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    Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 10:41 AM EDT


    Man, you just can't make this stuff up:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=392731

    I wonder if their apology comes with a refund?
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 11:27 AM EDT



    I think a poster from here wrote that letter.  Who does it sound like?

    We are vewy vewy sowwy we dint make the pwayoffs.  We won't do it again.  We pwomise.

    Come to think of it, probably Phil Kessel.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 12:04 PM EDT

    The Leafs management (not the players) should be apologizing for trying to build a winner by trading away draft picks.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 12:14 PM EDT

    No apologizing unless the effort wasn't there. I think it's absurd.

     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 12:26 PM EDT



    OK. Who remembers?  When the Flyers came back from 3 games down in the playoffs a couple of years ago, I recall that KPD demanded a letter of apology.

    And I forget what the sentiment was around here.  I think I weighed in, but I can't remember which side of the fence I came down on.

    One thing for sure, that apology is tricky business.  you could just be fanning the flames of some fan's fires depending on the wording and what you say.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 12:33 PM EDT

    I confess I do not remember that BadHab but I don't doubt it. The only thing I can see an apology for at that time was using Whitfield for the last 4 games of that series. Was the B's depth really that thin back then?
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 1:12 PM EDT

    I think I had a C in English once. Let me give it a try.

    Dear Maple Leafs Fans:

    We sucked again. We're a joke. You know it and so do we, but after seven consecutive DNQs, you should've known better. Hahaha, the joke's on you. Keep buying the $8 popcorn and $25 parking spots, losers. We love you chumps.


    Sincerely,
    B. Burke.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 1:18 PM EDT

    Who can take anything Burke says seriously anymore? Spewing the same crap for 4 years and no results.

    Since the Leafs last made it to the finals only Columbus, the Wild, Jets, Coyotes, Predators and Sharks haven't made at least one appearance in the Finals. Talk about futility. Tha Panthers have been more successful for gawd's sake.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 1:43 PM EDT

    I thought Burke was looking more and more like Glen Grunwald.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 1:49 PM EDT

    I think it's a dumb idea.  To agologize is to admit that you didn't do something you should have -- try hard enough? play hard? play smart? what? 

    If they gave 100% but just weren't good enough, then there is no reason to apologize.  Doing so is almost an admission of guilt.

    While I think that Kessel and Phaneuf don't play all that hard or care all that much about winning, Burke should be the only one apologizing to the fans.  He's the one who's never decided if he's rebuilding or going for the Cup, and he's assembled a team that any hockey fan can tell won't win.  The money they've spent on mediocrity is insane.  More bad contracts than any team in the league (maybe tied with Montreal).  High priced forwards who can't score, defensmen who can't skate, totally unreliable goalies, and seemingly indifferent star players.

    I would never expect that roster to make the playoffs, so how much can you really blame the players?  Or the coach?  You can make chicken salad with chicken...
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 3:35 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans:
    Who can take anything Burke says seriously anymore? Spewing the same crap for 4 years and no results. Since the Leafs last made it to the finals only Columbus, the Wild, Jets, Coyotes, Predators and Sharks haven't made at least one appearance in the Finals. Talk about futility. Tha Panthers have been more successful for gawd's sake.
    Posted by red75


    Speaking of Burke Red, here is his post-season media address. You probably already read it:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=392736

    He mentions size and goaltending as his greatest priorities. Same as last year, and the year before that, etc.

    some things never change.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 3:36 PM EDT

    jmwalters, the Letter is from the desk of the President, Larry Tannenbaum, and signed by him.

    The Leaf players probably couldn't write a letter if they tried.
     

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    Re: Leaf President Writes Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 3:38 PM EDT

    Wheatskins, my mistake. I will change the headline.


    Edit: Damn, I guess I can't.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 6:26 PM EDT

    Perhaps for the sake of their fans the word "refund" should be included in that letter of apology from MLSE president Tannenbaum.  How about "money back guarantee" also?

     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 11:00 PM EDT

    Sorry I don't care about winning and have no heart, but keep on coming to games so I can bank my big paycheck and buy lots of pudding for me and my dog.

