Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from yaz16. Show yaz16's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]Savvy didn't cost us this game.   1. I counted about 11 shots on our part that sailed wide, including a hit post by Horton. 2. I counted only 3 Flyers shots that missed the goal. 3. Thomas DID outplay Boucher because he faced tougher quality shots. GO back and watch the game folks. 4. We failed to to do much of anything, let alone score on a 5 minute power play. 5. Record-wise we were playing worse before Savard returned. But, let's get down to brass tacks: Our 2 best wingers are on a line with Krejci.   --Savard can't get s**t done with Ryder on his line. --Bergey can't get s**t done with Wheeler on his line. = time to mix things up , Claude, or we're gonna be the 1-0, 2-1 team for the rest of the season.
    Posted by ipot[/QUOTE]

    agreed. Why not put Savard and Bergeron on the same line and even better with Seguin?

    Recchi Wheeler and Ryder as the third line can do their job in addition. Wheeler and Ryder are third line players

    Its time for guys like Savard and Bergeron to earn their paychecks. They have to produce
     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from SanDogBrewin. Show SanDogBrewin's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:[QUOTE]Team is 4-0-2 with Savvy in the lineup... so relax. If Seguin was playing tonight, I think we would have won in regulation. Sad to see Sturm go... this team needs offense. Posted by Bruinfaninnewjersey[/QUOTE]

    Thank you NJ for typing the Bruins record with Marc back in the lineup.

    Bim09 "Ryder alone in the slot with a Santa pass from Savy. This game was lost on execution."

    Cowboys9 "What cost us the game was not scoring on a 5 minute power play.. sorry but you have to bury one or two there and make Flyers pay."

    You will lose against teams like the Flyers, Canadiens and Penquins everytime if you don't bury chances everytime.
     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from SanDogBrewin. Show SanDogBrewin's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:[QUOTE]This is Marc Savard. Careless, selfish passes that sometimes work & as we seen tonight sometimes don't work. The guy has got to use his head. Lets not forget his terrible play on the 1st goal either. People say Savard is a great passer & he is but he is also a turnover machine who trys way to many low % plays. He was like that before he got the concussion. Posted by Newfiebullet[/QUOTE]

    Your boy David Krejci is lighting it up huh ?

    PP Goals:      0
    PP Goals:      0
    PP Points:     2
    PP Point %:      10.0
    PP TOI/Game:    3:17

    Oh yah.....Give David some more koolaid!
     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from cowboys9. Show cowboys9's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]Wally, the bruins had the same PP problem then always have when they face a unit that applies pressure.. The bruins are 12th in a 30 team leagues, so its working OK, but when they play teams that pressure on the PK the bruins don't respond well, they dont need to work on the pp so much as work on the pp when they are not being given time to make decisions..
    Posted by rolerhoky19[/QUOTE]

    Don't worry about the PP , we have Geoff Ward looking after it .. He will figure it out ( insert sarcasm to the max ) .. If I could hire Wayne Gretzky today just for the PP I would .. This guy's system and execution is what stops the Bruins from being top 5 in PP where it has to be to make sure other teams respect them..Until that changes then it will be same old , same old..
     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from Canadianfan6. Show Canadianfan6's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    Bruins only scored one goal, that is why they lost
    Not because of Savard
    savard will be great come playoff time
    This was just another meaningless regular season game
     
  6. This post has been removed.

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from Newfiebullet. Show Newfiebullet's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly : Your boy David Krejci is lighting it up huh ? PP Goals:      0 PP Goals:      0 PP Points:     2 PP Point %:      10.0 PP TOI/Game:    3:17 Oh yah.....Give David some more koolaid!
    Posted by SanDogBrewin[/QUOTE]

    Yeah actually he is pretty hot right now. 7 points in his last 5 games while playing great defensively. Overall, 20 points in 21 games in a defence 1st system while actually taking care of his own end. + 10. Leading the only line that can consistently create any even strenght chances. All this while making 3.75 million. Yeah I think Krejci is doing pretty well.

    I notice you only showed his PP stats to fit your arguement. Don`t look pretty but how many adjustments have you seen on CJ`s PP in the last couple of years. Coaching is the main reason why the PP is struggling along with not having a Dman who can distribute the puck & make good decisions with the puck. Krejci will be fine on the PP as he further develops like most 24 yr old guys do.

