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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : I am Timmys uncle, and have had many political discussions with him. I am one of the few here that knows what today was all about!
    Posted by notacryingwino[/QUOTE]

    The only thing you know about is BACK STABBING A FAMILY MEMBER with a bunch of strangers! from now on I'm calling you Judeus!
     
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    [QUOTE]Some folks feel that those who've been incredibly blessed,(making millions doing something the rest of us pay for) have an even greater reponsibility to speak up. Although I think TT bought himself a little more notoriety than he bargained for, I can't disrespect his decision.  In fact, I kinda admire anyone having the courage to put themself in a no-win situation, when the easy, comfortable thing would be to just shut up, and enjoy the champagne. Read an article just the other day.  The average American works until April 9th to pay state, federal, and local taxes.  In 1930, that same American worked less than 1 minute on Jan 2 to ante up. Unless completely blinded by political affiliation, most logical people are aware of the fact that government is way, way to big, and feeding that gas guzzling motor is taking a disproportinate amount of public funds. I see nothing disrespectful in TT's statement. Unfortunately, I don't see anything I disagree with much either. We're in the same situation here in Canada. As for the "hockey" ramifications....there are none.   These guys are used to co existing with many different personalities.
    Posted by stevegm[/QUOTE]
    Well said!
     
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    I perfer that respect be shown to an elected office (just as players must show respect to referees)
    but this is a free country, and TT is clearly entitled to excuse himself politely as he sees fit.
    From what I have seen, TT is politically a bit to the right for my taste, but even I respect and admire his
    hands-on concern for the welfare of the less advantaged.  I wish more Republicans were like him,
    so that I could maybe even vote for them.  From my view, TT walks the walk, and he has my best
    wishes.
    Go Bruins, and TT- don't you change a thing.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : Not sure about the analogy Nite. Let's leave it at that.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    When you think about it, the analogy is a good one. It's about certain lines you don't cross. Sure, Timmy may have put himself above everyone who works for the Boston Bruins, but what about the 1000's of others who support his decision? What about the numerous reasons he has for "not going"?  I applaude the guy because it's not easy to stand up alone & face the ridicule of others!
     
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    [QUOTE]I know it is hard to imagine but the only thing in this world a man can hold onto at the end of the day is his personal beliefs. It is correct to honor the President but like religion no one in a work enviornment and can impose political or religous views on you in this country. We have the right as Americans to vote and hold our own political beliefs sacred. We fought and died for that right. It may or may not been not the right venue but it his perspective and like the Bruins we should support his decision not his beliefs. It is not our place to judge. He goes out every night and gives us a whale of a game. He spills blood for us the fans. If his political views warrant that he should stay home than we can not impose our will upon him to anymore than play hockey. Movie Stars Boycott events all the time. I understand the honor that was bestowed upon him but if he declines it his business and the Bruin's handled it professionally and the way the should have.
    Posted by Macfact[/QUOTE]
    POST OF THE THREAD!!!
     
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    [QUOTE]Tim Thomas was born and raised in Flint Michigan. As everyone knows the city was turned into a ghetto by industry and government policies years ago. It affected Tim, and his family greatly. I suppose since he's a multi millionaire now ~ he should just show up in Washington and pretend like the first twenty years of his life didn't happen.
    Posted by jaymiller[/QUOTE]
    It was hardly the government that caused Flint's demise..
    http://www.dogeatdogfilms.com/synopsis.html

    He should have went, period
     
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    I just lost so much respect for Timmy. I did not vote for Obama or agree with alot of his work so far. I am republican but have always respected the position of our President. I support the President because I am a US citizen and I think no matter what, we ALL should support him. Its even more disappointing to find out that TT was only 1 of 2 Americans on the Team. Al he had to do was show up, shake hands, and move on. Who the F is TT to think he can make a statement like this?!? Looks very bad on the organization as well. Very very disappointed in TT. Lets go TUKKKKA!!!! PS- No hate for TT, but lost alot of earned respect that he had in my American book.
     
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    it is so ironic that on a forum where you can say whatever you want anonomously (sp?) that TT stands up for what he believes in and is crucified on the same site.  he comes from maybe the poorest town in the us and if all this negative attention gets one dollar towards his cause (whatever it is) then good for him.
     
