It was so cold in Boston the other day...

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from jacobspleasesell. Show jacobspleasesell's posts

    It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    ... I saw Jeremy Jacobs actually had his hands in his OWN pockets!

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from Not-A-Shot. Show Not-A-Shot's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from Wheatskins. Show Wheatskins's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    Jeremy had his hands in his pockets because didn't want the money he saved during the lockout to slip out and blow away throughout the city.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from jacobspleasesell. Show jacobspleasesell's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from Not-A-Shot. Show Not-A-Shot's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to jacobspleasesell's comment:



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     




    My life is exactly the same right now, even thought they missed half a season in 1994, and the whole '04-05 season.  In fact, my life is exactly the same after this lockout also.

     

    Come to think of it, my life is the same whether the NHL exists or not.  If you don't feel the same, you have issues.

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from kelvana33. Show kelvana33's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to jacobspleasesell's comment:

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     




    If Jeremy Jacobs has as much influence on the NHL as you say he does, and I'm not arguing that, what about the record revenues they've had and the fact that the game was more popular than it ever was before the lockout? Your just going to overlook that? I've said it before and I'll say it again because it is true. If every owner ran their franchise like Jacobs did, there would not have been as many work stoppages if any at all...He's not perfect by any means, but he's not the reason for the lockout. He wasn't the one handing out ridiculous deals merely hours before a lockout then crying poor. To suggest otherwise is to show how un educated you are when it comes to this subject..

    Also, blaming an owner for wanting to make money is like blaming a player for wanting to win...Pretty sure both, want to do both, but att he end of the day, if both had to pick one, I'm guessing the money is more of a priority.

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from Not-A-Shot. Show Not-A-Shot's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to jacobspleasesell's comment:

    Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade




    Well, that's entire untrue.

    18 is not "just over" 10.

    If you are going to spin facts, they have to be semi-close.

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from 50belowzero. Show 50belowzero's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to jacobspleasesell's comment:

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     



    When the NHL expanded to most of the southern markets i believe Bruce McNall was the head of the BOG and he fully endorsed it to make the NHL a truly North american league. He was on an interview with Bob McCown and also told him that it was he and not Bettman that was the biggest supporter of southern expansion and had the support of the board to ok it. Bettman as has been said before just followed orders.McNall was chairman of the NHL BOG from 92-94. 

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from Chowdahkid-. Show Chowdahkid-'s posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to jacobspleasesell's comment:

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     



    Your "Jurassic Park" opinions are much appreciated. 

     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from NeelyOrrBourque. Show NeelyOrrBourque's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to jacobspleasesell's comment:

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     



    Are you a movie director? You have an awesome script for a huge hit at the "bomboffice"

    I will say this..You have the most educated spewed garbage that's for sure. 

     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from islamorada. Show islamorada's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to jacobspleasesell's comment:

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     



    Time to bring up the stats once again.  Revised from 2010.  

     

    In the 37 years previous to the 2011 Boston Bruins Cup, four teams had won the Cup 20 times all together (Montreal 7, NYI 4, Edmonton 5, and Detriot 4).  If you add two more (Pittsburgh 3 and NJD 3) then the total is 26. With the addition two more teams (Colorado 2 and Philly 2) then the Cup has been won by a total of 30 times by 9 teams.   The Boston Bruins have been in the Stanley Cup finals 5 times in those years.  Given the fact most of those times the league consisted of less than 30 teams, the Boston Bruins did not do poorly until the 1990s.  One is correct in saying Jacobs did not spend in the 90s, no one will argue with you here.  Yet, since the 2004 lock out Jacobs has been spending to the cap. That is fact.  Then if you consider no one team has has had consecutive Stanley Cup victories (7 different teams) since 2005 then the Bs management has been due diligent in building the team that has a legitmate chance to win once again.  JJ is not a bad owner.  Warren Buffet or Joshua Bekenstein (Bain Capital) would not have done different.

