Jagr

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    Jagr

    I thought Jagr was our worst forward last night.  He is too slow.  He seems winded after a shift or two each period.  His hands are still so strong, his play on the puck is amazing until he eventually gets knocked off of it.  I feel like he should be planted on the bench with Thornton playing a specific role on man-up situations or as a fill in with the top 6 for a change of pace.


    Am I wrong about his play?

    I know Julien doesn't use specialists in this manner, but i think we have a particularly commodity which we traded for, and which has great calue in these limited offensive roles.  I believe 12-14 mins a game from 68 will be more productive minutes.  I would distribute those extra shifts to Paille/Campbell currently playing 10-12 mins per.

     
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    He is very slow... but I thought he brought a little bit of a spark to Marchand on that second line.  Also I think he will be better against a slower rangers team.

     
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    Age has caught up to Jagr. In his present form, I'll take him over Peverley or Kelly.

     
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    I thought Jagr was our worst forward last night.  He is too slow.  He seems winded after a shift or two each period.  His hands are still so strong, his play on the puck is amazing until he eventually gets knocked off of it.  I feel like he should be planted on the bench with Thornton playing a specific role on man-up situations or as a fill in with the top 6 for a change of pace.


    Am I wrong about his play?

    I know Julien doesn't use specialists in this manner, but i think we have a particularly commodity which we traded for, and which has great calue in these limited offensive roles.  I believe 12-14 mins a game from 68 will be more productive minutes.  I would distribute those extra shifts to Paille/Campbell currently playing 10-12 mins per.



    Your not allowed to criticize on hear stop it.Barney will be all over you.

     
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    I do think Marchand was fnally moving full speed.  I hadn't really given credit to Jagr as much as the Game 7 atmosphere, but that is a fair point, and something he may be able to do as a specialist replacing a guy here or there for favorable matchups or to spark a line.

     
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    I thought like the rest of the team he had a rough first 2 and a half periods. He made some nice plays the end though to keep the puck in the zone.

    Just won a playoff round without goals from Seguin,Marchand and Jagr. They'll start scoring.

     
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    I agree, maybe don't put him on as much in defensive zone faceoffs, play him against slower lines, on the pp, etc.  That would mean that he would have to bounce from line to line which I think is good but don't think Juliene is much open to that.

    Oops did I criticize?  I didn't mean it.  Hate to go on that "bad fans" list again :)

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    I do think Marchand was fnally moving full speed.  I hadn't really given credit to Jagr as much as the Game 7 atmosphere, but that is a fair point, and something he may be able to do as a specialist replacing a guy here or there for favorable matchups or to spark a line.




     
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    Your not allowed to criticize on hear stop it.Barney will be all over you.

     



    Why don't you just eat your crow like man kitchener, instead of continuing to whine and deflect?  Everyone criticizes the team, but you and a few others flat out bailed, wet your pants, and surrendered half way through the biggest game of the season.  You wimped out because you were afraid of losing.  Own it.  Move on.

    I'm not asking you to leave or apologize, but you guys could acknowledge how pathetic you look right now, instead of pretending you weren't exposed as a reactionary twit last night.

    Jagr still makes the right plays most times, even if he isn't moving fast.  He holds the puck sometimes when he needs to.  He's a little bit like Krejci -- slowing things down for a purpose, not just because he's slow.  I think he will continue to be an asset against NYR.

     
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    Peverly looks like the guy to me that is still fighting it in a big way.  I can't beleive how different he looks than during the 2011 run.  He still has the speed, so I can't place what the problem is.  Wondering if Soda would be just as good of an option.

     
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    I think the problem is that Jagr is light years ahead of Kelly and Peverley in skill and sense.  He doesn't pass because those two don't get open.  Notice how often he has the puck, however?  The guy is still incredible, but unless the B's upgrade the other two spots on that line (or make room on 1 or 2...which is unlikely) I don't think Jagr sticks around after this year.

    He could be a stopgap if they can't or don't want to get Horton re-signed.

     
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    Oops did I criticize?  I didn't mean it.  Hate to go on that "bad fans" list again :)



    After the trash you've been posting, you'll never be off that list.

