Re: SI's top ten power forwards of all time
posted at 3/10/2013 10:43 AM EDT
In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:
In response to Fletcher1's comment:
If the parameters are so clear, they should have included era (like modern, only) and maybe mentioned things that some posters are just making up, like winning % in fights.
Still if the parameters are hits, fights, and goals -- it makes it really hard to compare Lucic to long-time power forwards when he has less than 100 goals and less than 600 penalty minutes. Really hard.
Bill Guerin has over four times as many goals and twice as many fights for example.
We can all get excited about the guy we watch every night (I do too), but 5 full seasons of work and less than 100 goals usually doesn't put you on a best-of-all-time list. No matter what the parameters are.
People weren't too worried about Guerin on a night-to-night basis.
Well they should have been worried about his scoring, particularly when he had a 40 goal season.
I think we're at a difference-of-opinion impasse here. No matter how much we like fighting and toughness, the ability to score goals still has to be the number one factor in rating all time best power forwards.
I love Lucic and he may well be on this list some day, but for a guy who has only played 5 seasons, and averaged less than 20 goals per, it seems premature to me. I would take Guerin's 300+ more goals over Lucic being more fearsome, but I get that this isn't my list and the guy can put whomever he wants on there.
There are a lot of people pointing to Rask's early career statistics as being the best in the history of the NHL. But even the homers here aren't going to put the guy on a best -of-all-time list until he does it for a lot longer. That's my reaction to Lucic being on a best ever list after 5 years too.