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I wouldnt. He couldve handled that without a fullspeed trainwreck against oshie. Krejci shouldnt be throwing himself around like that he is a little guy. Much more valuable dangling defenseman and making passes then slamming into Frieghttrains like Oshie. I hope CJ wasnt telling him to throw the body if he was :facepalm:

Is this a league wide thing, or are just the Bruins being bullied? 

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Thank you dez, my thoughts exactly.  It is fine to fight when something dirty or cheap happens, or even occasionally after a clean hit (like Ference with Backes), but calling for the Bruins to try to intimidate other teams away from checking (in hockey!) is both unrealistic and dubious.  I hate the game being stopped after every good check for a retaliatory fight.  Big (clean) checks are one of the things that makes the game great.

The only Bruins concussion I can think of that should have resulted in vengence was Savard's.  The hit on Bergeron was questionable, but I saw no intent there.  Bergeron himself confirmed that. 

I think this notion that if you have more goons in the line-up and fight more often that will prevent our players from getting checked (in hockey!) is silly.  There's no way that Oshie lets up on a clean 50/50 check because he fears vengence.  He's a hockey player, and he got the best of our game.  Dust yourself off and move on.  McGratton slugging away with Jansen does nothing to help the situation.

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The hits weren't dirty and I'm beginning to suspect that YOU are truly an idiot or very young child.Either way enough already.

This hit reminded me of Bergeron running into Seidenberg. Krejci did initiate the contact, hit a rock (Oshie), and got what was coming to him. I agree with being "tough to play against" and "eye for an eye" and "vigilante justice" and "protecting your teammates" and all of that, but none of it really applies here. Be thankful Krejci wasn't really hurt and will be back soon.

C'mon Stanley, you seem to have this obsession with vigilante toughness, when hockey is a rough sport and sometimes people get hit.  There was nothing "dirty" about Oshie's hit!  We would love it if a Bruins player hit like that.

I hate how in the current NHL every big hit has to be followed by a fight.  You are supposed to hit people in hockey.  The Blues happen to do a pretty good job of it.

What you're suggesting is that somebody should have jumped Oshie for winning a 50/50 hit, thereby putting the Bruins shorthanded for the rest of the overtime??

You're having an emotional reaction to this, not a rational one.

Overall I think I agree with Stanley on this, it was not dirty hit by any mean just a solid collision on both players IMHO. How ever! base on the league's trend, if your team mate got hit let alone one of your best player, clean hit or not...the gloves will drop. Pretty much the Bruins seem to be one of very few team will not response such way  (don't you think Sabotka knew about this before he slamed Thornton into the board?) YES I think it's coaching...I'm not saying its wrong way, but I'm sure other teams acknowledged this about the Bruins,..enuff is enuff....

Fletcher ....exact I am suggesting that someone steps up and other teams start thinking before they hit our talented players ...this happens to many times when the other team's tough players hit our small and talented players ...come on open your eyes ...we lost to the Flyers  in the playoffs because they hurt Krejci ...if they have no consequences they will keep on doing it ....go ahead guys against the Bruins its an open 'buffet'  ....all you can HIT .....I had enough

Stanley Cup to the BRUINS in 2011-2012-2013 (if we protect our talented players)

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If I were RMiller, I would be enjoying "1st place" while I could too...

The hit was clean--the collision was mutual. I'm more worried about Krejci's penchant for getting injured. He's vitally important to the team.

You want to complain about hits: yes, Randy Jones and Matt Cooke, if there's any karmic hockey wheel turning, deserve to get plastered big-time for their 100% dirty, cowardly hits that could have cost both players their careers, not to mention a lifetimes' worth of serious mental injury--and we don't even know yet if Savard will ever truly recover.

But having McGratten on the bench or ice at the time would have changed nothing. These things usually happen--and in this case certainly did happen--in a fraction of a second and there's no forethought involved. Oshie and DJ are both heading for each other--Oshie's not thinking ANYTHING--much less "oooh, I better pull up b/c McGratten's over there and he's really big and might beat me up if I hit this guy"....don't be ridiculous.

