New Line Combos and why no Redden?

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    New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    Im baffled at the new line combos and the exclusion of Redden.  i love campy but why not just move him up one spot?  

    Im sorry if there is a thread somewhere but is it so hard to put jagr with dk.  They are both gifted offensively.  Its like watching ovie with beagle and the other plug they had him with. 

    My new lines and rationale:

    dk/jagr/dog-  dk and jagr have played together and can create.  Dog is high energy with some skill and would go through walls to play with those two.  He was very well liked in ottawa.  

    seguin/lucic/horton- im keeping seguin at center until bergie comes back.  

    Kelly/peverly/marchand- speed plus marchand is our best fwd and can play with anyone.  

    Campy/paille/ST(ugh)- use them sparingly.  Paille Campy main pk guys so they will see the ice

    Def:

    chara/redden- get them together. for christ sakes play redden over bart.  

    Seidz/hamilton-  i think hamilton plays better with seidz. Just my opinion though. 

    Ference/boychuk- ference has to be much better

     

    i know im no coach but getting dk with jagr is my main beef and getting redden in over bart also.  A game against a struggling carolina team is a perfect chance to get redden in.  

    I hate the new line combos.  

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    Shupe, I casually mentioned this on the last game thread but putting Jagr with DK is so blatantly obvious (due to their familiarity with each other) that it will be literally the last thing CJ will do.

    Classic stubborn Claude......Campbell and his whole 7 points centering the second line is just plain dumb....

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to jmwalters' comment:

    Shupe, I casually mentioned this on the last game thread but putting Jagr with DK is so blatantly obvious (due to their familiarity with each other) that it will be literally the last thing CJ will do.

    Classic stubborn Claude......Campbell and his whole 7 points centering the second line is just plain dumb....



    +1

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    Although it would never be mentioned, I'm betting it all has something to do with defensive reponsibilities. This could get real ugly fast.

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    DK with Jagr yes

    seguin iwth looch and horton. yes

    Mardchand with pevs and kelly yes only becuse hes playing like a 3rd liner lately.

    Redden in and ferrence out ok.

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    Wally, you'd take Ference out over Bartkowski?

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from shuperman. Show shuperman's posts

    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to JWensink's comment:

    Although it would never be mentioned, I'm betting it all has something to do with defensive reponsibilities. This could get real ugly fast.



    Well we arent scoring so something has to give. One of the highest scoring teams last year(i think 1st?).  

    Get redden in and dk with jagr.  i love campy, i believe on most teams he could be a 3rd line center...im at a lose with these combos and not getting redden in the lineup.  

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to jmwalters' comment:

    Shupe, I casually mentioned this on the last game thread but putting Jagr with DK is so blatantly obvious (due to their familiarity with each other) that it will be literally the last thing CJ will do.

    Classic stubborn Claude......Campbell and his whole 7 points centering the second line is just plain dumb....



    Play skill with skill.   if the khl line was tearing the league up id leave it be.  They havent.  Get jagr and dk together.  

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to lambda13's comment:

    Wally, you'd take Ference out over Bartkowski?




    Honestly yes, I think bartowski is adjusting well, a few more games will tell. Ferrence seems to be giving away the puck alot and getting over powered  alot.

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to jmwalters' comment:

    Shupe, I casually mentioned this on the last game thread but putting Jagr with DK is so blatantly obvious (due to their familiarity with each other) that it will be literally the last thing CJ will do.

    Classic stubborn Claude......Campbell and his whole 7 points centering the second line is just plain dumb....



    +2

     
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    In response to lambda13's comment:

    Wally, you'd take Ference out over Bartkowski?



    I would also play Bartkowski over Ference.

    He hasn't been playing that well so far, but NHL seasoning will take him a long way.  Get him enough games and he might be suitable when you need him in the playoffs otherwise you can't have him play postseason.

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    It would be Kelly in Bergeron's spot if he were 100% and not coming back from a broken leg.  So JW is probably right - it's the most professional guy who can get the other two the puck and not give CJ heartburn.

    Seguin sounds like he knows why he didn't stick at C.

    I have no idea on why not Redden other than that they may want to give Bartkowski one more shot to get the taste of that Scab game out of his mouth.

    But I keep saying the biggest reason Julien hasn't changed the top line is that it is the only line not currently disrupted by injury.  The only line that showed much chemistry last game was the Krejci line - I thought Lucic set up the tying goal at least twice and both times either Horton didn't bear down enough or didn't shoot.  Jagr and Krecji might be fun, but it's not a certainty they'd be more producting than the currrent group.

     
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    Its like cj said "screw it" and drew names from a hat.  

    Jagr made giroux and hartnell better players.  Can he not provide the same with seguin and marchand?   Would he and dk not feed off each other.  Why is bart anchoring top 4 minutes.  Im lost about these moves.  

