Leafs send Versteeg to Philly

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    Toronto is not done trading yet, but it is easy to see they are gearing up for the future by restocking their draft.  Burke is quick to say the Leafs are not conceding the final playoff spot but it is hard to see them making any sort of push.  B's should end up with a top 5 pick and no worse than 8.

     
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    I am referring to his overpaying for Ference, Ryder and expecting Horton to be a 30 goal scorer here. You could argue paying Thomas and not maximizing an asset like a Rask by either making him the starter or trading him. These are small little examples that have an effect that we see now.  It all counts. It all matters in a cap league. Maybe we are on a different level of thought here, but this team is not winning a Cup in its current state. I'd be happy to place a wager with you on that, if you'd like. Why do some fans act like Chiarelli can't be challenged or has some sort of resume of success elsewhere?
    Posted by BBReigns


    pc winning the horton trade was a collossal mistake? getting the soon to be 2-time vezina winner to sign for a 5-mil cap hit was a collossal mistake? making rask the starter when tt is having the best season statistically in the modern era was a collossal mistake? not trading rask when we don't have any other goalie prospect was a collossal mistake? ryder was overpaid by 1.5-2 mil, ference was overpaid by 750k. not sure i'd call those 2 collossal mistakes either.
     
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    In Response to Re: Leafs send Versteeg to Philly : Wideman's +/- was +32 against Toronto in 2009? Wow.
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    what the f are you talking about?
     
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    In Response to Re: Leafs send Versteeg to Philly : In theory, everything's worth is determined by what someone will pay for it.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    Of course, but I think Philly overpaid for Versteeg.  I don't think he changes them much at all and he makes it more difficult for them to acquire a goalie.  They already have pretty good talent on the third line.  We got a good look at Versteeg in Toronto when he wasn't surrounded by really good players like in Chicago, and he didn't look good at all.  It isn't that Versteeg is a bad player (he's better than Bochenski!), it's that he doesn't seem to make a difference on the Flyers roster, IMO.


    It seems like for the past 20 years the Flyers have put a very good team together almost every year, and they never have a good enough goalie to go all the way...let's hope the trend continues.



     
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    Re: Leafs send Versteeg to Philly

    bbr, the -13, i was replying to another post that somebody said versteeg was only -13. being -13 on the leafs isn't that bad. the overall team has an impact on your personnal +/-. i used wideman as an example being +32 in 09 because the b's were dominating the league. last year wideman was a minus player as the b's weren't as good as the previous year.

    the other post i was referring to pc's "colossal mistakes". i don't think pc has made any collossal mistakes. compare this team to the pre-pc team. the b's are in a very good position. except for tt and chara, the b's are a very young team with a very bright future. i think seguin will be a star, another top 5 pick from the leafs this year. the emergance of lucic, marchand. bergeron finding his offensive touch again.

    i agree ference and ryder might be overpaid, but not by enough to be classified as collossal mistakes. if ryder was paid 2-2.5 mil that wouldn't be too bad for a 25 goal man. i think ference would be worth every penny if he was paid 1.5 mil. that's how i figured out by how much ference and ryder are overpaid.
     
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