Kovalev Hangs up the Skates

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    Kovalev Hangs up the Skates

    Kovalev has decided that it is finally time to retire:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=418798

     

    If I could sum up his career it would be one of wasted talent. Few had the skills he did but he just did not put out on a consistent basis.

     
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    Disgusting moves, incredible strength, awesome skater, all-world talent. Why it never translated into more success is anyones guess.

     
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    Yep, he reminded me of the 80's Petr Klima (albeit, with more talent). Klima would deke through a whole team and put it top shelf.....once every 10 games that is.

     
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    Hes loaded and has a cup ring and was a major contributor during that run..  If he had a heart he likely goes down as one of the best ever.  

     
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    430 goals, 599 assists, #70 overall in points.

    No shoulda or woulda or coulda.  Superstar.

     

     
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    Re: Kovalev Hangs up the Skates

    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

     

    430 goals, 599 assists, #70 overall in points.

    No shoulda or woulda or coulda.  Superstar.

     

     




    Star, anyway. It's tough to be too overly critical of a player who lasted 19 years, is 50th all-time in games played and 70th in points. Anyone who can crack the top 100 in those categories has had a heck of a career. Maybe he wasn't as hard a worker as some players, but obviously he worked harder than tonnes of other players that have come down the pipe - you don't have those numbers or longevity ONLY on talent.

     

     
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    Over 1300 games and just over 1000 points is hardly superstar status. Had he thrown in a few more seasons like he had from time to time then maybe. The guy just seemed to be disinterested for long stretches. He sort of looked like a guy playing shinny who is the best player on the ice but because it's shinny he doesn't want to show off. He'll do something spectacular once in a while but cruises around like it's public skating most of the time.

    Very good player overall, exceptional at times but also underperformed too often to be great even though he clearly had plenty of talent and the skills to be great.

     
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    The guy is 70th overall in the history of the NHL scoring, but he's not a superstar because you didn't like the way he played.

     
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    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    The guy is 70th overall in the history of the NHL scoring, but he's not a superstar because you didn't like the way he played.



    Lots of people don't like the way he played.

    It is a valid point, he did take quite a few nights off.

     
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    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    The guy is 70th overall in the history of the NHL scoring, but he's not a superstar because you didn't like the way he played.




    I loved the way he played. About every other season or so or every 4th night otherwise. Well under a point per game for his career, never elevated it in the playoffs. IMO he was a superstar for a few of his seasons but definitely not for his career. 70th in scoring with 19 or 20 seasons to get there? Sorry, I can't label him a superstar. he missed it by THIS much!

     
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    easily one of the most talented players to ever play, he had it all, size, speed, hands, shot.. you name it, it was awesome to watch the penguin powerplay when he was there with Mario and co.

     
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    Re: Kovalev Hangs up the Skates

    In response to BadHabitude's comment:

    The guy is 70th overall in the history of the NHL scoring, but he's not a superstar because you didn't like the way he played.

    Lots of people don't like the way he played.

    It is a valid point, he did take quite a few nights off.



    I'm sure allot of fans didn't like the way Bucyk or Lindsay played but for a time they were considered at the top. I didn't like allot of the whining n crying Mario did but he was the best player I ever saw.

     
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    67th all time in goals

    76th all time in assists

    70th all time in points

    50th all time in games played

    Taking 19 seasons to get there isn't a black mark.  Playing 19 seasons and 1,301 games is a feat in itself.

    "He should have had more points" and/or "He should have been more dominant" doesn't take away from his accomplishments.

     

     
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    Always reminded me of a player with the same number, the big M, had so much talent but not the work ethic of his younger brother Pete.

    That's Frank Mahovlich for the youngsters, too bad he played also with the stinking shabs.

     
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    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    67th all time in goals

    76th all time in assists

    70th all time in points

    50th all time in games played

    Taking 19 seasons to get there isn't a black mark.  Playing 19 seasons and 1,301 games is a feat in itself.

    "He should have had more points" and/or "He should have been more dominant" doesn't take away from his accomplishments.

     



    NAS, I agree with all of that. I just don't think it equates to "superstar" .

    Cheers

     
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    Re: Kovalev Hangs up the Skates

    Stats can say a lot and can be debated back and forth. All I know is that when he was on the ice vs Bruins -- he scared the hell out of me 100% of the time.

     
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    For a guy with all world talent, all world skills, he sure was frustrating to watch, which seems odd when you think about it.

     
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    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

    67th all time in goals

    76th all time in assists

    70th all time in points

    50th all time in games played

    Taking 19 seasons to get there isn't a black mark.  Playing 19 seasons and 1,301 games is a feat in itself.

    "He should have had more points" and/or "He should have been more dominant" doesn't take away from his accomplishments.

     




    Totally agree with his accomplishemnts, and someone who never saw him play may look at those 20 years from now and think he must have been a really good player. They'd be correct. But I look at those numbers and wonder what they would be like if he, and i hate this term, played with a higher compete level on a more regualar basis. i think the fact that he accmplished all those numbers says how talented he was.

    Superstar numbers, all-world talent. no queston about it. He'd dominate a game one day and then you'd have to check him for a pulse the next one. Imagine what those numbers would be if he ever had that drive. I agree with Shupe, could have been one of the best ever. Those numbers as good as they are, should have been alot better.

     
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    Re: Kovalev Hangs up the Skates

    http://youtu.be/XQQyanpFnPQ

    Some of his best goals.  Some serious skills on display.

     
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