    The fact that the Savard lovers continue to bring up the PP in an attempt to make Savard look good is quite concerning. Are you really happy with a guy who maybe quickly becoming a PP specialist (If that) signed for 6 more years after this one. I know I am not.
     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from TryToBearIt. Show TryToBearIt's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]you guys ever think of maybe it was boychucks agressiveness to jump way up in the offensive zone cost them the game? or maybe that nobody was on the point to cover for boychucks pinch? it was a good idea by savard, yes he should have looked but every hockey player would probably assume there is someone at the point behind them for support. give him a break, 5th game back recovering from post concussion syndrome.
    Posted by bruinsCupiN09[/QUOTE]

    Well put and exactly right. When the pass was made (and yes, he should have looked), I immediately thought it was the right thing to do b/c there in fact SHOULD have been someone there. Mistake by Savvy but as you point out--just his 5th game back...meaning he's essentially 5 games into what for anyone else would be training camp except he's doing it at the highest possible level.

    The haters will be exposed once Savard starts lighting it up in a few weeks. You won't hear anything from these same people who think a 2-1 OT loss to the Flyers in December was solely #91's fault (which it was not), and that it somehow "proves" he's a detriment to the team.
     
    Ridiculous.
     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from dezaruchi. Show dezaruchi's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly : Well put and exactly right. When the pass was made (and yes, he should have looked), I immediately thought it was the right thing to do b/c there in fact SHOULD have been someone there. Mistake by Savvy but as you point out--just his 5th game back...meaning he's essentially 5 games into what for anyone else would be training camp except he's doing it at the highest possible level. The haters will be exposed once Savard starts lighting it up in a few weeks. You won't hear anything from these same people who think a 2-1 OT loss to the Flyers in December was solely #91's fault (which it was not), and that it somehow "proves" he's a detriment to the team.   Ridiculous.
    Posted by TryToBearIt[/QUOTE]
    After the atlanta loss  you acted like the sky was falling claiming Boston probably wouldn't make the play-offs.Now you're taking positives from an OT loss.I'm in agreement with you on this but still say pick a side and stick to it.Arguing both sides of an argument is great for the debating team  but seems foolish here.I like Savard but let's not act like that was the only terrible pass he made last night.You mentioned the awful effort on the 5min PP.Well Savard coughed  the puck up 3 times on that PP so don't act like everyone else is the reason for a failed PP.
     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from TryToBearIt. Show TryToBearIt's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    After the atlanta loss  you acted like the sky was falling claiming Boston probably wouldn't make the play-offs.Now you're taking positives from an OT loss.I'm in agreement with you on this but still say pick a side and stick to it.Arguing both sides of an argument is great for the debating team  but seems foolish here.I like Savard but let's not act like that was the only terrible pass he made last night.You mentioned the awful effort on the 5min PP.Well Savard coughed  the puck up 3 times on that PP so don't act like everyone else is the reason for a failed PP.

    I see. So you're upset b/c you claim I "argue both sides of an argument" and yet within this same exact post you just made you say "I'm in agreement with you on this" (regarding Savard), and THEN you go on to call out Sabard for "coughing up the puck 3 times" on the 5 min. PP.....so which is it??? Why don't YOU pick a side and stick with it????

    Fact is, each post I respond to is based on a different topic. This one is about the haters blaming an OT loss on one player who's 5 games back from a serious concussion and arguing (unbelievably) that perhaps the Bruins are better off w/out him....In the very same game a terrible pass by Wheeler at the opposing blue line also led to a Flyer chance the other way and if not for a sprawling Thomas save could have handed the game to Phully as well.

    My other point after the Atlanta loss was that the Bruins as currently staffed are NOT going to win the Stanley Cup AND if they keep playing games like that and are not bailed out by the likes of Thomas in net can forget the playoffs as well.

    I still stick to both those points: 1) THIS current Bruins team is NOT good enough to win the Cup. They will NOT beat Pitt, Wash., Philly, Montreal, or likely Atlanta in a series. That's my opinion. You have yours, we'll see who's right.

    2) Without the best goalie in the league so far this year, who has pulled their a**ses out of the fire so many times I've lost count, the Bruins would likely be fighting w/Ottowa and the other bottom half of the conference for that 8 spot. That's how I see it.

