Re: Negotiations end with both sides fustrated.
posted at 11/11/2012 2:34 PM EST
In response to stevegm's comment:
Attendance histories don't really support that argument Kel. I agree though, a lot of what's being hammered out now should become more of a "constitution", than a temporary work agreement. The split should be good to go for literally decades. Free agency, entry level deals....all of that stuff is constant, and shouldn't denigrate to warefare every 4 or 5 years. If free agency at 27 is a bad idea, it's always a bad idea, not just in 2009 or 2014, or 2155.
50-50 is fair. Always will be, as long as that is the precedent in pro sport.
To me, because there is such a huge gap revenue wise between the top 5 teams and the bottom 5 teams is the biggest reason there is a lockout. I don't know what the average attendance is in Tampa,Florida,Columbus,Pheonix etc..But even if they sold out every game they wouldnt even be close to generating as much revenue as teams like Montreal,Toronto and Boston etc..I dont think the local networks that show their games down there in Sunrise get as much for advertising. Probably not even close. Then you factor in appeareal,merchandise etc..It's gotta be huge, now the owners are askign the players to foot some of the bill in those regards.
For me, like I said, theres a huge difference between a small market and a bad market. NHL has too many teams in bad markets. Small markets can thrive, Look at the Packers. Just buying a ticket doesnt make anyone a good market. Example: A team in Quebec selling out their 10,000 seat stadium every night is much healthier than a team in Florida averaging 12.000 a night. The overall interest in the smaller market is much greater, thus generating more revenue across the board.
The NHL has had 4 work stoppages in the last 20 years. The single biggest reason for this is expansion. Expansion in bad markets.
If someone told you that Tampa, Florida, Phoenix, and Columbus all had better attendance than the Boston Bruins, the year before the salary cap came into effect....would that change your opinion?
Not long ago, the Dallas Stars were one of the more valuable NHL properties. Does that change your mind any?
And yes, buying a ticket is the biggest single thing. Certainly bigger than player salaries, when considering a potential location.
We're not mired in a lockout because of expansion. We're not mired in a lockout because of neccessity either. This lockout is only about one thing. MORE.
I think the lockout is based on the fact that there are bottom teams, the ones I mentioned, that are losing money and the owners would like the players to pick up more of the tab. If thats what you mean by more than I agree with you. Before the last lockout the league revenues were 2 billion. The owners wanted a salary cap/floor to level the playing field. Before this lockout the league revenues were 3.3 billion. The owners want the weaker teams to get some of that to ensure a healthier league but they want the players to pay more into those revenues.