he may not be the most gifted player, it's obvious that he is one of the players that keeps the Bruins moving, and seems to be one of, if not, the locker room leader. Hard to take away that dynamic.
    Corvo - It all depends on how he progresses. If he starts gelling with the team, it will be awfully hard to move him.
    McQuaid - Just signed a 2 or 3-year extension, and plays pretty solid lockdown D. Not the best offensive player, but his tough guy mentality is matched (maybe) by only Thornton on this team (I still love seeing the video of Ehrhoff turn around and about to start taking swings, and then saw that it was McQuaid and immediately turtled up).
    Boychuck - B's developed him, and fans seem to have mixed feelings on him. Some love him for his huge hits; some think he makes a lot of bonehead plays. Not entirely sure on his locker room status.

    If things were to remain the same, it would be hard to allow Boychuck to go when Corvo really isn't doing much.
    But if Corvo picks his game up and starts playing the way that the B's hoped he would play? I think the B's get rid of Johnny-B. I'd miss the hits, but I think if Dougie puts on an other 10-15 lbs, I think he'll be more than capable to replace that.
     
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    Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    I doubt Hamilton is in next year. But I still wouldn't be surprised if both Boychuk and Corvo had new homes next season.

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    If the Bruins decide next year that Dougie is ready to play with the big boys, who will the Bruins decide is off the roster? It's a pretty tough call for the B's, as a lot of the players on the blue line are considered "core". Big Z - Not going to happen for many obvious reasons. Seids - See above, but less obvious. Ference - While he may not be the most gifted player, it's obvious that he is one of the players that keeps the Bruins moving, and seems to be one of, if not, the locker room leader. Hard to take away that dynamic. Corvo - It all depends on how he progresses. If he starts gelling with the team, it will be awfully hard to move him. McQuaid - Just signed a 2 or 3-year extension, and plays pretty solid lockdown D. Not the best offensive player, but his tough guy mentality is matched (maybe) by only Thornton on this team (I still love seeing the video of Ehrhoff turn around and about to start taking swings, and then saw that it was McQuaid and immediately turtled up). Boychuck - B's developed him, and fans seem to have mixed feelings on him. Some love him for his huge hits; some think he makes a lot of bonehead plays. Not entirely sure on his locker room status. If things were to remain the same, it would be hard to allow Boychuck to go when Corvo really isn't doing much. But if Corvo picks his game up and starts playing the way that the B's hoped he would play? I think the B's get rid of Johnny-B. I'd miss the hits, but I think if Dougie puts on an other 10-15 lbs, I think he'll be more than capable to replace that.
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    Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    If Johhny B and Joe Corvo want to be Bruins next season they need to be more consistent, tighten up their games. Good thing is it won't take much to resign either. Me thinks Ference and Seidenberg keep re-signing at similar rates they are currently at then retire as Bruins.

    http://www.capgeek.com/free_agents.php?year_id=2012&team_id=-1&position_id=D&fa_type_id=2

    Here are your Dmen free agents for 2012 with just around $3M (if Boychuk and Corvo are both gone) to spend depending on how much PC spends on Tuukka and Krejci after Hamilton is kept up in Boston.
     
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    i think Corvo would be the odd man out if Hamilton is in D. I think the Bs will let him play the first nine or ten games to see what he has then depending on that they will keep him or send him back.
     
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    I hope he's not in next year. They have enough depth to take the slooooowww route with him. Make sure he's 100% ready before bringing him up with the big guys. BUT I'm not really sure what the rule is with the AHL. If he continues to dominate the OHL and he's not allowed to play in the AHL he might benefit more playing with the Bruins. 
     
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    I hope he's not in next year.  If he continues to dominate the OHL and he's not allowed to play in the AHL he might benefit more playing with the Bruins. Posted by dalexander2424


    Nice contradiction, 93 clueless posts!
     
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    I hope he's not in next year. They have enough depth to take the slooooowww route with him. Make sure he's 100% ready before bringing him up with the big guys. BUT I'm not really sure what the rule is with the AHL. If he continues to dominate the OHL and he's not allowed to play in the AHL he might benefit more playing with the Bruins. 
    Posted by dalexander2424

    I'm with you on this slow route thing Dale. The amount of young D-men who benefitted from some time in the minors is far higher than the number of young D-men who have successfully skipped the AHL all together.
     