There's much less opportunity as well in modern hockey for the "payback"...usually teams are only hurting themselves w/penalties if they do it that could cost them the game and vital points in a season where the difference between making the playoffs and missing out can come down (as it did w/one of 2 teams that made it to the FINALS last year) to a single point based on a shootout outcome in the last freaking game of the year. You wanna jeapordize that b/c a player that happens to be one of ours went down on a clean hit?  

The 1970's bench-clearing payback brawls are history--the only "toughness" a team really needs is guys who won't get knocked off the puck in the corner or along the boards so they can keep possession and make something happen, or on D, knock the other guy off the puck and clear the zone.

I'm ticked off that Krejci got hurt, too...he's one of my favorite Bruins...but there's no "league controversy" to "beat up on the Bruins." Stuff happens in an instant in this game, and it happens to every team. The Bruins --minus the Savard/bergeron examples--have had a string of bad luck in the injury dept. and I wish it would stop as much as the next fan, but that's the extent of it.

Hey, I'm very happy with my budding future superstar goaltender and my team's first place standing in the Northeast...

But this is me laughing at all these whiny Bruin fans who claim Oshie's hit on Krejci was "dirty" or that they somehow deserve "more respect" from other teams.

http://audio.weei.com/m/22056546/jack-edwards-laugh-box-htm

For that matter, has anyone noticed that McGrattan has been put on waivers ?

"Bruins put McGrattan on waivers."

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Bruins+former+Senator+McGrattan+waivers/3794602/story.html

I was so worried that Stanley was going to unleash the fury of McGrattan's pilonishness on my team Thursday night... 

Schooled again, Stanley ?

BTW, has anyone noticed McGrattan's been sent to Providence?

Hopefully he'll stay there for a good while and put an end to any discussion about playing him.

TJ Oshie is a solid brick house! He has a job to do & he does it very well & could end up getting even better. The guy knocked the biggest guy in the league on his but earlier in the game. He has the hitting game down & there's nothing wrong with the way he plays. IMO, McGrats just would've been another one that Osh would've knocked around. That kid isn't intimidated by ANYONE!
The poster that mentioned the equipment is part of the problem, but not all of it. These players are faster, stronger & better conditioned than any other athlete in the world of sports. I'm for the "old school" way too. Hit our star & we'll hit yours. I also on the other hand love the hit that Ryder laid on Sobatka when he was running around! Did a Blue come after Ryder after he did that? That's how you settle it & we didn't see much of Vladdy after that. Hunwick laid the body & knocked somebody down along the boards! Going after someone after everytime there's a big collison is ridiculous! It's not just the B's that impact players get smacked around & injured. The Cook on Savard hit & Richards on Krejci are not the same thing. Different games, different teams & different scerario's. The B's have the best pk in the league, but it won't be if we need to go after someone everytime a player gets hit! The Dallas game a couple of yrs ago, that got handled perfectly. The Blue's weren't pulling the same shananagins that Dallas was. They were forechecking hard, in constant puck pursuit & hitting any Bruin that got in their way! The B's when they play their game? They are the exact same way. That's hockey....No..That's smart hockey!
Btw- The Jones hit? Bergy helped with that by turning his body. Not saying Jones was right in the hit. He did have time to lay off on the impact, but in this game you can't & don't allow yourself to be in vulnerable positions either. Bergy turned his body to protect the puck. Which happens a lot. Players are told to responsible for each other, but they have to be responsible for themselves too.

The Hunwick hit nightmare refers to?  Yeah, on Oshie.  So Oshie knocks down Chara and is knocked down by Hunwick, which means it looks good for the smurfs in Mtl to knock down Hunwick, and then for Verne Troyer to knock down Gomez....