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from NeelyOrrBourque. Show NeelyOrrBourque's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to islamorada's comment:

    In response to jacobspleasesell's comment:

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     



    Time to bring up the stats once again.  Revised from 2010.  

     

    In the 37 years previous to the 2011 Boston Bruins Cup, four teams had won the Cup 20 times all together (Montreal 7, NYI 4, Edmonton 5, and Detriot 4).  If you add two more (Pittsburgh 3 and NJD 3) then the total is 26. With the addition two more teams (Colorado 2 and Philly 2) then the Cup has been won by a total of 30 times by 9 teams.   The Boston Bruins have been in the Stanley Cup finals 5 times in those years.  Given the fact most of those times the league consisted of less than 30 teams, the Boston Bruins did not do poorly until the 1990s.  One is correct in saying Jacobs did not spend in the 90s, no one will argue with you here.  Yet, since the 2004 lock out Jacobs has been spending to the cap. That is fact.  Then if you consider no one team has has had consecutive Stanley Cup victories (7 different teams) since 2005 then the Bs management has been due diligent in building the team that has a legitmate chance to win once again.  JJ is not a bad owner.  Warren Buffet or Joshua Bekenstein (Bain Capital) would not have done different.

     



    Nice Post Is! 

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from SanDogBrewin. Show SanDogBrewin's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to NeelyOrrBourque's comment:

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    He was probably reaching for some of the money that he has from when the team he owns won the Cup two years ago.


    What a great owner!



    Nice Post Is!


    ^+1!

 
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from BadHabitude. Show BadHabitude's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

     


    My life is exactly the same right now, even thought they missed half a season in 1994, and the whole '04-05 season.  In fact, my life is exactly the same after this lockout also.

     

    Come to think of it, my life is the same whether the NHL exists or not.  If you don't feel the same, you have issues.




    NAS, you might disagree with him, but be fair.

    Your life - the life of any fan - IS different if the NHL exists or not.  It's effected because the few hours you spend watching a game on tv you could be doing something else, like your homework or feeding poor people or something else.  And when you buy a Bruins ticket you might die in a car crash on the way to the game - or home from the game.

    I think we'd all like to think our lives would be no different with or without the NHL, but all fans have to admit their lives are effected.

    You have over 10k posts, if the NHL didn't exist - what would you have done with the time?  At one minute per post that's 166 hours and that's conservative.  That a full week of your life.

    In my book life is time, time is all we have during our lives for sure.  Something that takes up a lot of time does have an impact on your life.

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from Not-A-Shot. Show Not-A-Shot's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    Okay, BHab.  My life is not worse/ruined/harmed/destroyed/worthless if there is no NHL.

     

    It's 100% fine.

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from red75. Show red75's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    Jacobs track record is pretty much in the middle, if you're going just by championships. It's above average in terms of financial success. If you look at since he took over for the 75-76 season, at the time there were 18 teams in the NHL. Of those 18 teams, since 75-76 four have folded (Atlanta, North Stars, Kansas City, Golden Seals), 6 have not won the Cup (Philly, Washington, Toronto, Vancouver, Buffalo, St. Louis), 4 have won the Cup one time (NYR, Chicago, Boston, and LA) and 4 have won multiple Cups (Pittsburgh, NYI, Montreal, Detroit). Of the teams that were in the league when Jacobs joined, his franchise is easily among the most financially successful, has more championships than ten of the teams in the league at the time, and only has less Cups han four. The Jacobs hate doesn't stand up to the numbers.

    If you want to talk about ownership futility in terms of championships? Start by talking about the Rangers.

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from Fletcher1. Show Fletcher1's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    There is plenty of valid criticism of Jabobs and I have never been very fond of him on the whole.  But refusing to give any credit for the 2011 championship is just silly.  The ownership team hired the right GM, approved some key big signings/contracts, spent to the cap ceiling, and supported some aggressive FA deals.  And it worked.  

    To say Jacobs had nothing to do with it is totally hypocritical if you're mad about him not spending money in the past.  Either spending money on players matters or it doesn't.  If you complained about Jacobs not spending money a decade ago, you've got to appreciate the Bruins spending to the cap now (while many teams chose not to).

