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    [QUOTE]it's a free country (outside the peoples republic of massachusetts) so the first amendment gives timmah the right to assemble somewhere else.  you guys are sounding like penn state fans.     
    Posted by Karl-Hungus[/QUOTE]
    I don't think anyone is disputing his right to this decision, just the perception that he's put himself above/apart from the team.  Given how important team cohesiveness seems to be thought of in hockey (and among Bruins fans in particular, I think) it's perceived as a no-no.  For all we know though, he'll have a good reason.
     
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    " This was a poor unpatriotic move by Timmy."

    Actually I would consider it very patriotic.  He's excercising his rights as an American citizen.  To those claiming it's disrespectful are wrong, as far as I'm concerned.  He has principles and he's staunchly defending them.  Sure, to be invited to the White House is certainly an honor, but by no means should you HAVE to accept.  

    I also do not believe it was Thomas trying to make a public political statement.  Media and speculative fans are the ones doing it.  It's not as if Thomas talked about how he was going to snub the invite leading up to this.  

    His teammates still went, and they seemed to enjoy it.  Everybody crying about one person not going are the only ones who are turning this 'celebration' into a negative.  
     
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    [QUOTE]@ lambda13  I get where your coming from, but here's why it bugs me: it's intentionally divisive. It's an atttempt to merge politics and sports, and to hijack an event that's supposed to be a sign of respect from the commander in cheif in order to make a cheap political statement. It's adolescent. It's sad to see Tim Thomas caught up in the political  "us vs them" thinking that is curropting our country's national discourse.
    Posted by Olsonic[/QUOTE]

    Well said.

    To the people pining about free speech, of course he has the right to not go.  That's kind of an obvious and trite observation.  But what is the political statement?  And why as a sports figure, does Thomas want to make that political statement?

    The President is not asking for a campaign contribution, he is honoring the team, on behalf of the Office and the country.  I don't think it matters one bit whether the President is Obama, or Bush, or Ron Paul.  It is a gesture to publicly honor the Bruins.

    In refusing to go, I think it is an insult to the office, and to some extent the country.  What if a Canadian player refused to go as a political statement?  What if a Muslim did it?

    It's just bad form.  It's divisive, and seems arrogant too.  And I swear I have no political motivation saying this.  I'm not even a Democrat.

    I'm just sitting here hoping it was something else.  Disappointed in Timmy.
     
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    Barry O has been to exactly zero NHL games...so who' disrespecting who???
     
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    [QUOTE]Barry O has been to exactly zero NHL games...so who' disrespecting who???
    Posted by nash99[/QUOTE]

    seriously.....stupidest comment ever

     
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    Yawn.
     
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    what a classless move from an otherwise classy guy!
     
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    Barry O has been to exactly zero NHL games...so who' disrespecting who???--nash99

    If that's correct Nash, and even if Obama's been to a couple of games just to "be seen" as a hockey fan (which I don't think he is known for, unless I'm mistaken), you make a good point!
     
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    [QUOTE]Having voted in more elections [ 14] than most of you, I applaud Tim Thomas's decision to forego another Obama political picture show. All Americans have the right to assemble and to protest. Tim is expressing his right and I agree with him .
    Posted by bogie6[/QUOTE]

    Well Bogie, I would respond to you by saying...

    (needle off the phonograph record sound)*

    14 elections?  Seriously?  My God, I didn't know there were any civil war veterans left.  Damn.  That's old. 


    * For all you youngsters, google phonograph record player.  Bogie6 must have one around the house that you hand crank.
     
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    None of us really know what his thoughts and intentions were. To have this conversation is ridiculous. If he is exercising his rights, then more power to him. Many people have made the ultimate sacrifice for the rights that we all enjoy...
    As a member of the US Armed Forces, I directly supported every president from Mr. Carter through George Jr. I can assure you I did not like their politics equally. We don't have to agree or understand. It just is what it is. Separate the man from the politics. He is still a world class goaltender on our Stanley Cup Champion Bruins!
    Stop being soooo petty.
     
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    [QUOTE]Yawn.
    Posted by Bookboy007[/QUOTE]

    shupe must be happy.  it's not a suspension/dirty hit thread.
     
