Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft

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    Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft

    On TSN.ca, Bob Mckenzie states there is a significant drop after top 9. He includes Nathan Belieau in his drop which I have seen him being taken by the bruins in many mock drafts. He is projected to be a 3-4 defenseman on tsn with PP abilities. He sounds like another james wisniewski. 

    I want something better than that for a top ten pick. 

    I keep reading about Murphy and I get excited. I think with Fowler dropping last year, there will be no chance of him falling this year. 
     
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    I keep reading about Murphy and I get excited. I think with Fowler dropping last year, there will be no chance of him falling this year. 
    Posted by mjhernon




    wait wait, let's examine this logic. You think that because Fowler fell almost 13 picks after where he was projected (top 3-5) that there is less of a chance a Murphy will fall in this years draft? Why?

    It may happen that Murphy goes off the board earlier than you expect, but not because of some mysterious lesson learned from last year. Cam Fowler fell last year because teams saw more value in the crop in front of them (for the most part, GM's appear to have been right). 

    I know it's tempting to look for patterns, but i wouldn't put any stock in Cam Fowler's slide.

     
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    Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft

    If the Bruins get either one of these 3 at #40 I'd be pleased...

    39
    Ht/Wt:6.01/175 lbs
    Position:D
    Team: Mississauga (OHL)

    40*
    Ht/Wt:6.00/195 lbs
    Position:RW
    Team: Plymouth ( OHL )

    41
    Ht/Wt:6.03/191 lbs
    Position:D
    Team: Vancouver (WHL)


    If you told Chiarelli that there is nothing after the #9 pick last year he would have laughed at McKenzie. The Spooner's and Knight's will be there again...
     
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    What about the Bruins selecting Tuukka's brother at 39?

     
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    What about the Bruins selecting Tuukka's brother at 39?
    Posted by GillesGilbert


    Too bad he's not a D-Man so his brother can blame him for blocking his vision when goals go past him.
     
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    Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft

    Remember last year when many people were bananas over Kabanov and felt the B's should trade up to get him in the first round?

    Oh the comedy.
     
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    this isnt new news.  Its been rumored this draft is weak after the 1st 10.  Thats why I didnt care about dealing off our pick.  Which is essentially almost a 2nd rounder when all is said and done. 

    we will get a good dman.  smile, thank the leafs for rebuilding a cup champion with young studs
     
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    Remember last year when many people were bananas over Kabanov and felt the B's should trade up to get him in the first round? Oh the comedy.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    I was a Kabanov banana, but not in the first round.  I was thinking second round as a gamble.

    However, please, let us not speak of this Kabanov again.  Please.
     
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    In Response to Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft : I was a Kabanov banana, but not in the first round.  I was thinking second round as a gamble. However, please, let us not speak of this Kabanov again.  Please.
    Posted by BadHabitude


    I too am a recovering Kabanov-nana...he should remain nameless in this forum forever.
     
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    In Response to Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft : I too am a recovering Kabanov-nana...he should remain nameless in this forum forever.
    Posted by Crowls2424


    It really is funny, however.  Each time I think back to people wanting to move Krejci or Bergeron for the chance to draft the kid in the top 10 and he falls somewhere around #76 (guess, too lazy to look it up).

    And then the kid turns out to be a mess.
     
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    i still need to know how everyone on earth missed datsyuk until the 6th round.  how does this happen?  man he was disgusting in the playoffs. 
     
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    Remember last year when many people were bananas over Kabanov and felt the B's should trade up to get him in the first round? Oh the comedy.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    YAZ ?  I remember how many got upset on Bruins taking Knight over Kabanov
     
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    In Response to Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft : It really is funny, however.  Each time I think back to people wanting to move Krejci or Bergeron for the chance to draft the kid in the top 10 and he falls somewhere around #76 (guess, too lazy to look it up). And then the kid turns out to be a mess.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    I do remember some folks advocating the trading Bergeron for a top-5 pick (Columbus, I believe), but do not recall folks calling for drafting Kabanov there.

    I'll walk the plank to say I wanted the B's to pick him, the highest I was willing to go was the B's 2nd 1st Rounder before they traded it to FLA. Kabanov went #65 to the NYI, by the way.

    Lesson learned. I now put forth no opinion on players that I have not seen play, rather share points of view from others that have (Mock Drafts), as well as, read the good scouting reports from posters out here that have seen these kids play.

