Marchund deserved a little more in his defense from his mates...

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    http://www.csnne.com/blog/bruins-talk/julien-past-bs-teams-would-have-responded-marchand-hit

     
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    sorry i didn't post this link drew, i switched my browser from explorer to firefox to stop the pop ups and i can't seem to copy and paste anymore.  someone on the ice should have stepped up though.

     
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    I love all the arm chair quarterbacking and bravado here.  The only one who might have seen what happened was Jagr who came in for a chop as the ref stepped in.  Everyone else was confused as to what happened.  I didn't see it clearly until the replay either.  Campbell didn't see it at all and when you see a teammate act stunned like Marchand you might wonder if he was high-sticked, or what happened.  You know, instead of throwing off your equipment and jumping the nearest Devil like all the keyboard tough guys here would do.  

    I thought the Matt Cooke hit was clear as day and the Bruins had every chance to do something about it -- in that game and the next one.  They failed.

    As for Volchenkov, I don't think anyone was clear about what happened until he had already been kicked out of the game.  The best revenge is winning the game and circling the calendar for the next time they see Volchenkov.  All of the chest pounding here is a little misguided.

    Shanny might have to carry the water on this one, for now.

     
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    LOL.... post has been removed.  Thanks to whomever reported the dunce 

     



     "BS"legion.. (great name for you by the way)..  ... perfect actually.... nice job!

     




    Keep on pumping those clever, witty, original post. RadSocks!

     

     
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    From a Hagg tweet

    Talked to Andrew Ference today. He was 1 of guys on ice during Marchand head shot. Said he didn't actually see the play until this morning

     
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    From a Hagg tweet

    Talked to Andrew Ference today. He was 1 of guys on ice during Marchand head shot. Said he didn't actually see the play until this morning



    No beef with Andrew Ference on the play.  If I saw a fallen teammate, my first reaction would be to signal for the doctors, and see if I can assist in any way.

    The anger takes a bit to set in.

    My only beef was with Campbell, because when I watch the replay, it looks like he's very aloof to the situation.  However, this is forgivable.  Its not like he doesnt care about his teammate....I was just frustrated with him because instead of trying to tend to his fallen teammate or figure out what happened, he just kind of became lost.

    Watch him watch the other red shirt skate right by him, turn around slowly, and then not display any kind of compassion (through body language) when he sees Marchand on the ice.

    I dont think he doesnt care about his teammates (NAS points out that you have to consider his track record), I just think that his head was in the clouds for a second there.  Forgivable.

     
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    A.V. GOT 4 GAMES

     

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=420465

    BBB

     
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    4 game suspension for Vochenkov.Good enough.

     
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    Ference rushed over to his teammate , trying to figure out what happened.  THat was the appropriate reaction.

     
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    From a Hagg tweet

    Talked to Andrew Ference today. He was 1 of guys on ice during Marchand head shot. Said he didn't actually see the play until this morning



    I don't buy this excuse either!  Do you have to see the hit to know what happened?  The answer is no!  Jagr obviously saw it, he stepped in to Volchenkov to address the hit.  That is all Gregory, Andrew, or Johnny need to see to know what just went down!  LAME....LAME....LAME  Sorry, I give nobody on the ice a pass.

     
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    From a Hagg tweet

    Talked to Andrew Ference today. He was 1 of guys on ice during Marchand head shot. Said he didn't actually see the play until this morning

     



    I don't buy this excuse either!  Do you have to see the hit to know what happened?  The answer is no!  Jagr obviously saw it, he stepped in to Volchenkov to address the hit.  That is all Gregory, Andrew, or Johnny need to see to know what just went down!  LAME....LAME....LAME  Sorry, I give nobody on the ice a pass.

     



    Relax, so nobody laid a beating on Volchenkov, i guess the team is in shambles, wow, maybe worry about the B's powerplay. Hopefully next time they play the Devils somebody on the team will recognize him and give him a knuckle sandwich, if they can recognize him.

     
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    I love all the arm chair quarterbacking and bravado here.  The only one who might have seen what happened was Jagr who came in for a chop as the ref stepped in.  Everyone else was confused as to what happened.  I didn't see it clearly until the replay either.  Campbell didn't see it at all and when you see a teammate act stunned like Marchand you might wonder if he was high-sticked, or what happened.  You know, instead of throwing off your equipment and jumping the nearest Devil like all the keyboard tough guys here would do.  