    I like what PC has done to clear some salary and if he can clear more (bye bye Wheeler--I don't care for who or what), bye bye Paille--totally useless...and then use the money to bring in a game-changer at deadline...perhaps a serious defenseman who can provide offense as well...I like their chances better b/c Savard WILL improve...IF TT stays healthy they're strong in net, and they do have some good parts in Krejci, Horton, Looch, etc....(It would also help if Seguin was let off the leash more and allowed to play more minutes and w/more skileld players.)

    So does that finally spell it out for you? I have no beef with you personally but you keep going after me post after post trying to bait me into some sort of flame war and I'm just not interested.

    I believe you are a Bruins fan and want them to succeed. Whether you believe me or not, I weant the very same thing. I just tend to see the glass half empty w/this team and have the facts to back me up b/c time and again they have failed to put the best team possible on the ice, and I don't think that's changed this year.

    I have explained ad nauseum to this juncture how I feel about this team. If you want to nit pick at every post I make that's focused on a sepcific topic and harken it back to a totally different post/topic and try to say I have no credibility as a result, more power to you. I don't hit the ignore button on anyone b/c I believe in free speech. I also believe in truly and genuinely LISTENING to what other people have to say to come to an understanding. If you have it within you to do the same, great...maybe one day we can both be posting about how amazing it is that after 38 years of futility, our mutual favorite hockey team has finally won the Stanley Cup.
     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from BsLegion. Show BsLegion's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    SmokingJoe,  I like your posts during Pat games but you're in left field with this one.
    Heck,  put Paille on a line with Crosby and he'll lose his marbles also.
    Agree it was a bad pass,  it happens. Just before that Wheeler made a bad pass at the blue line . It just was not meant to be .
    Hey,  it's not like we lost to the Islanders on a bad back pass and it's not like the back pass went to a Joe Smoe , it was Richards.  I didn't hear his name the whole game ... he got the winner . Fine,  this is the team, the Flyers, that everyone is betting will go to the final.
     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from dezaruchi. Show dezaruchi's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    SIn Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]After the atlanta loss  you acted like the sky was falling claiming Boston probably wouldn't make the play-offs.Now you're taking positives from an OT loss.I'm in agreement with you on this but still say pick a side and stick to it.Arguing both sides of an argument is great for the debating team  but seems foolish here.I like Savard but let's not act like that was the only terrible pass he made last night.You mentioned the awful effort on the 5min PP.Well Savard coughed  the puck up 3 times on that PP so don't act like everyone else is the reason for a failed PP. I see. So you're upset b/c you claim I "argue both sides of an argument" and yet within this same exact post you just made you say "I'm in agreement with you on this" (regarding Savard), and THEN you go on to call out Sabard for "coughing up the puck 3 times" on the 5 min. PP.....so which is it??? Why don't YOU pick a side and stick with it???? Fact is, each post I respond to is based on a different topic. This one is about the haters blaming an OT loss on one player who's 5 games back from a serious concussion and arguing (unbelievably) that perhaps the Bruins are better off w/out him....In the very same game a terrible pass by Wheeler at the opposing blue line also led to a Flyer chance the other way and if not for a sprawling Thomas save could have handed the game to Phully as well. My other point after the Atlanta loss was that the Bruins as currently staffed are NOT going to win the Stanley Cup AND if they keep playing games like that and are not bailed out by the likes of Thomas in net can forget the playoffs as well. I still stick to both those points: 1) THIS current Bruins team is NOT good enough to win the Cup. They will NOT beat Pitt, Wash., Philly, Montreal, or likely Atlanta in a series. That's my opinion. You have yours, we'll see who's right. 