Watching the third line for the B's is evident that they need some size added to the Kelly Peverley line. Bourque Jr. is way to easy to knock off the puck. Perhaps giving MacDermid a good chance would open some space up for the other two. The Marchand line is already a little on the small size now two lines of midgets, that is not intimidating anybody.
Some size needed up front
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Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 9:55 PM EST
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 10:10 PM EST
Marchand line is fine. Worry about your defensive line and how Joe Flacco lit up the Pats.
Thanks though.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 10:17 PM EST
I'll agree Bourque may not be the answer, but they're gonna give him more than 3 games before they make a move!
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 10:24 PM EST
Size. The bruins are big and their smaller players are gritty. This team needs a depth or top 4 d-man. Now I don't think bourque is the answer. I would like them to give Arnott a call. Then I'd like them call the islanders about mark strait.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 10:26 PM EST
Caron did nothing in Providence during the lock-out, but, his physical presence could indeed create more space for Peverley. But, Bourque has still the chance to prove he belongs to the NHL....
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 10:41 PM EST
I watched a few Barrie Colt games this year and Camara is full of sandpaper. He is hard along the boards, can drop the gloves if required and created tons of space for his linemates. I don't think he's ready now but next year looks promising. Perhaps Arnott for the time being is worth a kick of tires. I didn't know Caron looked poor this year in the AHL, too bad he didn't progress.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 10:46 PM EST
I don't understand why people think size is such an issue. It's not about how big a player is, but how they use their body, sticks, position, and brains. Bruins have enough size to get it done.
What do you think MacDermid will bring to the 3rd line? Him simply being big isn't going to make the line any better. He's a 4th liner/AHLer at this point in time.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 10:50 PM EST
I agree to a point on size versus grittyness, but clearing some space for your linemates does require a little size, and unfortunately Ray's kid is extremely soft and doesn't add much to this line up. An entire team full of slow big thugs is not the answer but right now on the B's 3rd line some size would be nice, thats all.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/23/2013 10:50 PM EST
In response to hangnail's comment:
I'll agree Bourque may not be the answer, but they're gonna give him more than 3 games before they make a move!
Hang, I think Bourque gets extra slack around these parts because of his last name but you're absolutely right, he's likely to get a longer look than just 3 games. That said, he really does seem like he's not strong enough to compete in the NHL. I purposely used the word strong because Marchand is basically the same size as him but he seems way harder to seperate from the puck. Marchand also didn't play very well tonight. He scored but he didn't play very well. -
Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 7:51 AM EST
In response to Bisson1's comment:
I don't understand why people think size is such an issue. It's not about how big a player is, but how they use their body, sticks, position, and brains. Bruins have enough size to get it done.
What do you think MacDermid will bring to the 3rd line? Him simply being big isn't going to make the line any better. He's a 4th liner/AHLer at this point in time.
Post of the thread for me. In today's hockey I'd rather players with speed and good stick skills.
Saying that, I do think that Bourque has to pick his game up or else......... But MacDermid ? I want skill promoted to the B's not plodding. -
Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 8:17 AM EST
In response to dezaruchi's comment:
In response to hangnail's comment:
I'll agree Bourque may not be the answer, but they're gonna give him more than 3 games before they make a move!
Hang, I think Bourque gets extra slack around these parts because of his last name but you're absolutely right, he's likely to get a longer look than just 3 games. That said, he really does seem like he's not strong enough to compete in the NHL. I purposely used the word strong because Marchand is basically the same size as him but he seems way harder to seperate from the puck. Marchand also didn't play very well tonight. He scored but he didn't play very well.
Agreed dez. I would also add that Peverly and Kelly can certainly make up for some of Bourque's inconsistencies and cover his butt when needed. That said, I don't feel Bourque has been a glaring liability to this point so I wouldn't say the team is in dire need of finding a replacement for him. As for Marchand I'll cut him some slack because he always gives 100% and brings intangibles that Bourque doesn't. -
Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 8:35 AM EST
Yep Bourque has not played to the level I was expecting so far...he has the chance of a lifetime ..prove he belongs to the NHL but so far not much to show...another 2 games and that wil open the door to Caron..I dont think Caron has been very good this year with the P-Bruins but there are some players that play better in the NHL than in the AHL...dont ask me why but I have seen that in the past ...oh well if Caron comes back in the line up ...I dont think we will see Bourque back for a while ...Spooner is knocking at the door and maybe Jamie Tardif (6'1" 200lbs ) desserve a chance ???
Or last option...a trade....????
Stanley Cup to the BRUINS in 2011 and 2013 (with Khudo as our #1)
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 8:45 AM EST
In response to hangnail's comment:
In response to dezaruchi's comment:
In response to hangnail's comment:
I'll agree Bourque may not be the answer, but they're gonna give him more than 3 games before they make a move!
Hang, I think Bourque gets extra slack around these parts because of his last name but you're absolutely right, he's likely to get a longer look than just 3 games. That said, he really does seem like he's not strong enough to compete in the NHL. I purposely used the word strong because Marchand is basically the same size as him but he seems way harder to seperate from the puck. Marchand also didn't play very well tonight. He scored but he didn't play very well.
Agreed dez. I would also add that Peverly and Kelly can certainly make up for some of Bourque's inconsistencies and cover his butt when needed. That said, I don't feel Bourque has been a glaring liability to this point so I wouldn't say the team is in dire need of finding a replacement for him. As for Marchand I'll cut him some slack because he always gives 100% and brings intangibles that Bourque doesn't.
