Questions on the D-corps...

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    Questions on the D-corps...

    My preference would be to let Kaberle walk and sign someone like Wizniewski, but since it seems entirely possible that the B’s won’t sign any defensive FAs to start the season, I wanted to ask a few questions to the people here who see a lot more junior hockey and Providence hockey than I do.
     

    --How close is Hamilton?  My assumption is that he will go back to junior for another year, but is it plausible that he could land a 6th/7th defensemen role in Boston rotating with Kampfer perhaps?  Or maybe at least get the 9 game tryout before being sent back?  Or is he an obvious case of a guy who needs another year of junior (since he can’t play in Providence).

     

    --Did anyone watch Ryan Button much while he was in Providence?  He always seems to be left back in the discussion of the top defensive prospects.  He seems like such a great skater and a pretty good passer to me, from what I have seen.  Should he be behind Cohen and Bartkowski on the Providence call-up depth chart?

     
    --Anyone have any news about the Russians – Alexandrov and Chudinov?  Are they willing to toil in the AHL when better short-term opportunities may be had in the KHL?  If it’s the latter, should we stop drafting these guys?  
    Any/all insights are appreciated.
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    Good post Fletch . I'll comment on Hamilton since he is the only one I've seen play out of the players you've mentioned. I expect him back in St. Catharines to play for the Ice Dogs . But he has a couple of things going for him that might make the Bruins give him a look-see. Size (About 6'5" and 200 lbs.) and wheels. Both NHL caliber. But I truly think that the Bruins will not rush an 18 year old defenceman into the league when they have older players in Providence who could handle the 10 minutes a night if they were needed.
     
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    #habs trade James Wisniewski's rights to in return the recieve a 7th round pick in 2012 OR a 5th if Wiz signs with them!

    Well Wiz won't be back in Montreal. I'd like to see Wiz in Boston, for the right price. Good puck mover, plays well on the PP.

    Interesting to see if the B's get anything for Kaberle's rights.
     
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    Could someone tell me the contract staus of Brad Marchand

    I just want the Bruins to sign him they can not afford to screw that up. Could someone help me out what his contract status is. Is it an offersheet from another team the bruins will have to match. Second is Eric Cole a option ,
     
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    I say throw 2 years 10-11mil at Wizniewski with Kaberle, Savard(assumed), Ryder all coming off the books you'll have your money to Sign Krejci to 6mil and rask to 3.5-4.5 mil end of next year.
     
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    I wouldn't expect Dougie to make the NHL next year.  It's probably bad for his development and bad for the Bruins' cap since he will burn a year of entry level contract making minimal contributions.  I think our new Russian will be fine playing in the AHL since he has already come to North America to play junior.  They say he plays a western game.  I wouldn't mind a Wiz signing at a reasonable price.  I was surprisingly impressed with him for Montreal last year.
     
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    Plausible ? Yes Would I give any good odds that Hamilton could crack the Bruins lineup ? uh huh Doug goes back to the OHL.

    To me Alexandrov really needs to show what he can do with his skills this season. He has a full year now in North America time for him to show Bruins brass something. Bartkowski had a great preaseson last year I expect the same this year but another year in the AHL will do him good.

     
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    I'd love to see Hamilton step right in and contribute 14min a night, but they don't need him to do that, so it will only happen if he makes it impossible for them to send him down.

    Lot of D prospects there who need to do...something.  With Alexandrov, I would guess this is a make or break year in his head.  Either he plays some games and shows he belongs in the NHL this year, or he heads back to the K where he makes 10x an AHL salary.  If that happens, drafting Chudinov was a failed gamble.  Many of the others are primetime examples of how drafting D can try your patience.  Bruins drafted Cross a year after Lucic.  They drafted Alexandrov thirteen picks ahead of Lucic, and 34 picks ahead of Marchand - one year after they drafted Lashoff.  That seems like an eternity ago.

    So I'm trying to remember that D prospects require twice as much patience as Fwds, which means I'm trying to take heart that Button and Cohen are both good skaters with size, and that Cross has followed up all his injuries with some solid BC seasons (7 goals last year in 28 games - that's a 20 goal pace over 82!!!), that Bartkowski has shown flashes of being both a banger and a skater, and that Alexandrov is barely out of Russia.  But my optimism runs up against our old thread that extended AHL time usually means a player is stalled, not that he will slowly grow into an NHL stalwart.
     
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    [QUOTE]I say throw 2 years 10-11mil at Wizniewski with Kaberle, Savard(assumed), Ryder all coming off the books you'll have your money to Sign Krejci to 6mil and rask to 3.5-4.5 mil end of next year.
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    They could be 3rd pairing...at 10 mill combined??...you should be GM of the Leafs.
     