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    In Response to Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out? : Nice contradiction, 93 clueless posts!
    Posted by SanDogBrewin

    I clearly said how I'd rather him play in the AHL than with the Bruins, but if the decision is between having him play in the OHL with no challenge, or struggle a bit with the Bruins, I'd take the Bruins. 
    P.S.You really hurt my feelings when you call me clueless on the internet. HAHA 
     
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    I hope he's not in next year. They have enough depth to take the slooooowww route with him. Make sure he's 100% ready before bringing him up with the big guys. BUT I'm not really sure what the rule is with the AHL. If he continues to dominate the OHL and he's not allowed to play in the AHL he might benefit more playing with the Bruins. 
    Posted by dalexander2424


    He has one more year of eligibility in the OHL.
     
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    In Response to Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out? : I clearly said how I'd rather him play in the AHL than with the Bruins, but if the decision is between having him play in the OHL with no challenge, or struggle a bit with the Bruins, I'd take the Bruins.  P.S.You really hurt my feelings when you call me clueless on the internet. HAHA 
    Posted by dalexander2424


    I hate when people post this. It is a statement based on not knowing the quality of play in any CHL league ( WHL, QMJHL or the OHL ). I've seen this for Knight , Spooner and Hamilton. None of them are dominating at this level. They are just included with some of the better players in the league.
     
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    Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    I think its highly likely that Dougie does another season in the OHL.  He won't be at least 20 yrs. old until after the end of the 2012-2013 season, and therefore, I believe he's ineligible for the AHL until the 2013-2014 season.

    While Dougie has a ton of innate abilities, one has to remember that playing D is a different animal.  It involves recognition/decision-making and the discipline to resist what one would naturally think and want to do.  Its natural to run over and help out a partner, but one is supposed to stay home and cover their own area of the ice.  Dougie needs some refinement of his recognition skills and discipline at the AHL level.  I wouldn't rush him up.  I'd give him the full three years to refine skills and fill out.  He was only 193 lbs. at summer camp weigh-in.  He could use another 20-30 lbs. before facing NHL competition.
     
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    Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    Let Boychuk and Corvo go. Sign Suter for $5.5M and let Kampfer play everyday.

    Chara - Kampfer
    Suter - Sieds
    Ference - McQuaid

    You can let Dougie develop his game for another year or two.
     
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    Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    Suter's likely to get between 6 and 7 depending on where he goes. I'd legitimately prefer a trade for Bouwmeester.

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    Let Boychuk and Corvo go. Sign Suter for $5.5M and let Kampfer play everyday. Chara - Kampfer Suter - Sieds Ference - McQuaid You can let Dougie develop his game for another year or two.
    Posted by NiftyKJ

     
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    Hamilton wont be ready next year. AHL material in 2012 but look out after that. this kid is the real deal for sure........
     
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    Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    I don't see why can't make the jump.  Obviously its going to come down to how he does in camp, but he's a big kid, and is absolutely tearing up the OHL this year playing big minutes and all situations which should serve him well.  At that age, and that size, you are putting weight on pretty quick.  Just think back to the difference between Freshman and Junior year of college.  If he comes into camp at 6'5" and 210-215 (which I would say is completely possible) I think he'll be NHL ready.  Maybe not a top pairing guy, but he could probably get time and be more effective than the bottom 3 on our current team.
     
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    Growth spurts screw with your body. A lot. I went four inches in about six weeks once, I was in pain and pulling muscles for months, and I was still pretty active then. That doesn't even factor in learning to use your newly proportioned body all over agiain.  Add on top of that the adjustment not just of jumping two levels of play, but to a new system, and going from top pairing minutes to realisticly 9-12 a night and the constant attack of guys the size of Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, and even Neal who have all been 200lbs+ for half a decade or more and know how to use their size and its a huge adjustment. I'm not saying it can't be done, but if you expect him to be on the roster next October

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    I don't see why can't make the jump.  Obviously its going to come down to how he does in camp, but he's a big kid, and is absolutely tearing up the OHL this year playing big minutes and all situations which should serve him well.  At that age, and that size, you are putting weight on pretty quick.  Just think back to the difference between Freshman and Junior year of college.  If he comes into camp at 6'5" and 210-215 (which I would say is completely possible) I think he'll be NHL ready.  Maybe not a top pairing guy, but he could probably get time and be more effective than the bottom 3 on our current team.
    Posted by Chappy28

     
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    Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    Growing 4 inches in 6 weeks? Looks like Cialis isn't doing it for you. That's pretty slow.

