Reilly Smith

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    Don't think Kelly is a good comparable either.  Smith may not ever play the NHL games that Kelly has, but he is a pure goal scorer.  He isn't a center either.  Nothing about his game would really remind you of Kelly.




    I think you guys must be thinking of some other Smith.

     

    Look up the records for "Reilly" Smith. This guy has never been close to a big time scorer, anywhere.

    He's a good skater, with some hockey sense and can score sometimes. Period. If that is not Chris Kelly - shoot me now.

    By the way, this guy is a toothpick. He better put on some weight and keep it on.

     




    Kid scored 58 goals in 77gp in his last two seasons @ Miami. 

     
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    he led the CCHA in goal scoring and scoring his junior year. He had 22 goals (only counting in conference games), nobody else had more than 15. He had 1.19 points per game. 

     

    He was second in goal scoring his junior year, for the entire NCAA, the only person in front of him played for colgate, in a MUCH weaker conference playing against much weaker competition. 

     

    i think you might have the wrong reilly smith. 

     
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    Maybe Seguin has hacked the BDC account of Don Bruino?

     

     
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    ya, this is weird. he's right waaaay more frequently than he's wrong. this is pretty black and white. scoring winger vs checking center 

     
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    he led the CCHA in goal scoring and scoring his junior year. He had 22 goals (only counting in conference games), nobody else had more than 15. He had 1.19 points per game. 

     

    He was second in goal scoring his junior year, for the entire NCAA, the only person in front of him played for colgate, in a MUCH weaker conference playing against much weaker competition. 

     

    i think you might have the wrong reilly smith. 

     



    Miami of Ohio doesn't qualify anyone, even if he scores 2 goals a game, as a sniper.

     

    Ask Dave Poulin?

    Sorry guys, but I disagree. Don't get your hopes up too high.

    No-one this guy has played with has made past college hockey. And none in midget had more than a sniff in OHL

     
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    It's going to be Ok Wheat.





     
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    Wheat, I think the problem here is that you're disagreeing about what kind of player he is and then saying the reason you disagree is that the stats don't apply because he plays CCHA.

    Whatever the league, if you lead it in goals and scoring, your game is scorer.  Will he be able to do it in the NHL?  Time will tell, but that's a different animal than saying he's more of a Chris Kelly type.  The year Kelly had 36 goals, the top 5 goal scorers in the OHL had more than 50 including 58 by Harold Druken.  Of the top 10 goal scorers that year, though, the best NHL career belongs to Sheldon Keefe.  So it's not like scoring in the OHL immediately translates either.

     

     

    Are you not entertained?!?!

     
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    Wheat, I think the problem here is that you're disagreeing about what kind of player he is and then saying the reason you disagree is that the stats don't apply because he plays CCHA.

    Whatever the league, if you lead it in goals and scoring, your game is scorer.  Will he be able to do it in the NHL?  Time will tell, but that's a different animal than saying he's more of a Chris Kelly type.  The year Kelly had 36 goals, the top 5 goal scorers in the OHL had more than 50 including 58 by Harold Druken.  Of the top 10 goal scorers that year, though, the best NHL career belongs to Sheldon Keefe.  So it's not like scoring in the OHL immediately translates either.

     

     

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    perfectly put, and kudos on the research

     
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    and btw danny heatley couldn't even top those in that league. Neither could Parise (WCHA, but pretty similar leagues), nor could Kessel, or toews. Not saying this guy will be anything like those players, but it means that at that level at least, he can score with the best of them. 

     
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    Chris Kelly has never been a big time goal scorer. That's always what Smith has been

     




    In what leagues has Smith been a big time scorer?

     

    You do know Kelly scored 36 one year in the OHL? That is a much higher level than Miami.



    Actually it's not a higher level. College hockey features older and stronger players. In particular, the Canadian university champs would likely beat the Memorial champs quite handily. 

     
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    Chris Kelly has never been a big time goal scorer. That's always what Smith has been

     

     




    In what leagues has Smith been a big time scorer?

     

     

    You do know Kelly scored 36 one year in the OHL? That is a much higher level than Miami.

     



    Actually it's not a higher level. College hockey features older and stronger players. In particular, the Canadian university champs would likely beat the Memorial champs quite handily. 

     



    i don't know about that. the US national development program (plays in the USHL) plays a lot of college teams (or at least they used to), and they would either play a very close game, or win handily. They never got crushed. I would guess that most major junior teams would crush the US national development program

     
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    Chris Kelly has never been a big time goal scorer. That's always what Smith has been

     

     

     




    In what leagues has Smith been a big time scorer?

     

     

     

    You do know Kelly scored 36 one year in the OHL? That is a much higher level than Miami.

     

     



    Actually it's not a higher level. College hockey features older and stronger players. In particular, the Canadian university champs would likely beat the Memorial champs quite handily. 

     

     

     



    i don't know about that. the US national development program (plays in the USHL) plays a lot of college teams (or at least they used to), and they would either play a very close game, or win handily. They never got crushed. I would guess that most major junior teams would crush the US national development program

     



    I'm not talking about the development program. I'm talking about full university teams that are together all year. Canadian university hockey in particular is made up mostly of players who had outgrown the CHL. This is due mostly to the free education offered to players for each year of CHL hockey. I'll pick the CIS champions to beat the Memorial Cup champs almost every year. Men against boys.

