Shots on goal overrated

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    Ottawa fired 31 shots on Thomas tonight but how many scoring opportunities did they really have.......1 or 2 maybe?Boston's team defence was outstanding tonight.How often do you see a goalie get a shutout and be only 2nd star?
    Posted by dezaruchi



    Yup, as with many stats, it's how you spin it.
     
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    In Response to Shots on goal overrated : Yup, as with many stats, it's how you spin it.
    Posted by BadHabitude

    Too often there are complaints that Boston's D needs to tighten up because of high shot totals. Quality of shots is all that really matters.I think that Thomas would've been uset with himself had he allowed a goal tonight as he wasn't really tested very often.During last weeks game the commentators mentioned that the Wild have been outshot in every one of their 20 wins.
     
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    An OompaLoompa could have gotten a shut-out tonight the way Ottawa Played
     
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    Scoring chances are a better measure for sure.

    Did anyone have a problem with the B's playing their 4th line on the PP in the later stages of the game?
     
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    Scoring chances are a better measure for sure. Did anyone have a problem with the B's playing their 4th line on the PP in the later stages of the game?
    Posted by 4everbruins

    No.That was a classy move by CJ so as not to run up the score.Typical that Carkner and Neil still acted like  idiots.As if Paille wanted to fight Carkner.I was glad  Paille threw some extra shots and the refs chose not to penalize him for it.Refs kinda sent a message to Carkner by giving him an extra minor  and no extra for Paille.It's as if they were letting him know he deserved an extra couple of punches for acting like a goon in a 6-0 game.
     
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    2nd Star when Berg scores his hat trick twice.LOL

    I thought it was classy until clueless Clouson played his ashholes the whole end of the game knowing that Neil and Carkner were out for shiite.  Cj should have only sent ou Chara, Boychuk, Mcquaid, Thorn and Horton at the end.

    Kudos to Pail for battling a battle he was not going to win.

    March and Berg better not be seperated the rest of the season.

    Krej, Wheel and Seg are starting to look good together, Seg maybe coming into his own quicker than expected if left with these 2.

    Sav's game is coming along fine, still too many back or blind passes, but he could have easily had 5 assists tonight, Hort is badly snake bit, but he played a great physical game.

    TT was not overly challenged but he did earn his shutout with a little help from 2 posts.

    Ference was a plus 4 for those wondering and solid defensively, with a nice elbow, wish it had been Neil.
     
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    In Response to Re: Shots on goal overrated : No.That was a classy move by CJ so as not to run up the score.Typical that Carkner and Neil still acted like  idiots.As if Paille wanted to fight Carkner.I was glad  Paille threw some extra shots and the refs chose not to penalize him for it.Refs kinda sent a message to Carkner by giving him an extra minor  and no extra for Paille.As if they were letting him know he deserved an extra couple of punches for acting like a goon in a 6-0 game.
    Posted by dezaruchi


    I'm not sure it was to avoid running up the score.  I think it was to say to the fourth line, "Hey, everyone else is scoring, why don't you give it a try?"
     
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    no question one of the easier shutouts, but in Thomas' defense, he did not allow rebounds, stopping most of the initial shots for either a stoppage of play or finishing the Ottawa offensive attack. The d-men did fine, but really the B's forwards controlled the game, the play was often in the Ottawa zone. There was one stretch where both teams did some free wheeling, which is fun to watch, but really it was a very easy win v. a very defeated team with a very defeated goalie.
     
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       The chance of this post existing, if Rask had been the starter, is less than zero.
     
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    LOL, bigskye. You're right, deza, was trying to downplay Thomas getting a shutout. If Rask had been the starting goalie, it would have been a post about why he needs to be the No. 1 goalie again. I figured it would be better to just analyze it without openly questioning dez, but hey, the truth is that biggskye is right.
     
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      Unless a goalie plays unbelievable, a shutout is more of a team achievement, which was the case tonight.
    There was nobody on here bragging about the play of Thomas tonight. Everyone recognized that it was a pretty easy game for him.
    I will just never understand why someone would feel compelled to start a thread that was an obvious attempt to lessen the value of the shutout.
     
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    Nice call bigskye..

     I liked the 4th line playing at the end, but Wondered if Paille was hurt marchand was playing his wing at the end.
    I would have liked to see the savard horton line playing more though (pp perhapds) just to see them break out and put something on the board.
     
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    In Response to Re: Shots on goal overrated : I'm not sure it was to avoid running up the score.  I think it was to say to the fourth line, "Hey, everyone else is scoring, why don't you give it a try?"
    Posted by Not-A-Shot

    Unwritten rule that you don't send out your top PP units in a game deemed out of reach.You notice even the 4th line stopped checking?The last 10 minutes looked like a non-contact rec league game.
     
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    Dez,
    I would hope they didnt stop checking, I understand your thinking, but that relates to little guys..

    The bruins have had a lot of areas to work on.. I would rather they focus on that, and continue to play.. I hated hearing houda says "we don't need anymore goals".. I am sure they approached the 3rd period of the montreal game with the same mentality.. Why not approach the game exactly the same, give other guys more opportunity, but don't let up.. This team has been to inconsistant to take the foot off the gas at any point..
     
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    LOL, bigskye. You're right, deza, was trying to downplay Thomas getting a shutout. If Rask had been the starting goalie, it would have been a post about why he needs to be the No. 1 goalie again. I figured it would be better to just analyze it without openly questioning dez, but hey, the truth is that biggskye is right.
    Posted by dannycater

    Absolutely wrong Fellows.You're looking for a problem where there is none.Did you guys read any of my posts after the Penguin game?Rask isn't free of being critiqued either and I've mentioned on here numerous times that both goalies benefit from playing behind a tight Boston D.This post is about team defence more than goaltending  but you guys feel free  to make it about whatever you want.
     
