Strength down the middle???????????
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Strength down the middle???????????
posted at 12/16/2010 8:02 AM EST
Krejci 5 goals
Bergeron 5 goals
Campbell 2 goals
Savard 0 goals
While Krejci has been decent the rest of these guys are awful. Bergeron can hit an empty net once in a while. Savard looks like he is looking to spend the next seven years here avoiding contact. Face it Savard needed Kessel or Kovy. He is nothing.....and another thing...when the 4th line is your best line every nite your coach obviously can't motivate or even coach. THe team can't score and Seguin sits for Paille??? Four days off and Rask starts over Thomas???? Without Thomas this team is not a playoff team and Clod still plays 2-10 Rask??? Look at the other top 8 teams' coaches and tell me if Clod is better than any of them? Awful coach. -
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posted at 12/16/2010 8:29 AM EST
I agree, Bergeron needs too go. Yes he made the Olympics, but only as a faceoff specialist that barely played. Too much money for to little return. By far the most overrated Bruin. -
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posted at 12/16/2010 8:46 AM EST
I shouldn't throw Campbell in there. He's actually decent for a 4th liner who plays smart. When something goes wrong on that line it is usually Thornton's fault since he can't skate and is basically a poor version of a goon -
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posted at 12/16/2010 9:06 AM EST
There is more to playing ctr then #s on a score sheet..........hockey 101 you should read it -
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posted at 12/16/2010 9:12 AM EST
You don't get paid $5m to take faceoffs. Thereare plentyof good faceoff guys who can kill penalties for alot less........ -
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posted at 12/16/2010 9:18 AM EST
SAVVY IS NO WHERE NEAR GAME SHAPE
BERGY IS ONE OF IF NOT BEST ALL AROUND CTR IN NHL..
KRECJI IS A PLAYMAKER WITH STRONG DEFENSIVE SKILLS JUST A LITTLE SOFT
CAMPBELL IS A BARGAIN AND UNDERRATED
Almost every team in nhl with maybe not Pit would love to swap ctrs with Boston -
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posted at 12/16/2010 9:40 AM EST
Show me one thing that makes Bergeron "one of, if not the best two way centers in the nhl"? Sorry just don't see it.Season GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S% Regular Season 29 5 10 15 6 12 3 1 2 71 7.0 LEAGUE RANK 231st 175th 131st 158th 93rd 343rd 49th 17th 42nd 105th 377th -
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posted at 12/16/2010 9:47 AM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:Season GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S% Regular Season 29 5 10 15 6 12 3 1 2 71 7.0 LEAGUE RANK 231 st 175 th 131 st 158 th 93 rd 343 rd 49 th 17 th 42 nd 105 th 377 th Show me one thing that makes Bergeron "one of, if not the best two way centers in the nhl"? Sorry just don't see it.
Posted by juniorfalcons19
This rank is based on forwards, actual center rankings is bergeron is at 64th of 205, 2 below Krejci. -
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posted at 12/16/2010 9:53 AM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : This rank is based on forwards, actual center rankings is bergeron is at 64th of 205, 2 below Krejci.Thanks wally, 64th at center hardly qualifies as "the best if not the best all around centers in the nhl" either.
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posted at 12/16/2010 10:14 AM EST
The fact is Bergeron had one "great year". He scored 30 goals and was -30 I believe for Dave Lewis. He isn't on the level of top centers in the NHL. Making Team Canada was a joke. He never played and he will never be selected again. There is always one guy that gets in that doesn't belong. Bergeron is a good player that needs players around him to excel...so give him Seguin or Lucic or Savard and maybe he can earn his salary. Playing him 20+ minutes a night with a 50 yr old man and a hopeless Wheeler is literally pointless -
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posted at 12/16/2010 10:15 AM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:I agree, Bergeron needs too go. Yes he made the Olympics, but only as a faceoff specialist that barely played. Too much money for to little return. By far the most overrated Bruin.
Posted by juniorfalcons19
The only person who needs to go is you........go cheer for habs tonite -
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posted at 12/16/2010 11:38 AM EST
It's crazy you guys can type with your head so firmly placed up your arses. Bergeron's job every night is to play against the best opposing line. Therefore, he's not going to get a ton of opportunities to score and having a positive +/- is great.
I think people that bash Bergeron really don't understand what he brings to the team - and it's not just faceoffs. -
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posted at 12/16/2010 11:51 AM EST
Absolutely nrguy- Nash 99 just doesn't get it. Bergie is playing against the other team's best, and he is doing it with Recchi [ no longer very good at any part of the game] and Wheeler, if he could finish Bergie's feeds he would lead the team in goals. The problems start with Claude and continue thru team members like Recchi,Thornton, Ryder, Wheeler, Ference, Boychuck. Just enough misplays to disrupt any continuity and solid play. Also, let's not forget that Savvy is not up to speed, and is only a smidgen away from depression. Not the best scenario for tutoring Seguin. A different post indicated that Neely is taking notes, and watching the same problems we all see. -
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posted at 12/16/2010 12:01 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : The only person who needs to go is you........go cheer for habs toniteSince you can't back up your stupid statement, you have too resort to childish name calling. The fact remains Bergeron is way overpaid for what he brings. You were simply outfacted, something you should be used too in life by now. Now go tell mommy this mean poster schooled you, loser.