    Now, no more Kabanov talk, too embarrassing for me.
     
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    The best part of this coming draft is that, with the Cup run, we haven't had time to be inundated with all of the BS.  The draft will be over before we can have too many people advocating Caron, Matt Lashoff's old helmet and the B's fifth round pick to NYI for Tavares.  He's RFA, ya know.

     
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    Well, one thing about Kabanov... they have him listed as 176.  When I saw him at the rookie game last year he looked ridiculously thin even with all of his equipment on.  There was some false advertising going on somewhere, there's no way that he weighs 176, more like 156.
     
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    The best part of this coming draft is that, with the Cup run, we haven't had time to be inundated with all of the BS.  The draft will be over before we can have too many people advocating Caron, Matt Lashoff's old helmet and the B's fifth round pick to NYI for Tavares.  He's RFA, ya know.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot



    Have to admit you are right about that.

    I was a chucklehead about Kabanov, but then there were those total idiots last year who insisted we had to trade up to get Hall.
     
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    41
    Ht/Wt:6.03/191 lbs
    Position:D
    Team: Vancouver (WHL)

    I hope he is available at the #40 pick... I would really like to see the Bruins pick him up
     
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    In Response to Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft : It really is funny, however.  Each time I think back to people wanting to move Krejci or Bergeron for the chance to draft the kid in the top 10 and he falls somewhere around #76 (guess, too lazy to look it up). And then the kid turns out to be a mess.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot

    Most of those folks likely hadn't even seen the kid play very much whether live or on TV. I was overly familiar with Kabanov's game, both on and off of the ice since he played an hour away in Moncton. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything positive that I've ever said about him.He was always a bigger dink than he was a scorer. Everyone yearns for the next Pavel Bure. Kabanov is closer to the next Pavel Brendl. He'll probably have a decent career in the KHL.
     
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    What about the Bruins selecting Tuukka's brother at 39?
    Posted by GillesGilbert


    I don't think they are related are they? Victor Rask is from Sweden?
     
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    Wait a minute, a drop off after the top 9? 

    Is there really that much agreement on who the top 9 are?
     
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    Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft

    RNH
    Larsson
    Landeskog
    Huberdeau
    Hamilton
    Couturier
    Strome
    Zibanejad
    Murphy

    Pretty much every year someone is a surprise pick early...Wheeler anyone? Most rankings I've seen don't have anyone else in the top 9. I'd be fine with any of these guys for sure.
     
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    RNH Larsson Landeskog Huberdeau Hamilton Couturier Strome Zibanejad Murphy Pretty much every year someone is a surprise pick early...Wheeler anyone? Most rankings I've seen don't have anyone else in the top 9. I'd be fine with any of these guys for sure.
    Posted by derrickmorin


    I've seen Beaulieu, Bastschi and Siemens get mixed into the top 9.  I don't like Zibanejad, otherwise I agree, any of those guys would be ok.
     
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    Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft

    I still like the kid.  I always said if he got his head straightened out he'd be a good hockey player.  Seems he's grown up a bit, like all teenagers do.

    Humanitarian nomination

    Playoff numbers 
    1581220

    Coach thinks "he's probably one of the best players in the league".

    Btw, does anyone know what Knights playoff numbers were?
     
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    In Response to www.boston.com/community/forums.html?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3aSportsForum%3a0d190bb9-6882-4397-9ce1-e66db723d396Discussion%3a3bd1fe07-5ac9-492a-ba4a-42b53c371508&plckFindPostKey=Cat:SportsForum:0d190bb9-6882-4397-9ce1-e66db723d396Discussion:3bd1fe07-5ac9-492a-ba4a-42b53c371508Post:7a840994-e5e1-477d-90f7-cd797b4e3890">Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft:
    I still like the kid.  I always said if he got his head straightened out he'd be a good hockey player.  Seems he's grown up a bit, like all teenagers do. Humanitarian nomination Playoff numbers  15 8 12 20 Coach  thinks "he's probably one of the best players in the league". Btw, does anyone know what Knights playoff numbers were?
    Posted by bim09


    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=116045

    Knight had 4 goals and 2 assists in 6 playoff games.

    I liked Kabanov last year in the 2nd round and although he is a head case (we knew that going into the draft last year), he still has a great deal of 'upside'.
     
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    Re: Mckenzie states signficant drop after top 9 in draft

    Guess it's a good year to be picking in the top 9.
     
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