2) Without the best goalie in the league so far this year, who has pulled their a**ses out of the fire so many times I've lost count, the Bruins would likely be fighting w/Ottowa and the other bottom half of the conference for that 8 spot. That's how I see it. I like what PC has done to clear some salary and if he can clear more (bye bye Wheeler--I don't care for who or what), bye bye Paille--totally useless...and then use the money to bring in a game-changer at deadline...perhaps a serious defenseman who can provide offense as well...I like their chances better b/c Savard WILL improve...IF TT stays healthy they're strong in net, and they do have some good parts in Krejci, Horton, Looch, etc....(It would also help if Seguin was let off the leash more and allowed to play more minutes and w/more skileld players.) So does that finally spell it out for you? I have no beef with you personally but you keep going after me post after post trying to bait me into some sort of flame war and I'm just not interested. I believe you are a Bruins fan and want them to succeed. Whether you believe me or not, I weant the very same thing. I just tend to see the glass half empty w/this team and have the facts to back me up b/c time and again they have failed to put the best team possible on the ice, and I don't think that's changed this year. I have explained ad nauseum to this juncture how I feel about this team. If you want to nit pick at every post I make that's focused on a sepcific topic and harken it back to a totally different post/topic and try to say I have no credibility as a result, more power to you. I don't hit the ignore button on anyone b/c I believe in free speech. I also believe in truly and genuinely LISTENING to what other people have to say to come to an understanding. If you have it within you to do the same, great...maybe one day we can both be posting about how amazing it is that after 38 years of futility, our mutual favorite hockey team has finally won the Stanley Cup.
    Posted by TryToBearIt[/QUOTE]
    So by agreeing Savard deserves more time to work the kinks out and then pointing out the kinks that are there I'm arguing both sides and "baiting" you?Look,I just think you're quick to jump the gun when things go awry and then not stand by it.It sure would be nice to discuss a cup win after 38 years as I have no specific beef with you.But I suggest,along with listening to others,you think about and pay attention to what you're saying.All of a sudden you now have facts to back up this half-empty glass theory?What are they?Look,I don't want to battle with you all season.I just want continuity with an argument.
     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from TryToBearIt. Show TryToBearIt's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]SIn Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly : So by agreeing Savard deserves more time to work the kinks out and then pointing out the kinks that are there I'm arguing both sides and "baiting" you?Look,I just think you're quick to jump the gun when things go awry and then not stand by it.It sure would be nice to discuss a cup win after 38 years as I have no specific beef with you.But I suggest,along with listening to others,you think about and pay attention to what you're saying.All of a sudden you now have facts to back up this half-empty glass theory?What are they?Look,I don't want to battle with you all season.I just want continuity with an argument.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    Here's continuity: Wen things go awry I point out that it's not just a bump in the road. This team is not good enough to end the 38-year drought (those are the facts I'm referring to...whatever you want to say about the Bruins--the facts are they have not delivered on what the other 3 major sports franchises in Boston have--a championship....until one is delivered--and yes, I know it's difficult--the facts back me up that this team/franchise continues to under-achieve.)

