Re: Myers At 5.5m-How Much For Doughty?
posted at 9/19/2011 12:13 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Myers At 5.5m-How Much For Doughty?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Myers At 5.5m-How Much For Doughty? : How am I off base, I was talking about the Lull in HOF d men, and said after lidstrom and pronger retire, the next class of guys i see having a shot is doughty, maybe weber, maybe johnson if he can recover (he had a great rookie year as an 18 year old).. All of them were maybes, but doughty is 21 and is already one of the NHL's elite, and has a better offensive game.. Doughtys 4 years younger, think of where he will be at by 25/26.. or more importantly 27-29 when he is actually hitting his prime.. But this was going from the idea that there are no guys in that 28-34 (prime of their careers) that I think have a chance.. Weber is very good, but if he puts up 40 points a year for his career, plays about 15 years, does 600 points get you in?? Cause this was his best season, he is a defensive defensemen with a hard shot, I don't think Chara has any shot at the hall right now either.. I mean I am being hard on him, cause I don't put him in the hall of fame??
Posted by rolerhoky19[/QUOTE]
This isnt the 80's when Paul Coffee was getting high point totals. I don't think the mark of a good dman is pts. I think the fact he is a young captain, who is an elite dman and is entering his prime with the chance to sign elsewhere next summer makes him probably the best shot along with Keith and possibly Drew.
Weber is a defensive dman, but was also 3rd in team scoring as well on a talent starved team, also tallying 16 goals(far from defensive dman), also posting 16 and 23 goal yrs.
I will make this prediction. Weber signs in Detroit or gets traded there this winter prior to the deadline. Lidstrom likely will hand the keys over after one more year.
Let me ask you this. Does Rob Blake and his 777 pts get into the HOF. I think Blake and Weber are very comparible. Yet, Weber still hasnt played with any talent and Blake had talents such as Sakic, Gretzky, Forsberg, Thorton, etc etc.
As for Chara, although never really a big fan I have to admit that if he plays another 5 strong yrs he likely will get in. I am not sure there are two players more valuable to their teams than Weber and Chara for that matter. Chara has won, Chara as a team captain and consistant point totals to match the overall game, plus individual awards should get him some looks.
I think the evolution of the game will make it impossible for high scoring dmen to exist. Green in Wash has very high pt totals and may pass Chara over the next 5 yrs but I highly doubt he gets any consideration.
I think of the young dmen in todays league Weber has the best chance, he has won individual awards, he has won international gold in junior and olympics, he is a young captain and likely signs with a winning franchise this summer. He is also very durable. Played in all 82 games last year and 76 the previous year.
Again, if I could choose one dman his name would be tops on my list.