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I read exactly what you wrote and it seems you're  confused about my reply.First off,Krejci isn't Crosby and,as we saw the other night,Crosby and other rugged players don't always like having others fight their battles(he can handle himself).Everyone has had a teammate(or friend in general)who starts crap and expects someone else to clean it up.these are men playing a tough sport.I know from experience that most players prefer to get revenge on their own rather than having a big brother type stick up for them after every incident.after awhile you man up and deal with it yourself.am I the only one who remembers DK leaving his feet on a hit in the corner in the 3rd period?Should he have been attacked for it?Come on guys.This attitude is more embarrassing than taking a number and getting them next shift.And all you guys that tyhink the game and Bruins were so much tougher before should remember Bobby Orr had more PIMS than points in his career and Neely went after Ulf on his own.Neither guy wanted someone else to fight their battle because they're men not china dolls.

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Lane really must have grown this week.I do like him as a player though.Thornton isn't really cutting it lately.

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Mark Stuart, Johnny Boychuk, Milan Lucic, Zdeno Chara? Brad Marchand, Patrice Bergeron? Actually most of the Bruins are quite capable of "finishing their checks on a consistent basis." 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOuiRgUVwQo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEgpMM5ApLI

I don't understand your point. If you want somebody who "opens the ice" for his teammates, I'd say Lucic is probably the best in the business (and Horton's not bad either). If you want an enforcer who takes on other players' bad guys (the Kaletas of the world), you've got Shawn Thornton. If you want a pest, you've got Marchand.

If you want a goon (Orr or Boogard) or a punk (Avery, Ott, Kaleta), I'd agree with the Bruins organization and say they're not worth the roster spot. 

Currently the league leaders number 50 -61 hits thus far.

The Bruins are led by S.Thornton with 27
                        and Milan Lucic with 26

most of the individual bruins numbers are way down the list, and for the most part are Dmen or 4th liners. There has been a troubling lack of overall commitment to aggressive forechecking and hitting in the offensive zone, and the numbers back it up early on this year.  

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www.boston.com/community/persona.html?UID=f93ab227636b76ce50b801a171d8b2b9&plckUserId=f93ab227636b76ce50b801a171d8b2b9"> Oshie's hit on Krejci was clean.

What a bunch of whiners here


I never have agreed with anything you have said--- UNTIL NOW!

Hockey is a Contact sport-- so is Football.  We are currently seing the "pussification" of the NFL brought on by ESPN blowing everything out of proportion to make a story.

I 'm sorry if other Bruins fans can't see it--- Oshie was just playing hockey the way it should be played.   As a Lifelong Bruins fan, I don't want to see Krecji get hurt, but for once, don't be blinded by the facts.

Oshie--- Clean Hit

Cooke--- Dirty Hit

There is a BIG difference.

I agree that T.J Oshie may have payed for the hit, but when you look at it, that hit was as clean as it gets Krejci's head hit the dasher after. Just happens to be bad luck.

Most of you are missing the point here ....I never said that Oshie's hit was not legal ...all I am saying is if Oshie would have hit Gretzky that way when he was with the Oilers...Semenko would have sent him directly to the hospital....

Why is it that ??  All our talented players get hit so hard from the opponents (Krejci twice, Bergeron, Savard) who's next Seguin, Marchand, (they only go after our small players) .....????  Is it because the visitors have no fear at the Garden ??? If so we need to upgrade our toughness level .....I dont think that any other team say The Black Hawks would accept that in 3 consecutive seasons they would lose Kane, Toews and Hossa with concussions from hard hits ( I wont say dirty hits because some of you will be offended) .....or what about ...whats wrong with you guys ....????? What happened to the Big Bad Bruins ?????   Chara needs to hit harder , Lucci needs to hit like he was doing in his 1st season, Thornton needs to become a scary player to play against ...and maybe the other teams will think twice before hitting our talented players .....and I am not debatting the nature of the Oshie's hit on Krejci but I can tell you 100% that he would have never hit Lucic that way even if Looch would have been in the same situation ......Enough said about that all I am to see is that the visitors start to think twice before hurting one of our talented player .....that's it that's all

Stanley Cup to the Bruins in 2011-2012-2013 (only if we start protecting our talented players)

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Toews was rocked by a similar hit last year with no repercussions so your point is moot.

The next time crap like that happens, I'd like to see Julien put out Thornton-Lucic-Marchand with Chara-Stuart and do something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAPhqXj_24I