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to Bookboy007's comment:

    It would be Kelly in Bergeron's spot if he were 100% and not coming back from a broken leg.  So JW is probably right - it's the most professional guy who can get the other two the puck and not give CJ heartburn.

    Seguin sounds like he knows why he didn't stick at C.

    I have no idea on why not Redden other than that they may want to give Bartkowski one more shot to get the taste of that Scab game out of his mouth.

    But I keep saying the biggest reason Julien hasn't changed the top line is that it is the only line not currently disrupted by injury.  The only line that showed much chemistry last game was the Krejci line - I thought Lucic set up the tying goal at least twice and both times either Horton didn't bear down enough or didn't shoot.  Jagr and Krecji might be fun, but it's not a certainty they'd be more producting than the currrent group.



    It might not be better.  But it cant be worse.  We arent scoring.   If he wants to keep that line together then keep the 4th line together.  And then mix and match the 2-3 lines.  but campy with jagr reminds me of beagle with ovie.  I read seguins comments as well and believe some of it is correct.  But a sample size really isnt a good indicator.  

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to shuperman's comment:

    Its like cj said "screw it" and drew names from a hat.  

    Jagr made giroux and hartnell better players.  Can he not provide the same with seguin and marchand?   Would he and dk not feed off each other.  Why is bart anchoring top 4 minutes.  Im lost about these moves.  




    Shupe - Drawing names from a hat, good one. And maybe not that far fetched. How else could CJ explain his choices?

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to shuperman's comment:

    Im baffled at the new line combos and the exclusion of Redden.  i love campy but why not just move him up one spot?  

    Im sorry if there is a thread somewhere but is it so hard to put jagr with dk.  They are both gifted offensively.  Its like watching ovie with beagle and the other plug they had him with. 

    My new lines and rationale:

    dk/jagr/dog-  dk and jagr have played together and can create.  Dog is high energy with some skill and would go through walls to play with those two.  He was very well liked in ottawa.  

    seguin/lucic/horton- im keeping seguin at center until bergie comes back.  

    Kelly/peverly/marchand- speed plus marchand is our best fwd and can play with anyone.  

    Campy/paille/ST(ugh)- use them sparingly.  Paille Campy main pk guys so they will see the ice

    Def:

    chara/redden- get them together. for christ sakes play redden over bart.  

    Seidz/hamilton-  i think hamilton plays better with seidz. Just my opinion though. 

    Ference/boychuk- ference has to be much better

     

    i know im no coach but getting dk with jagr is my main beef and getting redden in over bart also.  A game against a struggling carolina team is a perfect chance to get redden in.  

    I hate the new line combos.  



    i was gonna ask a similar question, Looch, Krecji & Jagr sounds like a good combo to me and why not put Redden in the lineup tonite?

     

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    and Campbell centering the 2nd line is ridiculous, Caron in and Pandolfo out doesnt make any sense either. for all the crap Pandolfo gets on here he is what he has always been a good 4th line player/penalty killer...he wasnt brought in to score goals

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    Bartkowski has been doing well. Maybe not top 4 d well, but good enough to stay.

    Wasn't Redden trade having something to do with his 1st game played? Certain that if he plays 1 game in the playoffs he gets more money/St. Louis get better pick? Along that line?

    What needs work is the PP. Always disliked mixing the lines up. That's messing with the Chemistry, imo.

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to LordByron77's comment:

    Bartkowski has been doing well. Maybe not top 4 d well, but good enough to stay.



    Did you see the Montreal game?  The fact that he put the first goal in for the Habs notwithstanding, it was his grandma pass up the boards that created that turnover the start the play.

    He suuuuuuuucks.

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    I want to see Redden get a shot, I think once he gets into the line up he isnt coming out. Bartkowski looked real nervous the other night, if he's like that for a game in Montreal, he might be the same in a playoff game.

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    New lines looked pretty good tonight. 

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to Nolakanookie's comment:

    New lines looked pretty good tonight. 




    I thought so too. Well balanced actually.

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to dezaruchi's comment:


    I thought so too. Well balanced actually.

     




    I like your new avatar. 

     
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    Dez's new avatar is somehow very unDez

     
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    Re: New Line Combos and why no Redden?

    In response to kelvana33's comment:

    I want to see Redden get a shot, I think once he gets into the line up he isnt coming out. Bartkowski looked real nervous the other night, if he's like that for a game in Montreal, he might be the same in a playoff game.



    Kelv, I think your wanting to see the Redden from Ottawa days.. The guy has been out of the league for over three years.  I don't think he has anything left , And St .Louis found that out fast...when you can't beat out Kris Russell .. I think that pretty much says it right there...

    Frankly, I don't know why PC picked him up.  This league has changed a lot in three+ years... And it's no fun catching up at his age...

     
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