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    [QUOTE]None of us really know what his thoughts and intentions were. To have this conversation is ridiculous. If he is exercising his rights, then more power to him. Many people have made the ultimate sacrifice for the rights that we all enjoy... As a member of the US Armed Forces, I directly supported every president from Mr. Carter through George Jr. I can assure you I did not like their politics equally. We don't have to agree or understand. It just is what it is. Separate the man from the politics. He is still a world class goaltender on our Stanley Cup Champion Bruins! Stop being soooo petty.
    Posted by TomOBrien[/QUOTE]

    Why do you keep bringing up 'rights' though?

    Of course he is within his rights.  We've all taken 5th grade civics.  But rights don't protect you from doing something stupid and disrespectful.  I'm a patriotic American that is neither a democrat nor a republican, and I think this is a very petty gesture to a non-political ceremony to honor a sports team.  Respect the office of the President, respect your country, and respect your team.  Bad form by Timmy.

     
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    Having voted in more elections [ 14] than most of you, I applaud Tim Thomas's decision to forego another Obama political picture show. All Americans have the right to assemble and to protest. Tim is expressing his right and I agree with him .
    Posted by bogie6


    Bogie6 drills what Red 75 and others miss.  The right to protest ends when you are on the rightwing? 'Occupy' is ok, forego isn't?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : Having voted in more elections [ 14] than most of you, I applaud Tim Thomas's decision to forego another Obama political picture show. All Americans have the right to assemble and to protest. Tim is expressing his right and I agree with him . Posted by bogie6 Bogie6 drills what Red 75 and others miss.  The right to protest ends when you are on the rightwing? 'Occupy' is ok, forego isn't?
    Posted by croc[/QUOTE]

    I couldn't care less if he's left or right, and I have no problem with his right to protest. I'm used to covering politics and know how distracting getting involved in a political story during an election season can be. That's my concern - how this may impact the Bruins. I have not made any statement about my own political beliefs, and my argument is not a political one.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : I must admit even a man from Finland showed more class then my own nephew today!!
    Posted by notacryingwino[/QUOTE]
    And you coming into a fan forum & thrashing a family member is just as classless as you claim your newphew to be, who up until now I no longer believe you are! And if you are? SHAME ON YOU! To come into a place full of people you don't know & trash a family member like this! You sir are the classless one! And I use sir very loosely! 
     
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    Fine form by Timmy.

    Its interesting that the Guardians of the Left who are complaining about disrepecting the office and calling it unpatriotic are the same Lefties that roasted the previous Office Holder with mind-boggling vitriol and responded to complaints about protesting the war as being "very patriotic."

    But as always, any rules for the Right never apply to the Left.  This we all know.

    Timmy, I have never been a fan of yours but you are suddenly one of my favorite people.

    And to all those "Bruins fans" who would attack me when I complained about Thomas giving up a bad goal who now want him banished to Siberia because he didn't play footsie with the Socialist in Chief... wow. Just wow.
     
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    Red...Most B's aren't American and couldn't care less about the politics.
     
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    wow alot of you guys feel pretty strongly about this political stuff.  Maybe TT does too.  I respect that he made a decision that is obviously the harder one to make then just shutting up and going.

    Dividing the team?  theres 2 americans on the bruins, i'm sure they'll survive.  If he wouldn't go meet the PM of Canada that may upset about 15 of them but I digress.
     
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    [QUOTE]Fine form by Timmy. Its interesting that the Guardians of the Left who are complaining about disrepecting the office and calling it unpatriotic are the same Lefties that roasted the previous Office Holder with mind-boggling vitriol and responded to complaints about protesting the war as being "very patriotic." But as always, any rules for the Right never apply to the Left.  This we all know. Timmy, I have never been a fan of yours but you are suddenly one of my favorite people. And to all those "Bruins fans" who would attack me when I complained about Thomas giving up a bad goal who now want him banished to Siberia because he didn't play footsie with the Socialist in Chief... wow. Just wow.
    Posted by SoxFanInIL[/QUOTE]



    Wonder what the responce would be if G.W. was in office and he didnt go?
    I remember we had somebody "manny being manny" and skipped out on G.W.
    I'm not right or left..  Just someone calling it like I see it.  I wouldn't want to shake the "mans" hand either.. Even if you could call Barrack a man... LOL

    I'm more worried about the Rangers in the postseason...
     