    But that is the most over-analyzed post of anything that I have ever seen. Ever. In my life.

    By adjusting to your new weight, your only going to be stronger. He's not going to be off-balance because he gained some muscle. It's a slow process to put muscle on (by the way, nobody grows 4 inches in 6 weeks.......that's Sean-Penn reta***d), and you don't just wake up one morning and your chest is 4 inches bigger around. If you're gaining weight so fast so that you can't adjust to it, you should be tested for steroids. And if you're growing 4 inches in a little over a month, you need to be investigated for HGH use. Or put down the milk, because Cal Ripken used to recommend 3 glasses of milk per day; not 25.
     
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    You're an expert on human growth? I'm not talking about other people, just me. Weird growth spurts are fairly common in my family. And when you put on bone mass that does nothing to add soft tissue like muscle, tendons or ligaments. Those normally come later.

    If this is too much for you I'm sorry you're a moron who believes their experience is the be-all end-all of human existence.

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    Growing 4 inches in 6 weeks? Looks like Cialis isn't doing it for you. That's pretty slow. But that is the most over-analyzed post of anything that I have ever seen. Ever. In my life. By adjusting to your new weight, your only going to be stronger. He's not going to be off-balance because he gained some muscle. It's a slow process to put muscle on (by the way, nobody grows 4 inches in 6 weeks.......that's Sean-Penn reta***d), and you don't just wake up one morning and your chest is 4 inches bigger around. If you're gaining weight so fast so that you can't adjust to it, you should be tested for steroids. And if you're growing 4 inches in a little over a month, you need to be investigated for HGH use. Or put down the milk, because Cal Ripken used to recommend 3 glasses of milk per day; not 25.
    Posted by TheGuyWithDaThing

     
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    Growing 4 inches in 6 weeks? Looks like Cialis isn't doing it for you. That's pretty slow. But that is the most over-analyzed post of anything that I have ever seen. Ever. In my life. By adjusting to your new weight, your only going to be stronger. He's not going to be off-balance because he gained some muscle. It's a slow process to put muscle on (by the way, nobody grows 4 inches in 6 weeks.......that's Sean-Penn reta***d), and you don't just wake up one morning and your chest is 4 inches bigger around. If you're gaining weight so fast so that you can't adjust to it, you should be tested for steroids. And if you're growing 4 inches in a little over a month, you need to be investigated for HGH use. Or put down the milk, because Cal Ripken used to recommend 3 glasses of milk per day; not 25.
    Posted by TheGuyWithDaThing


    My chuckle for the morning .
     
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    Don't limit yourself to just 1 Chowdah.
     
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    News flash: Wearing high heels does not indicate a growth spurt.
     
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    In Response to Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out? : Don't limit yourself to just 1 Chowdah.
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    Good advice.  I do live by that type of motto.
     
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    Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out?

    I think he'll be on the team next year.  Look around the league at high 1st round dmen.  They are all playing in the league by 19.  
     
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    I think he'll be on the team next year.  Look around the league at high 1st round dmen.  They are all playing in the league by 19.  
    Posted by derrickmorin

    More out of necessity than by design in most cases. High draft pick usually equals bad team. The Bruins don't fall into that category. I'll go on record as saying I'd love to see Hamilton wow everybody in camp and make the team next year but if he dosen't, I won't view him as any less of a prospect.
     
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    In Response to Re: If Dougie is in next year, who's out? : More out of necessity than by design in most cases. High draft pick usually equals bad team. The Bruins don't fall into that category. I'll go on record as saying I'd love to see Hamilton wow everybody in camp and make the team next year but if he dosen't, I won't view him as any less of a prospect.
    Posted by dezaruchi


    Good point. ithink he will be a necessity next year though. They do not have great depth at D and the free agent crop is not good.
     
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