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    [QUOTE]I haven't seen much preseason games. But why not keep Clark and Caron and let Poulit go ?
    Posted by Stuke50[/QUOTE]

    Pouliot is under contract.  They can't let him go.


     
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    [QUOTE]I just don't think Thornton, Paille, Clark, Caron and Pouliot are bonafide every day starters. I'd rather have Clark signed so Julien can set up a rotation of veterans to keep players fresh and to play the matchup game. I like them all as role players, and I don't want to see Caron, Suave or Arniel sitting in the press box just as an extra guy they put on the plane. They need ice time wherever they can get it. Giving the new guys a chance is fine, but we have to remember that Marchand and Seguin are still a bit of unknown quantities in terms of point production, and Horton/Krejci/Bergeron all have head issues. Lucic is good for a stretch of 15 gimpy games every season, too. The new guys will get their shot when a long-term injury happens. For an extra guy when all are healthy, I prefer a veteran and therefore Clark.
    Posted by asmaha[/QUOTE]

    Paille was a major cog in the Cup victory.

    What else does he have to do?
     
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    I really do not see the point of signing Clark. He is not the second coming of Recchi and we have enough promising youngsters (Caron, Arniel) to fil the void.

    However, Julien likes his veterans so that may win out in the end.....
     
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    Cap space, and a mid winter's sale will answer any questions on whether or not a veteran is needed like Clark.  In the early part of the season, it is youth to be served.  If the youth fail, then PC has cap space.  I say a strong no to Clark.  
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sign Clark : Pouliot is under contract.  They can't let him go.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    Just curious NAS : out of Clark, Pouliot, and Caron, which 2 do you think should make the team, not including team contracts and the such, based on their play so far in preseason ?
     
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    NAS your so smart its scarey everything you say is dead on I wish evryone on this site was just like you
     
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    No.
    Waste of roster space, waste of money, sends the wrong signal to the prospects who don't make the team out of camp.

    I'd rather sign Samasanov who at least has some speed and scoring touch than Clark who merely has leadership.

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    [QUOTE]I'm confused. All this talk about the final roster spots and Pouliot vs. Caron vs. Arniel vs. Clark vs. whatever....and we've forgotten that the Bruins have cap flexibility. So sign the guy. Hey, I personally like Caron for the 13th spot, but injuries will happen. Slumps will happen. If you start the season with a guy in Providence because he has a 2-way contract while the veteran doesn't, then so be it. It's a long season. Clark won't command a huge salary. He's a responsible 2-way player. Guys will get moved at the deadline if there's a bigger fish to land at that point. In the meantime, build some depth. So sign him already and let's drop the puck.
    Posted by asmaha[/QUOTE]
     
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    Paille & Thornton were 2/3rds of what just about everyone called the best 4th line in the NHL last year. Often they were the most consistent. Go look up some of the last six or seven cup winning teams and tell me which had their enforcer playing as much as 10 or 12 minutes in the playoffs much less as many as 14 in the regular season. Sorry, no you're talking about a body part that ought not to make that much noise.

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    [QUOTE]I just don't think Thornton, Paille, Clark, Caron and Pouliot are bonafide every day starters. I'd rather have Clark signed so Julien can set up a rotation of veterans to keep players fresh and to play the matchup game. I like them all as role players, and I don't want to see Caron, Suave or Arniel sitting in the press box just as an extra guy they put on the plane. They need ice time wherever they can get it. Giving the new guys a chance is fine, but we have to remember that Marchand and Seguin are still a bit of unknown quantities in terms of point production, and Horton/Krejci/Bergeron all have head issues. Lucic is good for a stretch of 15 gimpy games every season, too. The new guys will get their shot when a long-term injury happens. For an extra guy when all are healthy, I prefer a veteran and therefore Clark.
    Posted by asmaha[/QUOTE]
     
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    [QUOTE]Much more interesting to watch the new talent develop.  Give them a chance
    Posted by CarolinaClamMan[/QUOTE]

    Spot on!  Doesn't the enduring success of a club often lie, in part, in its ablility to have a solid crop of young talent push the vets? 
     
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    [QUOTE]I just don't think Thornton, Paille, Clark, Caron and Pouliot are bonafide every day starters. I'd rather have Clark signed so Julien can set up a rotation of veterans to keep players fresh and to play the matchup game. I like them all as role players, and I don't want to see Caron, Suave or Arniel sitting in the press box just as an extra guy they put on the plane. They need ice time wherever they can get it. Giving the new guys a chance is fine, but we have to remember that Marchand and Seguin are still a bit of unknown quantities in terms of point production, and Horton/Krejci/Bergeron all have head issues. Lucic is good for a stretch of 15 gimpy games every season, too. The new guys will get their shot when a long-term injury happens. For an extra guy when all are healthy, I prefer a veteran and therefore Clark.
    Posted by asmaha[/QUOTE]
    I thought Thornton and Paille played there roles perfectly in the playoffs.Thornton, unfortunately is a guy every team needs ,someone who will drop the gloves from time to time to keep the other teams honest.Paille while he may not have great hands is a beautiful skater who can skate with the NHL's elite and neutralize them .Paille is a great penalty killer not sure why you wouldn't want him on the team. 
     
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    If we have so much young talent waiting for their shot, why were the P-Bruins so bad last season?
     
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    Did you take a look at the so called goaltending last year before Khudobin was picked up? Andy Moog's been retired since most of the players in Providence were in diapers, he could have come out and done better down there on a months conditioning than the performences they did get.

