Perfect timing to make an offer for Yakupov

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    NAS - remove his draft position and he still had an unreal junior career, pretty good international performance. great size, great skating, great tools, great offensive instincts. Him getting sat last year had more to do with the fact that he had played an absurd amount of hockey between junior and the NHL, and the fact that he's a righty. 




    So he's big, he can play hockey and he did well as a kid against other kids.

    He was sat last year because he was getting burned, not because he was tired.



    I think he was getting burned partly because he played so much hockey and as you say the latter part of the games he played were against men at the highest level of hockey being played. 



    It's really hard to evaluate a dman. I don't know if hamilton will be a star he shows potential but I'm not certain

    Enough to peg him s future norris. Lets just say I'm nit  convinced. Usually takes more time to develop ss s dman but subban would make a strong argument.  Too many dmen destined for stardom never panned out

    I.e  redden.phillps.johnson.rathjie. etc..

    Even hedberg hasn't lived up to his potential yet



    He sure has taken a long time to develop considering his draft position, size and hype. He still isn't considered elite, imo.

     
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    Hedman?  Ditto Larsson.  Gudbranson was #3 in the Hall/Seguin draft.

    Still laughing at "Viagra thread"

    "If you experience a thread that persists for more than four hours, see your doctor."

     
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    Hedman?  Ditto Larsson.  Gudbranson was #3 in the Hall/Seguin draft.

    Still laughing at "Viagra thread"

    "If you experience a thread that persists for more than four hours, see your doctor."



    HaHa, good one!

     
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    gudbranson and larsson are still developing. D men take longer to develop. Larsson is still on his entry level deal. Gudbranson is as well. I certainly don't think judgment should be passed on them yet. Same with Hamilton. Hedman may not have been the best selection, but he's clearly improving. 

    A guy i know that works in the front office of an NHL told me something interesting about the Hamilton draft. He said that in the top 10-15 teams often stray away from who they think will be the best players long term, and often draft who they think will provide the most value over their entry level contract. He went on to say that he thought most teams would have the same projections for the top 5 in terms of what they would turn out to be long term. 1. Larsson 2. Hamilton 3. Nugent-Hopkins 4. Landeskog 5. Huberdeau 

     
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    I'm not romanced by offensive talent the way marco is, so I'm in the camp that if you're going to move assets on this team, you move them to address this team's needs.  This team does not require a highly-skilled project who has struggled to produce in limited ice time on a terrible team; it does not need a guy who will only really develop if he plays in place of Jarome Iginla or Loui Eriksson even though, today, he is not the player either of them are (Eriksson's goal total aside).  What do they need?  If Bartkowski and Subban is the package for a significant upgrade in the lineup, bring it.

    But Yakupov is a highly skilled player who may never be more than a one-dimensional goal-scorer, if that.  Daigle is not the only highly touted kid to crash because the NHL is not major junior, and, while I would have to say that the trend is toward fewer and fewer top 5 busts over the last 10 years, there's a bit of a Russian flavour to the guys who do cack up: Svitov, Chistov, Zherdev, Filatov....

    Also, number 4 overall in 2005 was Benoit Pouliot.  I don't think that's relevant here - just wanted to note it because it's so stupid.

     
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    As a side note, you have to wonder if the improved draft performance at the top of the chart reflects the fact that Cliff Fletcher, Doug Risebrough, Doug MacLean and Pierre Page are out of the chair.

     
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    Re: Perfect timing to make an offer for Yakupov

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    I'm not romanced by offensive talent the way marco is, so I'm in the camp that if you're going to move assets on this team, you move them to address this team's needs.  This team does not require a highly-skilled project who has struggled to produce in limited ice time on a terrible team; it does not need a guy who will only really develop if he plays in place of Jarome Iginla or Loui Eriksson even though, today, he is not the player either of them are (Eriksson's goal total aside).  What do they need?  If Bartkowski and Subban is the package for a significant upgrade in the lineup, bring it.

    But Yakupov is a highly skilled player who may never be more than a one-dimensional goal-scorer, if that.  Daigle is not the only highly touted kid to crash because the NHL is not major junior, and, while I would have to say that the trend is toward fewer and fewer top 5 busts over the last 10 years, there's a bit of a Russian flavour to the guys who do cack up: Svitov, Chistov, Zherdev, Filatov....

    Also, number 4 overall in 2005 was Benoit Pouliot.  I don't think that's relevant here - just wanted to note it because it's so stupid.



    Good post.  Hopefully the 'climax' here...have a smoke...get some sleep...

     
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    filatov was such a weird case. 

     
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    people probably said the same thing about weber when he was 20. at that position, i'm not risking letting a young d man with that potential go. 

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    Especially for a stiff like Yucky! We just got rid of a "kid" who refused to grow up who was going to make over $6 mill a season. Good bye, farewell & good night. I say fawk the Yawk! 

     
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