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    [QUOTE] --How close is Hamilton ?   My assumption is that he will go back to junior for another year, but is it plausible that he could land a 6 th /7 th defensemen role in Boston rotating with Kampfer perhaps?   Or maybe at least get the 9 game tryout before being sent back?   Or is he an obvious case of a guy who needs another year of junior (since he can’t play in Providence ).  
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    I think Doug Hamilton will spend the first nine games in Boston and then get sent back.  They wouldn't want to waste a year of his ELC on spot duty.
     
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    "But my optimism runs up against our old thread that extended AHL time usually means a player is stalled, not that he will slowly grow into an NHL stalwart"

    That's my fear as well goes back to that wishful posting that used to get typed on this board "If Sobotka had Wheels frame or Blake had Vlad's heart". If Kampfer had Cross's frame or if Alexandrov had McQuaid's toughness.

    What we know is again defensman take longer than forwards in some cases.
     
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    there are a couple of threads on this same subject with lots of questions, but no obvious answers except back to juniors for Hamilton. The real question is how well does the coaching, at Providence, prepare these young players? Cassidy has an extensive resume, and, from other reports, he focused on the defensemen and gave the bruins Kamfer and Bartkowski. Would it be a great move to re-hire Ramsey to work with Cassidy?
     
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    Thanks to all for the info.  I agree that Hamilton might well get the 9 game 'taste' but probably not anymore.  Maybe Cross or Warsofsky will 'wow' everyone at camp, and I hope that Button comes in competitive too.


    I hope Cassidy brings more success to Providence too.  I don't care much about wins and losses there, but it would be nice to see one or two players make a big leap forward in the AHL.  I don't think we've seen that in a while.

     
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    Chara, Seidenberg, Boychuk, Ference, McQuaid .. and ?

    We could use a PP specialist.  Is there still talk that Zach Bogosian may be available?
     
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    Hamilton is more than likely going back to the Ice Dogs.  The Bruins are in a position with five legit NHL defenseman under contract for next year (Chara, Seidenberg, Ferrence, Mcquiad and Boychuck) as well as guys in Providence that can compete for the 6th/7th defenseman roles.

    Would Hamilton be better served bulking up his body, playing big minutes next year in Junior in all situations or playing sparingly as a bottom pairing d-man on the Bruins next year with Claude holding him back?  I'm going to assume it's the former scenario that the Bruins prefer as it pertains to Hamilton.

    The Providence/Prospect crew which includes Kampfer Cohen, Warsofsky, Bartowski, Chudinov, Cross, Button, Alexandrov and Cantin is solid enough but not one of these guys (beyond Hamilton of course) project to be anything more than 4-7 type D-Men.

    Of these guys Kampfer, Warsofsky and Bartowski are the most likely candidates to push for Big Club roster spots next year and or to serve as trade bait to bring in a 1-3 type of D-Man at the trade deadline. 

    Kampfer and Warsofsky are on the smallish side but both skate well and could contribute offensively from the blue line.  Bartowski is bigger and more physical. He is a very good open ice hitter.  He's not the greatest skater but neither are guys that have similar size and skill sets as him like Boychuck and Mcquaid.

    The Russians, Alexandrov has to up his game and improve his strength or he might just go down as another wasted pick. He has the talent and skill to be an NHL defenseman he just hasn't put it all together to date.  He will play big minutes in Providence this year and needs to show he is ready to make a significant jump. Chudinov is not on the development camp roster and isn't likely to play in North America this year.  He has talent but is undersized and certainly can't be considered an option to play for the Bruins any sooner than 2013 if at all.  Unfortunately he and Alexandrov have KHL written all over them.

    Cohen and Button will both play big roles in Providence next year. Cohen is a big body that has some offensive upside.  Not overly physical for his size though.  Button skates extremely well and would have to be considered more of an offensive d-man than a shut down one. Both players should play in the NHL at some point whether it be for the Bruins or another organization.

    Cross is a jack of all trades type of d-man.  He's got size but is not overly physical.  He's not a great skater but not a terrible one either. He does have some offense to his game. Injuries more than anything else have stunted his development. It's possible Cross plays for the Providence Bruins next year but more than likely returns to Boston College for his junior year and joins the P-B's at the end of year.

    Cantin is more of a stay at home guy. Went un-drafted and played as an overage player in Juniors last year for Mississauga.  Could be a 5/6 d-man type in a couple of years if he develops. 

    All the other d-men in the Bruins organization at the AHL/Junior level probably aren't worth discussing.
     

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