    I thought the Matt Cooke hit was clear as day and the Bruins had every chance to do something about it -- in that game and the next one.  They failed.

    As for Volchenkov, I don't think anyone was clear about what happened until he had already been kicked out of the game.  The best revenge is winning the game and circling the calendar for the next time they see Volchenkov.  All of the chest pounding here is a little misguided.

    Shanny might have to carry the water on this one, for now.



    If you are on the ice and you see Marchand on the ice, and Jagr addressing the player that just hit him, what the hell do you think is happening?  It's not about being a keyboard tough guy, it's about what teammates should do for one another.  I don't give a darn if we are playing at a stick time morning skate, if you were my teammate and an opponent gave you a shot to the head and I didn't see it, but my teammate did and confronted the player, I would definitely try and get a pound of flesh.  The Bruins didn't even try!  Jagr did what he is supposed to do as a non-fighter, and that is to make it known to the guys on the ice that do fight, who to go after!  Marchand is the Bruins leading scorer for crying out loud!  What you want the "next time dance". You mean like that crap that Thornton had with Cooke? 

     
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    Relax, so nobody laid a beating on Volchenkov, i guess the team is in shambles, wow, maybe worry about the B's powerplay. Hopefully next time they play the Devils somebody on the team will recognize him and give him a knuckle sandwich, if they can recognize him.

     

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    Nobody said the team is in shambles!  A powerplay effectiveness does not affect one's health! These guys claim they love playing together.  Their actions prove otherwise to me.  It's obviously an issue that is being addressed by the coach & the team!

     
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    Relax, so nobody laid a beating on Volchenkov, i guess the team is in shambles, wow, maybe worry about the B's powerplay. Hopefully next time they play the Devils somebody on the team will recognize him and give him a knuckle sandwich, if they can recognize him.

     



    Nobody said the team is in shambles!  A powerplay effectiveness does not affect one's health! These guys claim they love playing together.  Their actions prove otherwise to me.  It's obviously an issue that is being addressed by the coach & the team!

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    So i guess what your saying is the B's should have laid a beating on Colin Greening for giving Bergeron a concussion ? They missed out on that one too. Who was on the ice there, i forget but will try to look at the video and see if anyone saw it and did nothing. I think Rask saw it and did nothing, team unity is gone. 

     
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    So i guess what your saying is the B's should have laid a beating on Colin Greening for giving Bergeron a concussion ? They missed out on that one too. Who was on the ice there, i forget but will try to look at the video and see if anyone saw it and did nothing. I think Rask saw it and did nothing, team unity is gone. 



    Really, do I even need to respond to such an idiotic response?  A post like that just makes you look bad.

     
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    If you are on the ice and you see Marchand on the ice, and Jagr addressing the player that just hit him, what the hell do you think is happening?  It's not about being a keyboard tough guy, it's about what teammates should do for one another.  I don't give a darn if we are playing at a stick time morning skate, if you were my teammate and an opponent gave you a shot to the head and I didn't see it, but my teammate did and confronted the player, I would definitely try and get a pound of flesh.  The Bruins didn't even try!  Jagr did what he is supposed to do as a non-fighter, and that is to make it known to the guys on the ice that do fight, who to go after!  Marchand is the Bruins leading scorer for crying out loud!  What you want the "next time dance". You mean like that crap that Thornton had with Cooke? 

     

     



    Mean, you're all over the place today.

     

    1. Marchand wasn't down "on the ice".  Not at first.  He stood there looking stunned.  As I watched the game live, I was wondering "is he hurt?"  Somebody mentioned (DrCC?) that if he went down, it might have been more apparent that he was hurt.  I agree.  It was confusing in real-time.

    2. Yes, Jagr responded a little.  The other guys didn't because they didn't know what happened.  Do you not believe Ference when he said this?  They may not be the best players, but Ference and Campbell are two of the very best at sticking up for teammates.  There is a reason they didn't do it here.  You can't scream about what their reaction should have been after watching 50 replays -- you've got to put yourself in the moment.  It was hard to tell what happened and AV was escorted away quickly.

    3. I bet you can't find one person here that wouldn't like to see AV get pounded in hindsight.  I would.  It's not like you're the only one that would like to see a retaliatory beating, but be realistic about the situation.  In many years of playing hockey, I can think of a lot of times where I heard a whistle and then saw an injured teammate behind the play.  You don't just start randomly attacking someone, you try to figure out what happened.  It wasn't clear.

