Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

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    Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 7:36 AM EST

    Different than the "deserves" question, predict what he will get.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 9:15 AM EST

    He'll just get a fine and no games.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 9:30 AM EST

    He will get one because they are playing the Habs !!
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 9:45 AM EST

    Although I am against a suspension.  I think the fact he met about Miller combined with his history of a suspension and running Spacek last yr means he gets a couple games. 
    I don't think it will be deserved but when you play on edge this thing is bound to happen.  He just needs to be a little smarter.  Both of these he could have avoided. 


    I said 2 games.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 9:52 AM EST

    This is a tough call. Rhinaldo got up immediately and started a fight.  Then he got a 10 minute misconduct for unsportsman like conduct in the beginning of the 3rd.  I have to wonder if that will play in the decision.  I also think the Miller incident will play into the decision.  I think, in order to prevent a "scandal", Lucic will be suspended. Orignailly, I thought the check would be worth 2 games and because of the Miller incident they would tack on an additional game for a 3 game suspension.  But if Rhinaldo's ability to get up and fight and then his misconduct come into play i'd say it knocks the suspension down to one game.
    1 game.
    My hope is that he will only be fined.

     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 9:56 AM EST

    I think what happened after the Miller incident Shannahan really has no choice after letting Lucic slide on the last one.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 10:17 AM EST

    I say one. I didn't think it was that bad but he is now a repeat offender.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 10:33 AM EST

    One, as a gesture to the league. 
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 10:42 AM EST

    one or two... and not for this hit in particuliar, but because he has a "history".
    i'd be shocked if he doesn't get suspended.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 10:53 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?:
    Although I am against a suspension.  I think the fact he met about Miller combined with his history of a suspension and running Spacek last yr means he gets a couple games.  I don't think it will be deserved but when you play on edge this thing is bound to happen.  He just needs to be a little smarter.  Both of these he could have avoided.  I said 2 games.
    Posted by shuperman


    I agree..just to keep Lucic honest..the Miller incident still has warts on it if you hear the so called hockey experts in the media who felt he got away with murder basically.. so yes , I think Shanahan sends Lucic a message this time.. honestly the hit did not warrant a major and a game.. Phaneuf's hit on Kassian the night before was much worse and caused injury and he hit him in the numbers.. no suspension which was surprising..
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 11:00 AM EST

    I've been geeking out on the Shanaban suspension vids all season and as such I'm gonna say: 0.

    The reason is, Looch lines him up for a clean hit and then just prior to contact, Rinaldo shifts sharply to the right. The rule states: "in determining wheter [sic] such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered." 

    Shanahan has been pretty by the book in his application of the rules as written (even if they include a typo) and seems to take suspensions pretty seriously. I don't think he compares one hit to any other or looks for payback, so if he wants to send a message he'll fine him the requisite $2500.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 11:10 AM EST

    Just like the Miller hit, if Lucic wanted to run him, he could have put him through the glass. It was a hockey hit, not a malicious one and it wasn't even a really hard hit
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 11:11 AM EST

    Voted 2 for "will he get", even though I don't think any are deserved. Even Rinaldo doesn't think there's anything wrong with the hit:


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    “It’s hockey, you hit and go into the boards, I don’t think it was dirty at all,” Rinaldo said. “Shoulder-to-shoulder and just momentum. He’s big guy, maybe double my weight. His momentum carried him into the boards awkwardly. I don’t think it was dirty at all.”
     
    He added: “Should–to-shoulder, that’s fine, that’s cool. I don’t mind it at all.”

     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 11:31 AM EST

    ZERO
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 11:52 AM EST

    So many of you are saying he should get suspended because of a ruling already made ? 
    That does not make sense. I think since Collin Campbell is not making decisions anymore the league would not look at situations like this.
    As for repeat offender , wasn't Phaneuf one ?  His hit was much worse and he got nothing. That should set the bar.
    Lucic got a penalty in the game and that should be sufficient plus a fine. 