    No redemption.

     

     
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    Stop stalking me NAS.  I don't like you breathing down my neck every where I post.  Are you one of those internet stalkers?

     
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    Your not allowed to criticize on hear stop it.Barney will be all over you.

     

     



    Why don't you just eat your crow like man kitchener, instead of continuing to whine and deflect?  Everyone criticizes the team, but you and a few others flat out bailed, wet your pants, and surrendered half way through the biggest game of the season.  You wimped out because you were afraid of losing.  Own it.  Move on.

     

    I'm not asking you to leave or apologize, but you guys could acknowledge how pathetic you look right now, instead of pretending you weren't exposed as a reactionary twit last night.

    Jagr still makes the right plays most times, even if he isn't moving fast.  He holds the puck sometimes when he needs to.  He's a little bit like Krejci -- slowing things down for a purpose, not just because he's slow.  I think he will continue to be an asset against NYR.



    Of course i was afraid of losing ,i hate to lose,and i never bailed the ones who bailed are ones that went to bed,i was watching to the end even if it stayed 4-1 would have stuck arround for hand shakes,well plus maybee Lucic would have layed a beaten on some one,and as much as i complain about them i would be right back in front of the TV in Oct. or maybee at the Gardens.

     
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    Stop stalking me NAS.  I don't like you breathing down my neck every where I post.  Are you one of those internet stalkers?



    Are you gonna root for the Bruins against the Rangers, or are you gonna bail out as soon as they lose a game?  I'm serious, by the way.  I'm wondering if the crow served last night will make the cryers here a little less reactionary or not.  I would think it would.

     
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    I think the problem is that Jagr is light years ahead of Kelly and Peverley in skill and sense.  He doesn't pass because those two don't get open.  Notice how often he has the puck, however?  The guy is still incredible, but unless the B's upgrade the other two spots on that line (or make room on 1 or 2...which is unlikely) I don't think Jagr sticks around after this year.

    He could be a stopgap if they can't or don't want to get Horton re-signed.



    PERFECT!! He's better when he has talent to work with. He wasn't hanging onto the puck as long as he had been last night. Marchand had a lot more jump as well. 

     
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    Jagr still makes the right plays most times, even if he isn't moving fast.  He holds the puck sometimes when he needs to.  He's a little bit like Krejci -- slowing things down for a purpose, not just because he's slow.  I think he will continue to be an asset against NYR.

    I think he is an asset when he is fresh.  When he is fresh he comes out of scrums and takes mean shots.  I think he needs more then normal rest to stay fresh.  It seems as the period goes on he is not fresh; he battles valiantly but inevitably loses the battle.


    I think he will be an asset against the NYR if they modify his usage.  I think he will be a liability as a full time player. 

     
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    I think the problem is that Jagr is light years ahead of Kelly and Peverley in skill and sense.  He doesn't pass because those two don't get open.  Notice how often he has the puck, however?  The guy is still incredible, but unless the B's upgrade the other two spots on that line (or make room on 1 or 2...which is unlikely) I don't think Jagr sticks around after this year.

    He could be a stopgap if they can't or don't want to get Horton re-signed.



    He is light years ahead of them in skill and sense in the offensive zone.  He seems to be a liability in the d-zone and I would not say that of Kelly and Peverley.

    I wanted to keep Jagr, but I agree it would be a waste unless you brought in the right type of players to complement him on a third line.  At this point I would not be pleased with him replacing Horton next year.

     
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    Jagr still makes the right plays most times, even if he isn't moving fast.  He holds the puck sometimes when he needs to.  He's a little bit like Krejci -- slowing things down for a purpose, not just because he's slow.  I think he will continue to be an asset against NYR.

     

     

    I think he is an asset when he is fresh.  When he is fresh he comes out of scrums and takes mean shots.  I think he needs more then normal rest to stay fresh.  It seems as the period goes on he is not fresh; he battles valiantly but inevitably loses the battle.


    I think he will be an asset against the NYR if they modify his usage.  I think he will be a liability as a full time player. 



