The "Hit" on Marchand

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    Re: The "Hit" on Marchand

    It's already been mentioned, but there's such a thing as incidental contact. The two were circling - one on the forecheck and one winding up for the rush. They made contact. How any ties have we seen Chara skating backwards and hit a guy standing at the offensive blue line - and no call comes?

    Guys run into each other. Then Marchand does his best Brian Boitano impression and hit the ground. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he was off-balance, but you pop up and keep skating unless you've lost a limb.

    Seguin bailed him out in OT. I sure hope there's a conversation there that sets Marchand straight on how Bruins play and how they don't. I have NO doubt that conversation will take place.
     
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    In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand : I'm not sure who you are speaking to and won't bother to check.  I have no Vendetta against Marchand, I think in many games last year during the playoffs he was our best forward and certainly the spark plug.  But, when he's dinving on the ice and reminding me of Alex Burrows, he is not helping the team.  The kid has skill, I just hope he focuses on playing with more speed and fesitiness with less acting and contrived gamesmanship.
    Posted by RickyHussle[/QUOTE]

    Try checking who I replied to Ricky......but since you replied to me...

    There's a difference between not helping and hurting a team . You think he dove and has been acting. I don't. A difference of opinion. Reminding you of Alex Borrows doesn't make it so. It hasn't.

    In the playoffs he's worked hard, created offense , played good defense and stayed away from hurting his team with unnecessary selfish penalties which he could have easily had considering the reputation he carries.

    You not liking his gamesmanship won't and shouldn't change the way he plays the game. He is a good player who also happens to be good at being a rat. He gets opposing players off their game with this style of play. He has to do what got him to the dance and made him successful. Being a Lady Byng candidate won't cut it.

    He plays the game the same way Johnny "Pie" MacKenzie ( one of my favourites )played the game. Tough, aggressive and a pain in the butt to play against. An ex-Bruin that is loved for the way he played. They are the type of players who rise above the passive players with their compete level come playoff time.
     
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    In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand : Marchand was hardly moving forward , he cannot get spun around like that by himself, not even Elvis Stojko could get that much leverage standing still and pirouette like that. He was hit, coincidental but none-the-less hit.
    Posted by BsLegion[/QUOTE]

    I agree, but it still should have been an interference penalty in my opinion.

    By the way, props for referencing the once great Canadian figure skater!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand : Try checking who I replied to Ricky......but since you replied to me... There's a difference between not helping and hurting a team . You think he dove and has been acting. I don't. A difference of opinion. Reminding you of Alex Borrows doesn't make it so. It hasn't. In the playoffs he's worked hard, created offense , played good defense and stayed away from hurting his team with unnecessary selfish penalties which he could have easily had considering the reputation he carries. You not liking his gamesmanship won't and shouldn't change the way he plays the game. He is a good player who also happens to be good at being a rat. He gets opposing players off their game with this style of play. He has to do what got him to the dance and made him successful. Being a Lady Byng candidate won't cut it. He plays the game the same way Johnny "Pie" MacKenzie ( one of my favourites )played the game. Tough, aggressive and a pain in the butt to play against. An ex-Bruin that is loved for the way he played. They are the type of players who rise above the passive players with their compete level come playoff time.
    Posted by Chowdahkid-[/QUOTE]

    I did not check who you were responding to because I didn't think it should have an affect on my thoughts regarding the play.  I did check after hitting send.

    I don't think that Marchand has had the same effect as he did in last year's run.  That doesn't mean I think he has been awful, just that he can be better.  For me it feels like his gamesmanship is negatively correlated with the true feistiness he brings with hard drives to the net and constant battles along the boards.  He often battles in tandem with Bergeron and the two of them seemingly provide 35 layers of control.  It's an amazing sight.

    I don't want him to be a Lady Bing candidate but I think our disagreement is more about what defines the feistiness which got him to the show.   I think the feistiness you are talking about hurts his team when the refs feel that the B's are trying to pull the wool  over there eyes.  Its human nature for them to take offense to acting jobs.  I would rather eeveryone follow the Claude Julien way and play honorable man-up hockey.
     
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    Re: The "Hit" on Marchand

    The problem was that Marchand now has a bad reputation as a diver and faker!
    So the ref turned and sees who it is and isn't sure?
    He has brought this on himself.
     