    If all you care about is the Bruins winning games, you got a pretty good owner right now, whether he resembles Monty Burns or not.

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from NeelyOrrBourque. Show NeelyOrrBourque's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to Fletcher1's comment:

     



    Yep, one cup in 36 years. That's some awesome track record. Meanwhile he spearheaded 3 work stoppages in just over a decade because the league that he helped overexpand found itself in financial trouble. Maybe if he hadn't gone after all that expansion money over the years the league would have been healthier. And it took losing an entire season for him to finally start spending like a grownup, mostly because the salary cap was his brainchild so he couldn't very well NOT spend to it. 2011 was in spite of ownership, not because of it. Yeah, he's a successful businessman, meaning he has deep pockets. Problem is his T-Rex arms. What a great owner.

     



    There is plenty of valid criticism of Jabobs and I have never been very fond of him on the whole.  But refusing to give any credit for the 2011 championship is just silly.  The ownership team hired the right GM, approved some key big signings/contracts, spent to the cap ceiling, and supported some aggressive FA deals.  And it worked.  

    To say Jacobs had nothing to do with it is totally hypocritical if you're mad about him not spending money in the past.  Either spending money on players matters or it doesn't.  If you complained about Jacobs not spending money a decade ago, you've got to appreciate the Bruins spending to the cap now (while many teams chose not to).

    If all you care about is the Bruins winning games, you got a pretty good owner right now, whether he resembles Monty Burns or not.



  • I used to hate when the guy just wouldn't pay Bourque what he was worth. I also think that if Andy Moog would've played half as good as Ranford did in 1990. The B's would have 7 cups instead of 6. Moog wanted to beat the Oilers so bad, that he just couldn't find his rhythm. 1988? NOBODY was beating the Oiler's!!

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from red75. Show red75's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    And if Cherry knew how to count to 6, we'd have 8. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from NeelyOrrBourque. Show NeelyOrrBourque's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to red75's comment:

    And if Cherry knew how to count to 6, we'd have 8. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.



    Now, why you being like that??? Cherry's mistake was in the semi's. And that series most likely wouldn't have went to 7 games had Cherry not put in Gilbert. Those first 2 games in Montreal was the worse I've ever seen Cheevers play. 

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from jpBsSoxFan. Show jpBsSoxFan's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to NeelyOrrBourque's comment:

    In response to red75's comment:

    And if Cherry knew how to count to 6, we'd have 8. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.



    Now, why you being like that??? Cherry's mistake was in the semi's. And that series most likely wouldn't have went to 7 games had Cherry not put in Gilbert. Those first 2 games in Montreal was the worse I've ever seen Cheevers play. 

       True, it was in the semi - finals, but we all know it was a forgone conclusion that the winner of the Bruins- Habs series would steamroll the Rangers in the finals. Poor Cherry will never live that one down.


     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from kelvana33. Show kelvana33's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to red75's comment:

    And if Cherry knew how to count to 6, we'd have 8. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.




    Glen Wesley not missing a wide open net might changed a few things,,

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from red75. Show red75's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

    In response to kelvana33's comment:

    In response to red75's comment:

    And if Cherry knew how to count to 6, we'd have 8. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.




    Glen Wesley not missing a wide open net might changed a few things,,




    Or playing in a building with a functional electrical system...

     
  • This post has been removed.

     
  • You have chosen to ignore posts from jacobspleasesell. Show jacobspleasesell's posts

    Re: It was so cold in Boston the other day...

     

    [/QUOTE]


    Well, that's entire untrue.

    18 is not "just over" 10.

    If you are going to spin facts, they have to be semi-close.

    [/QUOTE]

    You're absolutely right, I should have said just under 2 decades. 3 times as many stoppages as any other major sport, but you're right that my terminology was slightly off. That makes it so much more acceptable.

     

     
  • Sections
    Shortcuts

    Share