    When the Bruins turn in clunkers like they did against Car. & Atl. my point is that it's indicative of an overall weakness in yet another version of a Bruins team destined for at best a 2nd round playoff KO.....and without the stellar play of Thomas (and maybe Rask), quite possibly another DNQ. Over the past couple of weeks the field of those fighting for the 8th spot has dropped off significantly, giving the B's a much better shot at being safe for a playoff berth....but I personally believe that has more to do w/the deficiencies of Buff., Ott, Fla. etc., than it does w/the strength of a Bruins squad that just has too many gaping holes to be truly successful as it stands RIGHT NOW. I'm perfectly willing to wait and see if things change near the trade deadline and I'm giving PC a chance to show that letting Sturm go for nothing will pay off w/a smart acquisition, but we'll see.

    But I think I've been pretty da*m consistent in saying this Bruins team is NOT good enough to do the only thing I want it to do--and that's win hockey's greatest prize.

    Are we on  a level of understanding, if not the same page, yet?
     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from dezaruchi. Show dezaruchi's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly : Here's continuity: Wen things go awry I point out that it's not just a bump in the road. This team is not good enough to end the 38-year drought (those are the facts I'm referring to...whatever you want to say about the Bruins--the facts are they have not delivered on what the other 3 major sports franchises in Boston have--a championship....until one is delivered--and yes, I know it's difficult--the facts back me up that this team/franchise continues to under-achieve.) When the Bruins turn in clunkers like they did against Car. & Atl. my point is that it's indicative of an overall weakness in yet another version of a Bruins team destined for at best a 2nd round playoff KO.....and without the stellar play of Thomas (and maybe Rask), quite possibly another DNQ. Over the past couple of weeks the field of those fighting for the 8th spot has dropped off significantly, giving the B's a much better shot at being safe for a playoff berth....but I personally believe that has more to do w/the deficiencies of Buff., Ott, Fla. etc., than it does w/the strength of a Bruins squad that just has too many gaping holes to be truly successful as it stands RIGHT NOW. I'm perfectly willing to wait and see if things change near the trade deadline and I'm giving PC a chance to show that letting Sturm go for nothing will pay off w/a smart acquisition, but we'll see. But I think I've been pretty da*m consistent in saying this Bruins team is NOT good enough to do the only thing I want it to do--and that's win hockey's greatest prize. Are we on  a level of understanding, if not the same page, yet?
    Posted by TryToBearIt[/QUOTE]
    So it's a case of Boston not being as bad as those other teams rather than better than them.I can't believe I couldn't understand that.No wonder,I'm a very simple man
     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from scooter244. Show scooter244's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly : So can we use that excuse everytime Ryder, Paille, Wheeler or anyone else makes a mistake or only Marc Savard? It was a dumb play. He had Krejci & Boychuk directly in front of him in the corner & made a no look pass to the point "hoping" Seidenberg would be there. An absolute moronic play. Lets not forget his play on the philly first goal. You are right that people make mistakes but to say " At least he was trying to do something to win the game. " is letting him off the hook to easily. He has to keep the puck deep in that situation or at least look to see if Seidenberg is in position to pick up the puck.
    Posted byNewfiebullet[/QUOTE]

    Terrible pass, horrible pass.  Dumb pass.  Agreed.  The first two words of my sentence.."At Least" tell how I feel about it, meaning the one and only good thing.  I'd rather see a guy make a mistake trying to make something happen in OT rather than  being afraid to make a mistake.  I see a lot of complaining about CJ's conservative system, benching guys who make mistakes, stifling Seguin's creativity which I agree with.  The "system", while effective, makes them low scoring, at times boring, and I think unable to beat the better teams.  I want to see some creativity.  Savard's game is risk/reward.  Even when on top of his game he makes mistakes.  But, he makes things happen too.  I'm willing to cut him some slack on the "pass" given all the circumstances.  He does that in game 7 of the cup finals I'll be the one holding the rope. 
     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from nitemare-38. Show nitemare-38's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    I don't think Savvy cost the game. It's a 4 on 4 5 min OT. The league implemented this to open up the game & for teams to "take chances for the extra point" Was it a bad pass? Sure it was, but there's far too many other things to worry about this team then Savvy's passing abilities! I'm on Try to bear it's side on this one. Btw- I don't blame Boychuk's pinch either. The B's actually did the right thing. They were going for the WIN! They were aggressive, they were hungry & they put faith into TT. Not TT's fault- A 3 on 1 is tough for a goalie. So mutch is running thru your mind on those. It was a tough one to lose, but I appreciated the "lets go for it" game plan. It actually showed this team has SOME character & is willing to try & open up a defense first type of system.
    I'm taking this as a gamble & they lost. The whole point of the 4 on 4 is to make the mistakes & those mistakes are meant to be magnified so that the chances will increase.
     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from seobrien. Show seobrien's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    Bad pass, but not the (sole) reason they lost...by any stretch.
    ...but Savard had to know Boychuck was low, meaning Seidenberg would be playing in the middle. I'll chalk that up to just returning. Sounds funny to say this, but it seems he forgot it was 4-4. Sometimes I scream for that exact play in 5 on 5 situations.
    ...but the B's had plenty of chances to win and lose that game prior to that point.
     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from jcour382. Show jcour382's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    his timing is off.. but he always had a nack for giveaways like that... sidenberg seems to be having that problem lately as well...   sturm who cares we have plenty of those players....

    because they have some depth maybe who ever is playing like crap...should ride the bench..not just the rookies... i think they aren't physical enough... theres not alot of good hitting unless it is the b's getting hit...

    i would like to see sequin/marchand and wheeler on a line together...  lots of speed...some scoring potential?? would cause problems for opposing d's..
     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from BsLegion. Show BsLegion's posts

    Re: Savard Cost us the Game against Philly

    Did any of you see Spezza's pass last night in OT ?  Almost a carbon copy when it comes to backhand blind passes.
    Savvy is not the first nor will he be the last .  One day he'll do a blind pass to Chara and he'll belt it in on a slap shot to win in OT and all of sudden he's a hero again .  Come to think of it he did this 2 years ago in the playoffs against Montreal.
     
Sections
Shortcuts

Share