    Sincerly, Phill Kessel.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/10/2012 11:03 PM EDT

    Do the Leafs allow fried chicken and beer in the lockerroom?
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/11/2012 6:56 AM EDT

    On Behalf of all Leaf Fans:

    I apologize for being a Leaf fan.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/11/2012 8:31 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans:
    On Behalf of all Leaf Fans: I apologize for being a Leaf fan.
    Posted by LoveRealHockey


    On behalf of all Leaf fans:

    I apologize for living amongst you and being a Bruins fan who enjoyed watching his team win the Stanley cup.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/11/2012 11:03 AM EDT

    Well, the draft lottery didn't help them out and they are still picking 5th so it will be interesting to see what Burke does here.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/11/2012 11:24 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans:
    Well, the draft lottery didn't help them out and they are still picking 5th so it will be interesting to see what Burke does here.
    Posted by jmwalters

    The blowhard couldn't resist bragging that they've got the most 1st round picks in reply to questions of whether he overpaid to get Kessel. Maybe Burke still hasn't got a good feel for what Canadians are like but I can guarantee he'd be better received if he just admitted that he made a mistake when judging the Leafs ability to compete. I mean, if the Leafs finish just 4 spots higher each year and we're probably not having this discussion. Instead though, his ego can't allow him to admit he's ever made a mistake. Many folks are now happy to see him fail, simply because he's a jerk. That's the camp I'm in anyway.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/11/2012 11:33 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans:
    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans : The blowhard couldn't resist bragging that they've got the most 1st round picks in reply to questions of whether he overpaid to get Kessel. Maybe Burke still hasn't got a good feel for what Canadians are like but I can guarantee he'd be better received if he just admitted that he made a mistake when judging the Leafs ability to compete. I mean, if the Leafs finish just 4 spots higher each year and we're probably not having this discussion. Instead though, his ego can't allow him to admit he's ever made a mistake. Many folks are now happy to see him fail, simply because he's a jerk. That's the camp I'm in anyway.
    Posted by dezaruchi


    Yep. Very true. He has a severe problem now. A team that obviously can't compete and now a damaged public image. Nor can he really go into an intense "rebuild through the draft" cycle as it is already, what, 5 years into his reign? Plus his cap problems and a bunch of junk players that would be hard to unload. I think he trades the #5 pick for another proven player. The draft can't save him now.

    By the way, think of how interesting the team may have been had they decided to build through the draft instead of going full steam ahead with Kessel et. al.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/11/2012 1:20 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans:
    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans : Yep. Very true. He has a severe problem now. A team that obviously can't compete and now a damaged public image. Nor can he really go into an intense "rebuild through the draft" cycle as it is already, what, 5 years into his reign? Plus his cap problems and a bunch of junk players that would be hard to unload. I think he trades the #5 pick for another proven player. The draft can't save him now. By the way, think of how interesting the team may have been had they decided to build through the draft instead of going full steam ahead with Kessel et. al.
    Posted by jmwalters

    The snag there is that it would've taken patience and a willingness to start over. Neither Burke nor the Leafs faithful were capable of pulling that off.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/11/2012 8:45 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans:
    In Response to Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans : The snag there is that it would've taken patience and a willingness to start over. Neither Burke nor the Leafs faithful were capable of pulling that off.
    Posted by dezaruchi


    That's right Dez. And they still aren't. There are voices already to trade the pick they have for some kind of package for Nash. Dumb.
     

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    Re: Leaf Players Write Apology Letter to Fans

    posted at 4/11/2012 9:02 PM EDT

    I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a place other than Toronto with the Leafs where the lead-hand was not let go after years of mediocrity.  Burke put this team together although in the quote below it sounds like Burke deferred to coach Wilson regarding the roster.

    “The one place where Ron Wilson and I were not on the same page was that central issue, is how we play the game, what type of player. I like to dictate how to play. I don’t like to have it dictated to me. … When we got the team in place and it did win, everything was fine. No one was screaming for the coach’s head in January or February. It took a rapid turn and we made the change. You react to what happens.”  So who was running the show?