Re: They must be drunk in Pittsburgh!
posted at 2/25/2011 12:47 AM EST
In Response to Re: They must be drunk in Pittsburgh!
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: They must be drunk in Pittsburgh! : Sorry shupe, but I can't let it end if you're still making that assertion. Cam Ward's in his age bracket, has a Cup and a Conn Smythe backing a much less impressive club. He's also backstopped some huge runs by the 'Canes to take a thin team with a weak defense to the playoffs. I take him any day over Fleury. The biggest reason I can't walk on your last statements though? I gave you stats to show that he's no better than the 8th or 9th best goaltender in the league this year, examples of how he might be the reason they've only won one Cup with that core group, and support for my position that yes, he has a ton of talent, but I would never trust him. I fundamentally disagree with the positive outlook on Fleury. Best you'll get from me is agree to disagree on this one - and then its crowdsourcing support.
Posted by Bookboy007[/QUOTE]
Sorry Bookboy, but Soxfan is an avid TT hater & Shupe isn't a fan. So there's no since in trying to convince otherwise. And if TT does become a Champion? It'll only be because of the B's system. Soxfan continually uses the same types of bad goals he's allowed, but earlier in the season when the B's weren't playing that great, but winning games where they out shot 26-2 in the 3rd period gets forgotten.
Soxfan thinks style of goaltending is what's key! However Ken Dryden has said multiple times that TT & Hasek are 2 goalies that understand their postion better than anyone he's ever seen. What they lack in style, or "goalie rules" they make up for in compete & battle! Who you going to listen to?
TT isn't good on shoot outs because of his style, or lack thereof, but TT's style makes him tougher to beat in a game, because he's so unpredictable. How can a shooter know what to do when TT himself doesn't know? I think that there's more video coaches that have given up on trying to figure what to do on TT then any other goalie.
The haters of TT love to bring up the Walker goal, but they don't talk about the 2 big saves he made of Staal & Whitney seconds apart with one of them having a rebound chance as well. That helped the B's even get to OT to begin with. Also they forget that TT is the only Bruin goalie to EVER bring back the B's to a game 7 after being down 3-1. He's done this twice in back to back seasons. No the B's didn't win, but Fuhr, Moog, Ranford, Smith all lost before they won!
I do agree that Fleury can win you a game, when he's on. However, he had to lose before he won too! I can see Shupe's argument (Not Soxfan because he's just a hater) Fleury has proven he can be both the goat & the hero. The goat in 08 & the hero who robbed Lindstrom in the final seconds in 09'. The goal is to win & MAF has done that. However? There's no way I take MAF over TT in my play-off run. The only one I'd think about taking over Timmy is Miller, but remember the goal Alfreddson scored in OT in 07'. Even he allows stoppable goals in OT.