More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

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    More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    I know sample size is smallish, but not hard to believe that the mucking, defensive system holds back anyone with offensive talent.

    Ask Blake Wheeler about the freedom of escaping Julien's system:
    Season Team    Lge GP G A Pts PIM

    2010-11 Boston Bruins* NHL  58  11  16  27    32      
    2010-11 Atlanta Thrashers NHL  10  4   4   8     
       8

    Or Peverly for that matter...

    2010-11 Atlanta Thrashers* NHL 59  14 20    34          35      
    2010-11 Boston Bruins NHL 9   1    
    1     2           0

    From Hockeydb.com
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    Atlanta 70 pts 11th in the east

    Boston 85 pts 3rd in the east

    I'm willing to sacrifice individual stats for team stats.
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    Shouldn't the fact that Julien was canned in New Jersey in the last week of the season with a 49-24-9 1st place record say it all?   I defintely understand it now.  Even with Julien's 107 point season, Lamoriello said the teams lack of readiness to challenge for the Stanley Cup as the reason he fired Julien.
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    And of course your "evidence" intentionally ignores these numbers:

    Place     Team    G    W    L   OTL   PTS   GF    GA

    3         Boston   68   38   21   9      85   205   164

    11       Atlanta   69   29   28   12    70   194   223
     
    Tell me how much better the Atlanta system is again, over 137 games.
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    If the team does better than Game 7 of Round 2, CJ is in no danger of losing his job.

     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    The job of the coach is to get the team to win, not pad individual stats.  This is also a lousy comparison because both Wheeler and Peverly were/are third liners on Boston and 1st liners on Atlanta.  Marc Savard posted identical stats with both teams in the same role so that's a better comparison.  He also became a far more respected all-around player under CJ, something he wasn't under any other coach.
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    The problem with this system is that the little reverse pass in between the D will work against passive offense but when you get into the playoffs teams like the Flyers have an agressive forecheck with 2 mans deep and that is when the system is collapsing. It was the same prob vs Carolina.  The Bs have to break out by the middle instead of reversing the play 35 times in a row.  But to do that you need a good first pass...that is why most of the teams don't do it but good teams like Detroit have understood that long time ago!!
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

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    good teams like Detroit have understood that long time ago!!
    Posted by lucaooo


    I went to the Detroit game last nightand watched them surgically run off 5 goals despite killing penalties the whole second period, and the reason they score and win is NOT because they have a good first pass.  Its because they have players on their THIRD line with more offensive skill than the B's have on their first line.  Its also because they have skill on their first and second lines that the B's havent had this decade.
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    In Response to Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back:
    In Response to Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back : I went to the Detroit game last nightand watched them surgically run off 5 goals despite killing penalties the whole second period, and the reason they score and win is NOT because they have a good first pass.  Its because they have players on their THIRD line with more offensive skill than the B's have on their first line.  Its also because they have skill on their first and second lines that the B's havent had this decade.
    Posted by SoxFanInIL

    Bingo.  Why Bruins fans can't seem to grasp the fact that it's not just coaching but lack of elite talent (not talent) that it's holding this team back.  Exchange coaches with Detroit do we win that many more games.  Exchange talent with Detroit and I guaranty a further playoff run.  It's talent that consistently wins not system and or coach.

     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    Pretty sure that's why PC went out and overpaid for Kaberle and has been stockpiling young puck moving D-men like Kampfer, Cohen, and Bart. CJ was visibly peeved when they traded away Hunwick purely for that reason.
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    Obvious faninIl is comparing oranges to apples. How many changes in line combinations does Detroit make?? Are they always switching their defensive pairings, or do they have the same pairings playing together regularly? Did Datsyuk lose the entire year? like Savard? Is Lidstrom the only comparable [age wise] to Recchi?? Is that a reasonable comparison? Has Detroit been in a rebuilding mode since the lockout? Did they Lose most top end talent during the lockout?? Is Detroit equally adept at both offense and defense?? Did Lewis bring the Detroit "  system" with him? Was Claude brought in for Offense? or defense? or both?? Claude is a defensive coach first, last, and always. Does Detroit bring in "rookies" or do they make sure their "rookies" have 3+ years in a quality minor league?? The comparison is unsupportable because Claude was never expected to be a brilliant or flexible offensive coach. I'm not supporting Claude, but let's have equality in the comparisons.
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    Hunwick was awful
     
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    Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back

    In Response to Re: More evidence that Julien's system and coaching ability is holding us back:
    Shouldn't the fact that Julien was canned in New Jersey in the last week of the season with a 49-24-9 1st place record say it all?   I defintely understand it now.  Even with Julien's 107 point season, Lamoriello said the teams lack of readiness to challenge for the Stanley Cup as the reason he fired Julien.
    Posted by abra-cadaver


    how did that work out for them? they lost 4-1 in the second round.
     
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