Re: OK, I'm done, I promise
posted at 4/28/2013 10:01 AM EDT
This thread really doesn't even have anything to do with hockey. It's about cohabitating when choosing to speak publicly.
I see comments about the "party line", or "venting". My favorite, "everyones opinion should be welcome and deserves respect".
Many gray area's in this world, but there's still lots of black and white. The basics of public speaking, are pretty well defined. Book nailed the "party line", "kool-aid", "thought police" idiocy expertly. Those aren't his thoughts, they're fundamental teachings.
Venting though, hasn't been dealt with. Venting is basically, "having a tantrum." It deserves no respect and certainly no quarter. If someone feels the need to go off half cocked, they should have the good sense to do it privately, then rejoin society when they can speak logically. Sox and co seem to feel it's their right to rant illogically, without being called on it. Nobody's arguing his right to speak, they're calling out his logic. Like all tantrums, everythings exagerated, and dramatized, and out of context, and convoluted. In any grade school debating club, the average student will absolutely "slay" the opponent whose speaking from nothing more than unbridled hysteria. That party is then instructed to sit down, shut up, and do a little more listening, before getting up on their soap box again. Crying foul, just makes that person look stupider.
And this respect "crap". Millions seem to be getting that backwards these days. Grounded opinions deserve respect. Thoughtfull reasonable opinions deserve respect. Opinions shaped by "venting"...don't. Those with zero logic don't either. Good manners suggest they be quietly ignored, but when dumb thoughts are repeatedly screamed, in a public manner...all bets are off.
If someone chooses to be a defeatist quitter, when moderate intelligence suggests it has less than a 50% chance of playing out....it's their option.
It is, however, a dumb one.
Expecting agreement, and merely screaming louder and louder,.... is even dumber.
Whether it's hockey, or any other topic, the fundamentals of a public discussion/ debate, are the same. This ain't about hockey. It's dumb vs dumber.