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    [QUOTE]The problem was that Marchand now has a bad reputation as a diver and faker! So the ref turned and sees who it is and isn't sure? He has brought this on himself.
    Posted by Canadianfan6[/QUOTE]
    there's a whole lot of truth to this statement. although i will make a distinction between diving and embellishing. marchand does not dive(not being touched, and still reacts). he has embellished though(contacted but plays it out as more than that). he has to PLAY HOCKEY, and stay on his skates. he's taking himself out of plays, trying to get calls. that's for other teams to do, not the bruins. we need to see the fiesty hustler that is strong on the puck, it's that guy who will help the bruins succeed. why would he try to get the b's on the pp, they're better off playing 5v5.  
     
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    [QUOTE]The problem was that Marchand now has a bad reputation as a diver and faker! So the ref turned and sees who it is and isn't sure? He has brought this on himself.
    Posted by Canadianfan6[/QUOTE]

    Agreed. And this behavior is the 1 black mark I can find regarding how this team plays. Julien has the right philosophy, I hope he can get Marchand to quit the acting, leave it to the Habs and Canucks.
     
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    Whether you love or hate him, I think we all can agree that his embellishing has been a bit much this series. However, I really don't see the dive on this play and I've watched it over a dozen times.

    He's following the puck, Chimera picks him. Other than that, I don't see much else other than Marchand complaining to the refs afterwards. Do you want him to watch the puck, the other guy that is right next to him, and the guy coming across that spins him? Seriously?

    Give it a rest. Whether it should have been a call or not is not what's being argued here for some reason. Whether he dove or not or if Chimera made him bleed is?

    People here are quick to call him a diver because of his prior antics but I just don't see the dive here. I see interference because last I checked, you can't put a pick on a forechecker.

     
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    In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand:
    [QUOTE]It's already been mentioned, but there's such a thing as incidental contact. The two were circling - one on the forecheck and one winding up for the rush. They made contact. How any times have we seen Chara skating backwards and hit a guy standing at the offensive blue line - and no call comes? Posted by asmaha[/QUOTE]

    How can it be incidental contact when Chimera is looking right at Marchand and then skates right into him? It's a great play by Chimera, take out the forechecker by skating back to the defensive zone before turning up the ice. If it's not called, it's a great idea.

    Unintentional contact usually (read - always) comes when someone is not looking where they are going.

    If you're out of the play and don't have a chance to get back into it because you just got spinned by a hit away from the puck, why should you bounce up and skate after the play. Laying down for a second for a missed call is not something I'm going to criticize. Not calling a guy for interference when he comes back into the defensive zone to clip a forechecker is something I will criticize. 

    The Marchand hate has reached it's boiling point. 
     
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    That could've been an interference call, but did Marchand really need to do four barrel rolls in the air afterwards?

    It's pathetic...

    Take another look:
    http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/eye-on-hockey/18766673/video-jason-chimeras-game-6-goal-had-some-controversy

    You really think Brad Marchand, who can duck under any Dmen in the league on the walls, and is one of the more shifty players in the league couldn't get his stick and arms out of the way of Chimera?

    Marchand stuck out his arms to make contact with Chimera and didn't get a call because he has been a pathetic flopper this whole series...

    I'm a big fan of Marchand and what he brings, but he really needs to cut the diving crap...

    It certainly cost the Bs in that situation...
     
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    I don't think he dove, as I think the blow was enough to knock him to the ice....don't think he had the time to plan for it as he saw Chimmy at the last second.

    Also, I don't care what caused the blood.....that's like saying "Jones didn't cause Bergeron's concussion; the boards did."

    It really wasn't that egregious. Even if he didn't go down and just got knocked back a little bit, do you really think his presence would have stopped the goal?
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't think he dove, as I think the blow was enough to knock him to the ice....don't think he had the time to plan for it as he saw Chimmy at the last second. Also, I don't care what caused the blood.....that's like saying "Jones didn't cause Bergeron's concussion; the boards did." It really wasn't that egregious. Even if he didn't go down and just got knocked back a little bit, do you really think his presence would have stopped the goal?
    Posted by TheGuyWithDaThing[/QUOTE]

    Well said DaGuy
     
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    Re: The "Hit" on Marchand

    I don't think Marchand completely "dove" on the play. I think he really was off balance and fell, I just thought he embellished it a bit. I don't like seeing any Bruin do that, and I'm sure someone, be it a coach or a veteran guy in the room, will talk to him about it. He's better than that. Don't need to be like the ones in Montreal and Vancouver!
     
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    In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The "Hit" on Marchand : Marchand was mentioned as the best Bruin on the ice in game 5. I agree. Hurting the team ? Your supposed objective comments about Marchand are vendetta driven, predictable and meaningless.
    Posted by Chowdahkid-[/QUOTE]
    And GOD speaks!

    Congratulations BTW- I was in a store the other day & I noticed they used your head for the new Viagra Pez Dispenser. Why don't save your hot air for your blow-up doll!

     

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