It is only worth Peverely and Kelly picking up Bourque's slack if he is actually producing and he simply is not so far. I would venture to guess that once Caron is ready to go Bourque will be gone...... -
Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 9:07 AM EST
It's nice to see Bourque get a shot, but he is not the type to break up plays or set up from the corners. I would hope that Caron could redeem himself once he is healthy.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 9:16 AM EST
It took a while for the Bruins to adjust to Gaborik/Nash/Richards, but it is obvious that Thornton, who still gives 100+ effort, should also be replaced. I know he's the Garden's faithful hero, but more skill is needed to make the 4th line good enough to disrupt other team's strong lines. Thorny had minimum ice last night, particularly in the third period, which adds credence to the replace Bourque views. The Bruins cannot compete with two less than capable players.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 1:53 PM EST
In response to jmwalters' comment:
In response to hangnail's comment:
In response to dezaruchi's comment:
In response to hangnail's comment:
I'll agree Bourque may not be the answer, but they're gonna give him more than 3 games before they make a move!
Hang, I think Bourque gets extra slack around these parts because of his last name but you're absolutely right, he's likely to get a longer look than just 3 games. That said, he really does seem like he's not strong enough to compete in the NHL. I purposely used the word strong because Marchand is basically the same size as him but he seems way harder to seperate from the puck. Marchand also didn't play very well tonight. He scored but he didn't play very well.
Agreed dez. I would also add that Peverly and Kelly can certainly make up for some of Bourque's inconsistencies and cover his butt when needed. That said, I don't feel Bourque has been a glaring liability to this point so I wouldn't say the team is in dire need of finding a replacement for him. As for Marchand I'll cut him some slack because he always gives 100% and brings intangibles that Bourque doesn't.
It is only worth Peverely and Kelly picking up Bourque's slack if he is actually producing and he simply is not so far. I would venture to guess that once Caron is ready to go Bourque will be gone......
The window is definitely closing on him to prove he's worthy of a roster spot. Caron probably would replace him, but Spooner is starting to put up better numbers in Providence, wonder if he would get a shot? Though I'm not sure how Spooner would fit on a line with Peverley and Kelly.... -
Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 2:39 PM EST
With the size of Lucic, Horton, and Thorton along with Bergeron, Marchand, Campbell, and Marchand having good board skills, I don't think size is something that is needed from a 3rd string winger.
I don't think Bourque is a great player but I don't see any major holes in his game either. Going out and signing a player of the Satan, Pandolfo or Knuble ilk doesn't seem like a great upgrade to me.
As an aside, I thought NBC's coverage of the game was atrocious. Bourque gets cross checked across the face and they say it was due to Bourque being small?
Though, Pierre was on Dougie's crotch all game.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 2:57 PM EST
Caron getting injured pretty much assured Bourque of that 3rd line spot...
I still want to see Spooner get a few games in to see how he would handle it...
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 3:22 PM EST
How is it nobody is calling for Sauve to get another shot? He was the best player on the ice in the Bos/Prov game.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 3:52 PM EST
Nobody wants to see Mr. Glass get hurt again.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 5:42 PM EST
Mr. Glass plays for Pittsburgh? :)
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 7:40 PM EST
shupe, you nailed it. arnott is a great solution to the problem. cheap, experience, size. i believe he can play wing or center. third line becomes kelly - arnott - peverley. This gives you so much versatility if there are injuries.
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 8:03 PM EST
Stanley your predictions are on par with your assessment of Bourque and Caron.
In response to StanleyCuptotheBruinsin2011's comment:
Yep Bourque has not played to the level I was expecting so far...he has the chance of a lifetime ..prove he belongs to the NHL but so far not much to show...another 2 games and that wil open the door to Caron..I dont think Caron has been very good this year with the P-Bruins but there are some players that play better in the NHL than in the AHL...dont ask me why but I have seen that in the past ...oh well if Caron comes back in the line up ...I dont think we will see Bourque back for a while ...Spooner is knocking at the door and maybe Jamie Tardif (6'1" 200lbs ) desserve a chance ???
Or last option...a trade....????
Stanley Cup to the BRUINS in 2011 and 2013 (with Khudo as our #1)
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Re: Some size needed up front
posted at 1/24/2013 11:22 PM EST
In response to dezaruchi's comment:
How is it nobody is calling for Sauve to get another shot? He was the best player on the ice in the Bos/Prov game.
You know I want to see it Dez but frankly he hasn't earned it. You can't fix brittle, as Luedeke always mentions "NHL talent but can't stay healthy cause he is a streen bean". Bourque, Spooner and Tardif earned there callups.Also Sauve has suffered 3 concussions within a year so the Bruins just might be being careful becuase of what has happened with Bergeron and Savard. Next year Max is out of his entry level contract, so the injuries couldn't have come at a worse time.
Only hope for him in the Bruins organization is Chiarelli giving Sauve a 8-10 game look becuase he was after all PCs draft pick before they non-tender him this summer. Other than that Sauve would need to go on a scoring spree to surpass Spooner, Tardif and Caron. That doesn't seem like it is going to happen anytime soon playing with Camper and Cunningham. That line did produce two weeks ago when they had #1 line TOI with Spooner, Tardif and Bourque in Boston.
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