     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 12:30 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?:
    So many of you are saying he should get suspended because of a ruling already made ?  That does not make sense. I think since Collin Campbell is not making decisions anymore the league would not look at situations like this. As for repeat offender , wasn't Phaneuf one ?  His hit was much worse and he got nothing. That should set the bar. Lucic got a penalty in the game and that should be sufficient plus a fine. 
    Posted by BsLegion



    BsL,

    I think Lucic's was worse b/c if you watch the play Rinaldo always had his back to the play.   I may have missed it but did Rinaldo even have the puck for more than a second. 
    Also, dumb dumb Lucic planted Spacek last year.  He has a history of suspension and was just in to speak with Shanny. 
    To me he gets two games b/c of past.  But this current hit.  But its the fool me once theory. 

    I personally don't think its worth a suspension but its likely time the league told him to smarten up.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 12:35 PM EST

    Yeah, I'm with Legion on this one.  I have a bigger problem with him getting suspended because of past incidents in which he was not disciplined (so he's not a repeat offender) or to appease public opinion than if Shanahan looks at the play and says "I think that warrants a game."  All I want is that they continue to judge the action and, where the rules give them the discretion to do so, the "intent" of the action.  Please, no suspending players just to shut other people up...though I'd love to see that Shanahan video: "Although I believe Lucic did nothing wrong or beyond the realm of a 2 minute penalty, I've decided to suspend him for two games just so I don't have to listen the Shab fans whine."

    A two game suspension at Lucic's salary is roughly $100K in lost salary.  Think the union will live with "I didn't want to hear the whining" as the rationale for taking $100K from a guy?

    I don't.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 12:36 PM EST

    If Lucic didn't hit Miller this hit would not even be on the radar. Over reaction by the officials and just about everyone else.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 12:45 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?:
    So many of you are saying he should get suspended because of a ruling already made ?  That does not make sense. I think since Collin Campbell is not making decisions anymore the league would not look at situations like this. As for repeat offender , wasn't Phaneuf one ?  His hit was much worse and he got nothing. That should set the bar. Lucic got a penalty in the game and that should be sufficient plus a fine. 
    Posted by BsLegion


    Surprisingly, Phaneuf has never been suspended or fined.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=3507

    Shanahan has referenced player's past supplemental discipline as a criteria for assessing his punishment.  Might leave him an out since Lucic has been both suspended and fined in the past.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 1:04 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?:
    Voted 2 for "will he get", even though I don't think any are deserved. Even Rinaldo doesn't think there's anything wrong with the hit: -------------------- “It’s hockey, you hit and go into the boards, I don’t think it was dirty at all,” Rinaldo said. “Shoulder-to-shoulder and just momentum. He’s big guy, maybe double my weight. His momentum carried him into the boards awkwardly. I don’t think it was dirty at all.”   He added: “Should–to-shoulder, that’s fine, that’s cool. I don’t mind it at all.” http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/flyers-talk/post/Flyers-Rinaldo-says-Lucic-hit-was-clean?blockID=614782&feedID=6572
    Posted by Dave24


    Given that quote he shouldn't get suspended at all.  If the guy who took the hit considers it a hockey play than what else is there to discuss?

     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 1:04 PM EST

    Look, I really think that the B's have been getting away pretty lucky. I don't agree with the fan bases that claim that the B's are getting special treatment, but I can certainly see where they are coming from. It's understandable & I know a lot of us older fans KNOW that we all used to say that the Canadiens used to get special treatment.

    The Bruins have been skimming along the line, or they've been crossing it & not getting punishished properly. It's almost a weekly basis now where somebody on the Bruins has been doing something troubling. I think the hammer has to start falling on some suspensions here. It really doesn't look good at all. Lucic 2 games.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 1:04 PM EST

    Ryan Miller has told Shanahan that Miller won't lend him his lipstick and purse any more if Lucic doesn't get suspended this time. Rihanna Miller is very upset, and for that reason, I think Looch gets a game. Rinaldo should get his a s s beaten next time we play Philly. Rinaldo is a little bi.tch.
     

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    Re: Lucic Poll II: How many games will Lucic get for the Rinaldo hit?

    posted at 12/19/2011 1:23 PM EST

    Actually, given Rinaldo's quote above, he's not a bi.tch after all. But I still want to see Lucic pound him. That's just me.