Re: In Chiarelli We Trust?
posted at 3/21/2013 11:31 AM EDT
In response to Bookboy007's comment:
In response to SanDogBrewin's comment:
When do Bruins 20 goal scorers in the AHL get shots when Julien wants Chiarelli to get vets...
Did Marchand just get lucky that there was an opening ?
It came down to Sauve and Caron at the begining of 2011-2012 season. One was coming off a 21 goal season in the AHL the year before and the other scores 13. I watched the pre-season games and Julien goes with the mucker...
Trend ? Peverley was being shopped with no takers before Kelly get hurt. MacDermid sits for Thornton.
When do the prospects get a chance ? in Boston only when injuries occur...
See, I disagree about the whole "Julien wants vets" thing. I think you hear that from every fanbase in every sport - the coach wants vets. It comes from the perception that a veteran is what he is - responsible mucker, or professional but second-rate and in decline - where a rookie can be a less-effective player but people want him to play ahead of the veteran because "he'll develop into a better player". But if the guys doesn't have the skills or physical abilities to play in the NHL, throwing him in just to give him a chance is a disaster, and it's not good for the team. The other veterans who had to earn their way onto the roster look at that and see a guy who has been a pro lose his job to a kid who hasn't shown he belongs? Not good for anyone.
I think coaches want to win. All coaches. If they don't win, they don't keep their jobs unless their names are Trotz or Ruff, and even then, eventually, it'll catch up to you. To paraphrase some guy who used to play goal for the Bruins, I think Claude has a pretty good idea of how to evaluate whether players can play the role he needs them to play, and I don't think he's taking advice at this time.
And CJ has worked a lot of youth into this lineup. Lucic wasn't an injury fill-in - he bulled his way onto the team because Claude saw a role for him. Seguin wasn't an injury fill-in, and his ice was controlled as they tried to improve his decision-making (see whole other thread). The Bruins didn't pursue a veteran D-man in the offseason because they committed to Hamilton. Boychuk served a long apprenticeship and then seized the permanent opportunity. Same with McQuaid. Marchand earned a spot on the third line and worked his way up. Caron was a better player in camp han Sauve - more complete regardless of the number of AHL goals they scored. He went back to the AHL because he wasn't better than Pouliot. He still isn't, but they didn't re-sign Pouliot because they were going to give him first shot. Being good in the AHL doesn't mean you can play in the NHL, especially in a third line role. Look at ordinary average superstar Mikko Lehtonen. 28 goals his first pro year, 23 the next, then he took his passport and went to the SEL where he scored 30 his first year...before bolting for his third league in three years and being an average KHL player at best. (Note: Lehtonen's numbers in the SEL look almost exactly like Yetiberg's this year - adjust your Yetiberg expectations accordingly.)
A big difference of the "top 6" let alone top 12 when Luc and Krej came on the scene. After Savard everyone was replaceable, and Berg was hurt. How do you not play both rooks when all you have is Sturm, Kobasew, Kessel-2nd year, Metropolit, Murray's last year, PJ's 2nd last year(so glad he is gone Cj would have him centering the top line), Schaefer, Nokelainen, Thornton, Sobotka, Bochenski, Reich(yes 2 dancing clowns at once).
When you have a coach willing to play 2 dancing clowns Reich (2G 2A 4Pt) 78 pims, Thorn 74 pims 4G 3A 7Pt) and Lucic 89 pims(8G 19A 27Pts), please explain the reason of having either one let alone both.
We could have seen Pelletier, Matt Hendricks(he can skate), Nate Thompson or even the unforgettable Slattengren. Hamill could have even finished out the season and he would have been better than half the team.
This year there was 1 position and Cj wasted it on only giving the time to Bqe, now it is Caron, with time required for Kelly lets throw in Panda. Spooner gets a shot with Krej out that he should have already had.
Thorn hasn't been replaced because how can you replace someone that can turn on one skate and then hop into absolute blazing speed, MacD doesn't have a chance with his PK abilities over this.
Cj's defensive smarts are also his weakest links.
Pevs is thrice the player of Kelly and hopefully he does not get shipped any time soon.