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    Dez, I would hope they didnt stop checking, I understand your thinking, but that relates to little guys.. The bruins have had a lot of areas to work on.. I would rather they focus on that, and continue to play.. I hated hearing houda says "we don't need anymore goals".. I am sure they approached the 3rd period of the montreal game with the same mentality.. Why not approach the game exactly the same, give other guys more opportunity, but don't let up.. This team has been to inconsistant to take the foot off the gas at any point..
    Posted by rolerhoky19


    Nah. 6-0 with 10 minutes left, it's ok to coast.

    EVERYTHING's ok when you're up 6-0 with 10 minutes left.

    2-0? Not so much.

    These dudes is gellin'.

     
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    Dez, I would hope they didnt stop checking, I understand your thinking, but that relates to little guys.. The bruins have had a lot of areas to work on.. I would rather they focus on that, and continue to play.. I hated hearing houda says "we don't need anymore goals".. I am sure they approached the 3rd period of the montreal game with the same mentality.. Why not approach the game exactly the same, give other guys more opportunity, but don't let up.. This team has been to inconsistant to take the foot off the gas at any point..
    Posted by rolerhoky19

    I'm not arguing that they should let up.I just think they did.I'm a little surprised you'd buy into Bigsskyes theory that this was an anti -Thomas post or an attempt to undervalue a shutout when,as I've clearly stated,this post was in support of the team defence as a whole.Not a surprise that the folks with TT posters on their wall think that heaping praise anywhere but directly on TT is blasphemy.Every post I've ever written is there for all to see(in support of both goalies)so I have no hidden agenda.Frankly I'm growing tired of the constant goalie debate and repeating myself for those that choose to only read what they feel is relevant to their argument.As far as the goaltending goes ,I'll no longer give an opinion.It's easier than contantly dealing with the crybabies on both sides of the argument.
     
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      Unless a goalie plays unbelievable, a shutout is more of a team achievement, which was the case tonight. There was nobody on here bragging about the play of Thomas tonight. Everyone recognized that it was a pretty easy game for him. I will just never understand why someone would feel compelled to start a thread that was an obvious attempt to lessen the value of the shutout.
    Posted by biggskye

    go through the official stats and see how often a guy gets a shutout and isn't 1st star.Better yet,don't bother as I don't want to offend TT in any way real or imagined.sometimes a post is about exactly what it says and has nothing to do with anything else.Fortunately,your opinion has nothing to do with my credibility.
     
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    In Response to Re: Shots on goal overrated : Unwritten rule that you don't send out your top PP units in a game deemed out of reach.
    Posted by dezaruchi


    I've been watching hockey for 30+ years, with 20+ of them possibly being labled as studying.  I have never, ever, ever heard of this.




     
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    Dez,
    Goalies rarely are not the first star in a shut out, unless its a lopsided game.
    I did not watch to see who was named the 3 stars.

    Thomas, bergeron,

    and march? or seguin i would guess..

    And I wasnt agreeing it was a shot at thomas, just that this post doesnt appear if rask plays, If rask had played I think the post would have been something more along the lines of "riding the hot goalie" just like was posted after his previous win...
     
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    Dez, Goalies rarely are not the first star in a shut out, unless its a lopsided game. I did not watch to see who was named the 3 stars. Thomas, bergeron, and march? or seguin i would guess.. And I wasnt agreeing it was a shot at thomas, just that this post doesnt appear if rask plays, If rask had played I think the post would have been something more along the lines of "riding the hot goalie" just like was posted after his previous win...
    Posted by rolerhoky19

    That wasn't posted by me after Rask's last game.What I posted after his last game is that Boston was fortunate to overcome the bad goal Rask gave up and that he played well after the bad goal.I'm not sure what I have to say about either goalie so as  not to offend the various supporters on each side.I guess I can't win being a fan of both.
     
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    In Response to Re: Shots on goal overrated : I've been watching hockey for 30+ years, with 20+ of them possibly being labled as studying.  I have never, ever, ever heard of this.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot

    You need more study then if you haven't  heard of not running up the score when given a big lead.Coaches in the World Juniors often complain about HAVING to run up the score against some teams because of ties being broken by goals for and against.Rarely will a team use PP unit 1 or 2 when up by 6 goals,
     
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    In Response to Re: Shots on goal overrated : You need more study then if you haven't  heard of not running up the score when given a big lead.Coaches in the World Juniors often complain about HAVING to run up the score against some teams because of ties being broken by goals for and against.Rarely will a team use PP unit 1 or 2 when up by 6 goals,
    Posted by dezaruchi


    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore;_ylt=AgwCP0toxyJUzYkozA7zIG0rvLYF?gid=2011010728

    There's a six goal game, and the #1 PP unit out, first game I checked.

    No, Dez, I don't need to study more. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Shots on goal overrated : You need more study then if you haven't  heard of not running up the score when given a big lead.Coaches in the World Juniors often complain about HAVING to run up the score against some teams because of ties being broken by goals for and against.Rarely will a team use PP unit 1 or 2 when up by 6 goals,
    Posted by dezaruchi


    Up by 4, halfway through the third period, that's a big lead in my book.

    What's Bobby Ryan doing out there?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore?gid=2011010725


     
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    In Response to Re: Shots on goal overrated : You need more study then if you haven't  heard of not running up the score when given a big lead.Coaches in the World Juniors often complain about HAVING to run up the score against some teams because of ties being broken by goals for and against.Rarely will a team use PP unit 1 or 2 when up by 6 goals,
    Posted by dezaruchi


    Up by four, seven minutes left in the third, that's a big lead in my book.

    What are the Sedins doing out there?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore?gid=2011010722
     
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