Re: Taylor v Tyler in this the lost year
posted at 12/19/2012 9:55 AM EST
In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:
In response to Bookboy007's comment:
Overall, AHL scoring champs averaged 0.37 ppg in their NHL stints, but that drops to 0.2 ppg if you remove Armstrong. Five of the 9 Swiss A leaders (counting Robitaille only once) fell on above the average even if Armstrong was included, and all but two were well above the 0.20 number that sets aside Armstrong as an anomaly. Edge Swiss A.
That's one way to look at it. Another is that the NHL is the best league in the world and a group of players who were drafted by the NHL are generally going to be better hockey players than a group that was not.
That's more or less what I meant by "[i]t's the developing prospects that would give the AHL a nod if you wanted to side that way." The top scorers in both leagues tend not to be bound for the NHL. There are always exceptions, but the guys with NHL talent don't usually stick around until they're fully developed. In the sample I looked at for the point above, guys like Jason Krog and Kirby Law went undrafted and won AHL scoring titles. Darren Haydar was a 9th round pick, Alexandre Giroux a 7th. The AHL scoring leader with the best NHL resume, Derek Armstrong, was a 6th round pick. The top scorers (but probably not the best players in the long run) in the A are also a bunch of undrafted guys or late round picks.
In Krejci's best AHL year, he had 74 points in 69 games. Haydar won the title that year with 122 points. In the top ten scorers that year, only Haydar, Brett Stirling, P.A. Parenteau and Troy Brouwer were drafted and they were all late rounders. Only Parenteau and Brouwer have made it as real NHLers, though it remains to be seen what P.A. does once he's out of that pressure cooker on Long Island where the tradition of success drives players...nevermind.
I'm sure if you looked at the top 10 scorers on each AHL team and each Swiss A team from 2000-2010, the NHL achievements of the guys from the AHL would crush the Swiss players. Ray Emery's comment that the KHL falls somewhere between the AHL and the NHL in terms of level of play probably doesn't apply to the Swiss A, but I think I'd still land on simply preferring to watch the AHL game rather than trying to assert the AHL is tangibly better.