    I agree with your take Ricky. It also worked with Recchi at the end. Limit his minutes a little bit and get more out of it. Quality over quantity shifts.

     
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    While you and your sisters (Nas & Kel) hold hands and sing kumbaya I'm gonna watch every minute and cheer and boo with every breath I take.  There will be vulger words and there better not be children listening.  Got it?

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    Stop stalking me NAS.  I don't like you breathing down my neck every where I post.  Are you one of those internet stalkers?

     



    Are you gonna root for the Bruins against the Rangers, or are you gonna bail out as soon as they lose a game?  I'm serious, by the way.  I'm wondering if the crow served last night will make the cryers here a little less reactionary or not.  I would think it would.

     




     
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    Peverly looks like the guy to me that is still fighting it in a big way.  I can't beleive how different he looks than during the 2011 run.  He still has the speed, so I can't place what the problem is.  Wondering if Soda would be just as good of an option.



    At this point I have Daugavins ahead of Soderberg.  The evidence I have might be worthless in given knowledge of how they have been playing at practice.  I like the idea of Soderberg but I think the idea might actually be about a swedish unicorn.

     
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    playing monday morning QB  would you take Jokinen for a 6th or Jagr for a conditional 1-2? I think its a better question then most people think. I myself would lean towards Jokinen on LW with Kelly-Peverly. Jagr is a tough fit with his game,theres not a straight fast line in his game. He has as Julien said last night a unique way. Jokinen on LW playing a up & down fast pressure game with alittle edge suits the B,s & there 3rd line alot better.It is water under the bridge, but just something to ponder.

     
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    While you and your sisters (Nas & Kel) hold hands and sing kumbaya I'm gonna watch every minute and cheer and boo with every breath I take.  There will be vulger words and there better not be children listening.  Got it?

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    Stop stalking me NAS.  I don't like you breathing down my neck every where I post.  Are you one of those internet stalkers?

     



    Are you gonna root for the Bruins against the Rangers, or are you gonna bail out as soon as they lose a game?  I'm serious, by the way.  I'm wondering if the crow served last night will make the cryers here a little less reactionary or not.  I would think it would.

     

     

    While you and your sisters (Nas & Kel) hold hands and sing kumbaya I'm gonna watch every minute and cheer and boo with every breath I take.  There will be vulger words and there better not be children listening.  Got it?


    Not stalking you man but i love you.LOL




     
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    I love you to Kitchener... oxoxox lol

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    While you and your sisters (Nas & Kel) hold hands and sing kumbaya I'm gonna watch every minute and cheer and boo with every breath I take.  There will be vulger words and there better not be children listening.  Got it?

    In response to Fletcher1's comment:

     

    In response to mattbs' comment:

     

    Stop stalking me NAS.  I don't like you breathing down my neck every where I post.  Are you one of those internet stalkers?

     



    Are you gonna root for the Bruins against the Rangers, or are you gonna bail out as soon as they lose a game?  I'm serious, by the way.  I'm wondering if the crow served last night will make the cryers here a little less reactionary or not.  I would think it would.

     

     

    While you and your sisters (Nas & Kel) hold hands and sing kumbaya I'm gonna watch every minute and cheer and boo with every breath I take.  There will be vulger words and there better not be children listening.  Got it?


    Not stalking you man but i love you.LOL

     




     




     
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    no, no and no. Jagr's issues are not lack of talent around him. He needs to simplify his game and stop expecting the perfect play. Mario isn't walking through that door, so make the quick pass, rotate to the front of the net and cause chaos. The very best NHL players don't get open in playoff games the way they used to.

    remember Marchand in 2011. Same puck possession game as Jagr, with much quicker decisions.

     
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    While you and your sisters (Nas & Kel) hold hands and sing kumbaya I'm gonna watch every minute and cheer and boo with every breath I take.  There will be vulger words and there better not be children listening.  Got it?

     

    Got what?

    I know it's been an embarassing 24 hours for you, but don't try the tough guy routine.  We've seen enough not to buy any of that from you.

    Go Bruins.  Hope you're on board.

     

     

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