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    Turns out it was very much a political statement on Thomas' part and the "T" in Thomas stands for "Tea Party":

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/bruins-mvp-tim-thomas-skips-white-house-event-203636656.html

    So: might as well get this out the way now: Just as Cam Neely said, I respect Thomas' decision not to go. It's his choice, and if he feels trongly enough about politics that smiling w/Obama would be akin to eating his own vomit, fine...his choice.

    and since he's allowed to express HIS political opinions, I'll express MINE and say that Thomas is a great goalie but an absolute moron when it comes to politics, and that the very essence of TEAM SPORTS is sticking together and UNITING under a common cause, while all his Tea Bagger compatriots have done is express DIVISION and INTOLERANCE and views of ignorant extremism. (I.e. kick all the immgrants out and allow no exceptions...which is hypocritical in the extreme in Thomas' case since he would not have ever had teh chance to make it back to the NHL had he not been granted the opportunity to keep his career going in a foreign country (Finland) when no one else in the US would give him the time of day.

    Bottom line for THIS Bruins fan: I hope Thomas stops every puck that comes his way, but Tuukka is now my favorite goalie on the team, despite save percentage, and I wonder whether Thomas has had the chance to sit down with ANDREW FERENCE...who supports liberal causes proudly, and whether Thomas looks down on him for it.

    I certainly have lost all respect for Thomas as an individual at this point, and now I'm rooting for him solely b/c of the jesey he wears, and nothing more.

    His views have been made loud and clear, now mine have as well.

    Here's hoping Tuukka plays beyond Thomas and takes the #1 job so I don't have to root for a guy who roots for a political movement that was willing to run the country off an economic cliff (debt ceiling idiocy) rather than compromise with those they are supposed to be sharing the country with.
     
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    I'm greatfull for Timmy's dive to the right on the Downey save...if not for that his teammates might not have been at the White House today....other than that...not so much!!!
     
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    [QUOTE]Fine form by Timmy. Its interesting that the Guardians of the Left who are complaining about disrepecting the office and calling it unpatriotic are the same Lefties that roasted the previous Office Holder with mind-boggling vitriol and responded to complaints about protesting the war as being "very patriotic." But as always, any rules for the Right never apply to the Left.  This we all know. Timmy, I have never been a fan of yours but you are suddenly one of my favorite people. And to all those "Bruins fans" who would attack me when I complained about Thomas giving up a bad goal who now want him banished to Siberia because he didn't play footsie with the Socialist in Chief... wow. Just wow.
    Posted by SoxFanInIL[/QUOTE]

    Brilliant analysis.

    How many "socialists" would have saved Wall Street and continued the TARP bailout to do so (started under Bush)?
    How many "socialists" would have put Jeffrey Imelt--the head of GE--as his top economic advisor, or have Tim Geutner and Ben Bernanke--not exactly Woody Guthrie lefties by any stretch--heading his economic "brain trust"? Obama took $$$ from Goldman Sachs to fund his campaign. Socialist?????

    Do you even know what a socialist is? Do you have any clue as to what a real left wing administration would have done in '08? They would have nationalized every bank in the nation and danced on Wall street's grave....but hey, you think you're clever coming up w/"Socialist In Chief" even though every thing points to the contrary....and in my previous post--I pointed out fully that Thomas is welcome to his own political stance and has every right not to visit the WH if he doesn't agree w/the President....so who's tolerant and who's not?
     
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    [QUOTE]this is not cool by thomas, he isnt the only one to do this but it doesnt make it right. you should respect the office of the presidency of the U.S.
    Posted by fourrings[/QUOTE]

    How about respect for your teammates, who have to be embarrassed (not to mention harrassed by the media to find out why)? Isn't Thomas Candian? If it's coming from a disrespect for a foreign sovereign that's even worse. Typical "us vs. them" and "I won't even be civil to them" attitude that has destroyed all political decorum in this country. Just lost a ton of respect for him.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : How about respect for your teammates, who have to be embarrassed (not to mention harrassed by the media to find out why)? Isn't Thomas Candian? If it's coming from a disrespect for a foreign sovereign that's even worse. Typical "us vs. them" and "I won't even be civil to them" attitude that has destroyed all political decorum in this country. Just lost a ton of respect for him.
    Posted by pschuller[/QUOTE]

    Thomas is American, otherwise your post is spot-on.
     
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