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    [QUOTE]If we have so much young talent waiting for their shot, why were the P-Bruins so bad last season?
    Posted by Bruinfaninnewjersey[/QUOTE]
     
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    “I haven’t minded his game,’’ general manager Peter Chiarelli said of Clark"
     
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    No need for Clark. We have enough nonscoring, defensive types that another 4th liner would just take up roster space. If another nonroster player is desired then pay for a free agent with more upside. This year is going to be a dogfight, and the more skill guys/shootout specialists we have the better. Only a few points will separate teams 5-9 in the playoff hunt. Look at the Flyers. They got Jagr, who is looking so far like the second best player in hockey (behind Sid the Kid). Hope that's not the case for our sake!
     
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    orrespo...how does a guy who hasn't played in the nhl for a couple years look like a guy who hasn't played in the nhl  since sustaining a concussion in january? oh yeah... neither have faced nhl competition in a long time. there's a reason jagr played in the khl and not the nhl. and there's no guarantee what crosby will look like once he returns, he's one more hit away from early retirement.  
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb1bTkagKaU&feature=related

    IMO Jagr gets injured this year. He's older and still skates with his head down.
     
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    ILH...i'm with you, i'd be very surprised if jagr plays in 60+ games. can't wait to see him take a regular season NHL hit(clean of course) come next thursday!!! seven days!!!! GO B'S
     
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    Calling Jagr the 2nd best player in hockey is disrespectful to the 200 or so NHLers that are currently better than him.
     
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    [QUOTE]If we have so much young talent waiting for their shot, why were the P-Bruins so bad last season?
    Posted by Bruinfaninnewjersey[/QUOTE]

    I think the record of your AHL team has little to no bearing on the quality of your top prospects.  The best AHL teams usually have more veterans there, which does nothing at all for the NHL franchise.  Providence was very young, lost their top scorer in Whitfield for the season, lost guys like Marchand and McQuaid to Boston, and it sounds to me that they suffered from poor goaltending and poor coaching.

    I don't think the win-loss record of Providence tells us anything about the development or readiness of Caron or Sauve as prospects though.  This year Providence has more veterans and will probably be better overall.  It won't mean the prospects are any better.

    Lastly, I don't think we are arguing that the Bruins necessarily have "so much young talent" -- I think some people believe that Caron or Sauve are just as capable of being the 12th or 13th forward in Boston as Chris Clark.  It would be better to have a young improving player in that role than an old declining one, IMO.
     
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    They got Jagr, who is looking so far like the second best player in hockey (behind Sid the Kid). Hope that's not the case for our sake!
    Posted by OrrEspoCash[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for causing the choking fit at my desk this morning.  I will put my coffee down before I read your next post.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sign Clark : Paille was a major cog in the Cup victory. What else does he have to do?
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    NAS is right on about Paille.....I too get frustrated over his "hands of stone" but he goes extra hard, is a top PK guy in the league, has top notch speed, and stands up for his team mates.....Every club needs a guy like him!
     
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    [QUOTE]Paille & Thornton were 2/3rds of what just about everyone called the best 4th line in the NHL last year. Often they were the most consistent. Go look up some of the last six or seven cup winning teams and tell me which had their enforcer playing as much as 10 or 12 minutes in the playoffs much less as many as 14 in the regular season. Sorry, no you're talking about a body part that ought not to make that much noise. In Response to Re: Sign Clark :
    Posted by bandgbleeder[/QUOTE]

    I will say it again: I just don't think Thornton, Paille, Clark, Caron and Pouliot are bonafide every day starters.

    82 games. Why does everything have to be all or nothing with you guys? I'm looking at long seasons, matchups, slumps, hot streaks and creating competition and incentive for a Cup-defending team. I take NOTHING away from these guys. I am huge fans of Thornton and Paille in particular. While I do my homework assignment in looking up 4th line minutes, you can do yours and look up my past comments defending these guys,

    What I am saying is that if Bergeron is healthy, you start him in all scenarios. If Horton is healthy, you start him in all scenarios. But even if Thornton and Paille are healthy, there are completely rational reasons to give them a breather in the press box and inject the lineup with a different look. They are role players. Very good ones, but role players nonetheless.

    That's all. I didn't call their mothers names or run over their dog with my car. I just said that I don't see them as take-it-to-the-bank automatic starters every night, and I like the idea of Clark on this team's depth chart.

    So simmer down. I may talk a lot, but I guarantee it's not out of any unusual body part. 
     
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    unusual body part.... do you have a tail? third nipple? what are you getting at asmaha? haha i do get your point, this exactly why each guy DID SIT for at least some portion of last season. clode has pretty good gauge for non-ryder players in my opinion, when it comes to that respect.  
     
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    I'm not sure what to say with all this talk about Jagr and "everyday " players. This Bruins team will need consistent lines with consistent "chemistry" in order to be successful. Lucic/Kreji/Horton looks solid; Marchand/Bergeron/Peverly or Seguin looks promising; Caron/Seguin/Kelly looks to have potential; Paille and Campbell should be locks, leaving right wing on the 4th line up for grabs by Pouliot, or Clark, or Thornton. Thornton's skill set is minimal, but he does have determination and experience; Pouliot has the skills, but doesn't seem to show well on any line combination, yet Claude likes him [maybe]; Clark has all the skills, experience and leadership, but a history of injuries in the past few years. With the decision to carry 23 players, there is room for both Clark and Pouliot. This then puts Arneil [21]' Sauve [ 21] in Providence where they can continue to develop.
     
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    Folks who don't like Jagr's skill level apparently don't realize he's first in active players in EVERY category. Sorry if you guys don't know what skill is. The only question is if he can do it for a full season, but Lidstrom's still got it so Jagr just may. He's really big, really fast, and really strong. Sure, he's been overseas, but he's playing with some great players like Girioux, so I wouldn't be surprised by a 40-40-80 campaign, which would er, I believe, put him around 700 hundred goals. Choke on that, my coffee drinking friend.
     

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