     

     
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    hmm. interesting. I didn't know that canadian university was that good. The development program normally beats the full year universities in the US, even the top notch ones. I once took in a game where the US team deserved to win, but lost to eventual national champion BC 5-4. The only canadian colleges I've seen play are Xavier, who normally come down to play UMass as kind of a "warm up" exhibition game where UMass gets a look at a few younger players to decide if they should be put in the lineup. The other is McGill. How do you think Canadian Universities (the better ones) stack up to American college hockey?

     
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    hmm. interesting. I didn't know that canadian university was that good. The development program normally beats the full year universities in the US, even the top notch ones. I once took in a game where the US team deserved to win, but lost to eventual national champion BC 5-4. The only canadian colleges I've seen play are Xavier, who normally come down to play UMass as kind of a "warm up" exhibition game where UMass gets a look at a few younger players to decide if they should be put in the lineup. The other is McGill. How do you think Canadian Universities (the better ones) stack up to American college hockey?

     



    Here's an interesting article regarding the CIS program. To answer your question, I think the average player in CIS would be better but that the best teams from each league would be quite comparable. 

     

     

    http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/9/4/2403506/cis-hockey-underutilized-scouting

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Kind of have to agree with Wheat here, scoring in colleges is one thing but doing it at the NHL level is another thing. Before we get too crazy and too high of hopes for these prospects, let's just see if any of the three make the team first. Right now they are being considered by some as throw ins for the trade until they prove otherwise. Hard to argue with that assessment at this time.

     
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    Kind of have to agree with Wheat here, scoring in colleges is one thing but doing it at the NHL level is another thing. Before we get too crazy and too high of hopes for these prospects, let's just see if any of the three make the team first. Right now they are being considered by some as throw ins for the trade until they prove otherwise. Hard to argue with that assessment at this time.



    JP, there's no doubt that players need to prove it from one level to the next but Wheats is acting like this is a kid coming up from Jr. B yet college hockey has been developing players for a long time. We can say the exact same thing regarding every player drafted this year. They all need to prove they're capable of taking the next step. 

     
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    Kind of have to agree with Wheat here, scoring in colleges is one thing but doing it at the NHL level is another thing. Before we get too crazy and too high of hopes for these prospects, let's just see if any of the three make the team first. Right now they are being considered by some as throw ins for the trade until they prove otherwise. Hard to argue with that assessment at this time.



    ya, but that's not the point. he is a goal scorer. if he was playing jr C in wherever but he led the league in goals, his role is a scorer. He's not a defensive specialist centermen, he's a high scoring winger. only question left is whether or not he will be successful at that in the NHL

     
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    Kind of have to agree with Wheat here, scoring in colleges is one thing but doing it at the NHL level is another thing.



    That's right Parise scored 18 goals in his 1st year in the AHL. Good thing Zach wasn't measured on just that and given a chance in the NHL after.

     
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    Kind of have to agree with Wheat here, scoring in colleges is one thing but doing it at the NHL level is another thing. Before we get too crazy and too high of hopes for these prospects, let's just see if any of the three make the team first. Right now they are being considered by some as throw ins for the trade until they prove otherwise. Hard to argue with that assessment at this time.




    It's called progression. No one (except me ) is crazy here. People are posting some interesting facts and stats..without any red flags. And yes, time will tell.

     
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    There's a lot to like about Reilly's career progression so far.  He was an elite player in college, and made a solid transition to the AHL with 35pts in 45gp (.77ppg).  He was then given a good chance at the NHL level, playing in 37 games and scoring 9 points.  I liken his career progress to Marchand and Krug, the Bruins two best rookies in the last number of years.  Marchand dominated in Junior, arrived in providence and scored 59 in 79 (.74ppg).  He got the call up the next year playing 20 NHL games and only 3 points but getting his feet wet.  The next year he earned a spot and delivered 40 pts.  He was 22yrs old when he earned his spot.  Smith is now 22 and has shown he can exel at college and the AHL. He's experienced what it takes to play in the NHL.  If he truly has NHL skills, now will be the time for him to show it.  If he can deliver anywhere close to Marchand's skill, the trade goes from dubious to a solid win for the Bruins.  Most seem to think he's a potential 20-25 goal guy so he could round out the lineup very nicely, and contributing this year is realistic.

     
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    What would be some realistic stats at the end of the year if Reilly were to win a spot on the 4th line ?





     
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    Maybe Seguin has hacked the BDC account of Don Bruino?

     




    ROFL. Post of the month.

     
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    We'll be able to see pretty directly soon enough in regards to CIS vs. NCAA. SFU used to have a very very good high level CIS hockey team, but the program got gutted when SFU went from CIS to NCAA because division 2 out west here doesn't have hockey. They're working on getting permission to play hockey in Division 1. If they get that clearance there's no reason to think they can't re-up their program to the same level as before, and it may be even better as it will be the only school in Canada that would give kids a chance to play in the NCAA without having to go to an American school, so that could be a great recruiting tool.

    Personally I've always given the edge to Division 1 over CIS - I grew up watching both the Bisons and the Fighting Sioux - top teams in both leagues, and I always thought UND was better than U of M

     
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    More and more players in the NHL are coming for the college ranks these days. Lets not hold the fact that they put up good numbers while in College against them.

    The Bruins probably had their eye on him before he was drafted, didnt pick him but like how his game has progressed.




     
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    More and more players in the NHL are coming for the college ranks these days. Lets not hold the fact that they put up good numbers while in College against them.

    The Bruins probably had their eye on him before he was drafted, didnt pick him but like how his game has progressed.






    i also think the bruins are way better at evaluating talent after a player turns pro rather than before. 

     
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