Nieuwendyk out as Stars GM

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    Nieuwendyk out as Stars GM

    To be replaced by Jim Nill:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=667985&navid=nhl:topheads

    Didn't see this one coming.

     

     
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    Joe didnt do anything.  He got raped in trades and they didnt improve by stocking up on young players.  They missed the playoffs.  James Neal would look nice with Benn.  I think joe may work for pitt.  Morrow has been outstanding for them.  

     
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    Re: Nieuwendyk out as Stars GM

    In response to shuperman's comment:

    Joe didnt do anything.  He got raped in trades and they didnt improve by stocking up on young players.  They missed the playoffs.  James Neal would look nice with Benn.  I think joe may work for pitt.  Morrow has been outstanding for them.  



    Considering how he fed the Pens with those lopsided trades perhaps Shero may prefer he infiltrate another organization?

     
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    Bonehead trade after bonehead trade.  No reason to keep him for an extra second.

     
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    Nill has been an Assistant GM in Detroit for 15 years. The Stars must have offered him one hell of a deal.

     
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    Yzerman should follow him shortly ... Great players who make lousy GM's....

     
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    In response to cowboys9's comment:

    Yzerman should follow him shortly ... Great players who make lousy GM's....




    Yzerman has been done in by poor goaltending.  The wonder is if he had other choices or not.

     
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    Nieuwendyk didn't exactly have a clean slate to work with, either.  He had to gut the team for an ownership change, then rebuild with an empty prospect cupboard.  He did the smart thing by signing veterans who would put buttocks in seats and then move ot a contender at the deadline for a first or second rounder.  He was accumulating to build throught the draft.

     
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    The franchice is a joke just like Florida. Any GM is going to have no money to play with, just be safely above the cap floor. Both arenas are beautiful and should attract fans in a non-hockey market but the Board of Governors keep letting groups of investors come in, get their money and then they split. Repeat, Repeat, Repeat.

    Salary dumps typically don't get great returns. I'm sure Nill has learned allot in Detroit but without the right ownership that will spend, it's usually a no win situation. Get the right ownership(s) in Florida, Phoenix and Dallas or move them. This thread will have Maloney or Tallon's name in it in two years.

     
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    Re: Nieuwendyk out as Stars GM

    In response to SanDogBrewin's comment:

    The franchice is a joke just like Florida. Any GM is going to have no money to play with, just be safely above the cap floor. Both arenas are beautiful and should attract fans in a non-hockey market but the Board of Governors keep letting groups of investors come in, get their money and then they split. Repeat, Repeat, Repeat.

    Salary dumps typically don't get great returns. I'm sure Nill has learned allot in Detroit but without the right ownership that will spend, it's usually a no win situation. Get the right ownership(s) in Florida, Phoenix and Dallas or move them. This thread will have Maloney or Tallon's name in it in two years.



    And the killer is that Maloney's a great GM. While they took a tumble this year, he's been able to keep the Coyotes competiitive while having to deal with the most restrictive budget in the NHL and no flipping owner.

    Imagine what he could do on a financially stable team with good ownership?

     
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    Re: Nieuwendyk out as Stars GM

    People used to say that about Slats, red.  Sometimes a GM is better when he has to be more creative because he can't afford the obvious.

     
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    Re: Nieuwendyk out as Stars GM

    Fair enough Book, but I wasn't just referring to the players' budget. There are a few other close to the Cap floor teams, three of whom made the playoffs this season. But it's not just players that he can't spend money on. As an example, he has the smallest scouting staff in the NHL. Even if he didn't get a huge player budget like Slats, I think he could be even better if he even had a staff budget.

     

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