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posted at 12/16/2010 12:04 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:It's crazy you guys can type with your head so firmly placed up your arses. Bergeron's job every night is to play against the best opposing line. Therefore, he's not going to get a ton of opportunities to score and having a positive +/- is great. I think people that bash Bergeron really don't understand what he brings to the team - and it's not just faceoffs.I understand Bergeron won't score twenty goals , or lead the league in any defensive or offensive catorgories. But seeing your head is so far up this medium players hiney, I see why your a clueless poster.
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posted at 12/16/2010 12:04 PM EST
I don't think it is our centers we need help with we need a fast winger who can score those important goals. Horton/Ryder I will give credit their scoring and Lucic scoring but should get back to being the pounder also. The other problem is PP we need an experience d man with good blue line knowledge and fast puck carrier ie Kaberle not a bad rental for remaining season but what will toronto want for him big ? we can start with Wheels,Paille (3.25 mill) and good prospect go from there. Burke will laugh but catch his attention anyways. Also a lot of threaders are talking about Yandle but PHX. is fighting for playoff spot he would a tough go but would be worth it over Kaberle.
For our sniper wait until deadline to see who is available and which Bruin to move only winger i can think of at the moment is Moulson he can score if he had good set up center ie savard. -
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posted at 12/16/2010 4:56 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : AMEN!!! good post as ive said before bergie is good not great, and for those who say that some of us dont truely understand his role i think its fair to say that there are alot of defensive forwards in the league who are just as good,albeit faster and grittier than bergeron for less $$$$ i really like Campbell he is grittier and faster than bergie maybe not as skilled as him but to make a good point i dont think bergeron is head over heels better than Campbell i ou
Posted by uppercut
Yeah,the local troll Nash99 agrees with you.That must make it true.Tell us all who are these better,grittier,yet cheaper defensive forwards?You comparing Bergeron to Campbell tells everyone all they need to know about your ability to judge players. -
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posted at 12/16/2010 5:41 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : Yeah,the local troll Nash99 agrees with you.That must make it true.Tell us all who are these better,grittier,yet cheaper defensive forwards?You comparing Bergeron to Campbell tells everyone all they need to know about your ability to judge players.
Posted by dezaruchi
There you go again...Someone makes a comment you disagree with -that makes him a "troll". What does that make you? A "good" bruin fan ? -
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posted at 12/16/2010 5:46 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : There you go again...Someone makes a comment you disagree with -that makes him a "troll". What does that make you? A "good" bruin fan ?
Posted by JWensink
I've always considered Nash a troll.Are you familiar with his stuff?Do you have a relative who's a troll so it hits closer to home?Sorry it hurts your feelings.Call me whatever you want once you dry the tears off your keyboard. -
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posted at 12/16/2010 5:48 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : There you go again...Someone makes a comment you disagree with -that makes him a "troll". What does that make you? A "good" bruin fan ?
Posted by JWensink
It certainly makes me less of a baby than you......and your the guy that won't stop going on about this team toughening up.Try a bit of that yourself princess(and this is me sincerely trying to be respectful of your feelings). -
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posted at 12/16/2010 6:14 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : It certainly makes me less of a baby than you......and your the guy that won't stop going on about this team toughening up.Try a bit of that yourself princess(and this is me sincerely trying to be respectful of your feelings).
Posted by dezaruchi
"So you think because someone agrees with you that makes you right.I told you before,your opinion is just that-YOUR opinion.You notice Jwensink and I could engage in an intelligent debate without throwing an online hissy-fit?Try it out sometime.Very enlightening when you realize people don't have to agree with each other to still respect them.Anyway,make sure you've got your homework done and your parents will probably let you stay up for the whole game."Posted by dezaruchi
That's one of your posts from last week - -
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posted at 12/16/2010 6:17 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : "So you think because someone agrees with you that makes you right.I told you before,your opinion is just that-YOUR opinion . You notice Jwensink and I could engage in an intelligent debate without throwing an online hissy-fit?Try it out sometime. Very enlightening when you realize people don't have to agree with each other to still respect them .Anyway,make sure you've got your homework done and your parents will probably let you stay up for the whole game." Posted by dezaruchi That's one of your posts from last week -
Posted by JWensink
Your point being? -
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posted at 12/16/2010 6:22 PM EST
Seriously ??? You just trashed me for saying the same f@!*ing thing.
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posted at 12/16/2010 6:23 PM EST
In Response to Re: Strength down the middle???????????:In Response to Re: Strength down the middle??????????? : "So you think because someone agrees with you that makes you right.I told you before,your opinion is just that-YOUR opinion . You notice Jwensink and I could engage in an intelligent debate without throwing an online hissy-fit?Try it out sometime. Very enlightening when you realize people don't have to agree with each other to still respect them .Anyway,make sure you've got your homework done and your parents will probably let you stay up for the whole game." Posted by dezaruchi That's one of your posts from last week -
Posted by JWensink
I don't dislike you and typically will try to respect your feelings but if you want to jump in(unasked) and come to someones defense then don't get upset when you get told how I feel about it.Like I said,call me a hypocrite or anything else you like and you won't find me crying why.....why.Oh,now my feelings have been hurt.