     
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    Ference rushed over to his teammate , trying to figure out what happened.  THat was the appropriate reaction.



    Totally agree.

     
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    So i guess what your saying is the B's should have laid a beating on Colin Greening for giving Bergeron a concussion ? They missed out on that one too. Who was on the ice there, i forget but will try to look at the video and see if anyone saw it and did nothing. I think Rask saw it and did nothing, team unity is gone. 

     



    Really, do I even need to respond to such an idiotic response?  A post like that just makes you look bad.

     



    Yes.  Yes you do.

     
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    In many years of playing hockey, I can think of a lot of times where I heard a whistle and then saw an injured teammate behind the play.  You don't just start randomly attacking someone, you try to figure out what happened.  It wasn't clear.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlbL5E0BInc


    You don't think a response like this would have been the right thing to do?

     
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    So i guess what your saying is the B's should have laid a beating on Colin Greening for giving Bergeron a concussion ? They missed out on that one too. Who was on the ice there, i forget but will try to look at the video and see if anyone saw it and did nothing. I think Rask saw it and did nothing, team unity is gone. 

     



    Really, do I even need to respond to such an idiotic response?  A post like that just makes you look bad.

     

     



    Yes.  Yes you do.

     



    not lol.but a chuckle  i liked it

     

     
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    I believe if Campbell wasn't fishing for the puck, looking down at the puck, he would have pummeld Volchenkov. No doubt in my mind and that would have been ok...well except for Greg losing again.

     
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    So i guess what your saying is the B's should have laid a beating on Colin Greening for giving Bergeron a concussion ? They missed out on that one too. Who was on the ice there, i forget but will try to look at the video and see if anyone saw it and did nothing. I think Rask saw it and did nothing, team unity is gone. 

     



    Really, do I even need to respond to such an idiotic response?  A post like that just makes you look bad.

     



    Seems like a fair analogy to me.  You're saying that when an opposing player hits a Bruin, and the Bruin is injured, his teammates should attack the opposing player whether they saw the hit or not.

    By that logic, you must be furious they didn't attack Colin Greening. 

     
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    Mean, you're all over the place today.

     

    1. Marchand wasn't down "on the ice".  Not at first.  He stood there looking stunned.  As I watched the game live, I was wondering "is he hurt?"  Somebody mentioned (DrCC?) that if he went down, it might have been more apparent that he was hurt.  I agree.  It was confusing in real-time. Splitting Hairs, If he looked stunned, that isn't enough?

    2. Yes, Jagr responded a little.  The other guys didn't because they didn't know what happened.  Do you not believe Ference when he said this?  NO I don't! Ference also said "Regardless of what happened, part of having a team identity isnt about talk. Its about actions" They may not be the best players, but Ference and Campbell are two of the very best at sticking up for teammates. They are, but they failed this time. There is a reason they didn't do it here.  You can't scream about what their reaction should have been after watching 50 replays -- you've got to put yourself in the moment. I have and I have already said that I would have assumed after seeing Jagr bump Volchenkov that I needed to address the player physically.  It was hard to tell what happened and AV was escorted away quickly. He was standing over Marchand and was on the ice for 30 seconds, not that quick in my book.

     

    3. I bet you can't find one person here that wouldn't like to see AV get pounded in hindsight.  I would.  It's not like you're the only one that would like to see a retaliatory beating, but be realistic about the situation.  In many years of playing hockey, I can think of a bunch of times where I heard a whistle and then saw an injured teammate behind the play.  You don't just start randomly attacking someone, you try to figure out what happened.  It wasn't clear.  This is where we disagree, there was enough signs that I have mentioned that retaliation was necessary.  I didn't need and still don't need someone to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt!  I would rather err on that side, than to do nothing but help cart my teammate off the ice.




     
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    Seems like a fair analogy to me.  You're saying that when an opposing player hits a Bruin, and the Bruin is injured, his teammates should attack the opposing player whether they saw the hit or not.

     

    By that logic, you must be furious they didn't attack Colin Greening. 



    If you think it is a fair analogy, then you are an idiot as well!  Obviously you guys know the difference and just want to be a holes and try and get me to react.  It really is unbecoming of you.

     
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    Yes.  Yes you do.

     



    No, No I don't! 

     
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