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    Hhhhmmm.... TT and family must live in Southern NH. Ooops, sorry! Just win Tim.
     
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    LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, BABY...maybe he'd be happier back in Finland?!? ...JOKE...

    While it is hard to see how what happened to the economy of Flint in the 80's wasn't a flame fanned by the republican wind (republican President/Governor, and jobs leaving town to somewhere that they can pay workers less, all to feed the capitalist machine). Maybe he's just hoping to get some cross over/ capital one fame on the Colbert Report during the break?

    DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TT GOT HIS DEGREE AT VMU IN? It might be nice to know this was something he came to before his first 5 million dollar cheque cleared...
     
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    [QUOTE]LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, BABY...maybe he'd be happier back in Finland?!? ...JOKE... While it is hard to see how what happened to the economy of Flint in the 80's wasn't a flame fanned by the republican wind (republican President/Governor, and jobs leaving town to somewhere that they can pay workers less, all to feed the capitalist machine). Maybe he's just hoping to get some cross over/ capital one fame on the Colbert Report during the break? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TT GOT HIS DEGREE AT VMU IN? It might be nice to know this was something he came to before his first 5 million dollar cheque cleared...
    Posted by z-man1[/QUOTE]

    Accodingto NHL.com, he has a Bachelor's of English.
    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=394376
     
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    [QUOTE]it is so ironic that on a forum where you can say whatever you want anonomously (sp?) that TT stands up for what he believes in and is crucified on the same site.  he comes from maybe the poorest town in the us and if all this negative attention gets one dollar towards his cause (whatever it is) then good for him.
    Posted by Neecic[/QUOTE]

    he makes 4 million dollars, he came up from a poor town to make it big. Gee, America has really wronged him. He is living the American Dream and as the only American (sorry Kampfer was a backup), he could have shown some respect to his team, to his organization, and if he felt the way he felt, he could have even done an interview right there at the White House, saying exactly what he said on Facebook. Heck, he could have called out the President in his House, now that would be making a political statement.
     
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    [QUOTE]@ lambda13  I get where your coming from, but here's why it bugs me: it's intentionally divisive. It's an atttempt to merge politics and sports, and to hijack an event that's supposed to be a sign of respect from the commander in cheif in order to make a cheap political statement. It's adolescent. It's sad to see Tim Thomas caught up in the political  "us vs them" thinking that is curropting our country's national discourse.
    Posted by Olsonic[/QUOTE]exactly. i happen to be black and i happened to like thomas, bruins and the ebtire story.. now i see him differently (not the team) but i am sure many non-whites will take the leap and connect him (the high profile star) as symptomatic of the entire TEAM and LEAGUE! IT IS BEING TONE-DEAF, racialistic (not racist, non-whites are very sensitive when obama is involved like this) and unnecessarily divisive and it will hurt thomas' legacy. he's soiled the goodwill he has built up!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : wow it's scary to know that there are people who think like this. what are the consequences he will have to deal with? what will the US Fuhrer do with him for rejecting an invitation to the white house? being an activist and/or opposing the actions of the president is anti-american? it's weak minded people like you who also said it was anti-american to speak for racial equality in the 1950's. "where just not ready for that around here."
    Posted by ricky12684[/QUOTE]

    The consequences are already happening, idiot--it's called people calling him out for his selfishness, and the organization wondering why now TT is suddenly going to take a stand against Government. Also, you have the right to learn the English language---you meant "we're" not "where." He is a celebrity, and he became a giant one during the B's Cup Run and then his Card commercial. It's the good old USA that allowed him a chance to play on the Olympic team. It's the USA that gave him a chance to be a millionaire. He's paid for by an American team. If he wants to challenge the American government, there are lot better ways to do so then showing up the office of the President, and frankly deserting his fellow teammates on the Bruins. Maybe he can teach his kids how the U.S. Govt. made his life too tough. He's free and he's free to do what he wants. Tell him to take 2 million of his dollars and donate it to the homeless in his hometown. That's a far better gesture to make for guy who has been so wronged, so horribly tortured by the current U.S. government system. He can make a difference with his wallet, or maybe he didn't use his upper tax loopholes.
     
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    Good for Tim Thomas. He has every right to do what he thinks is right. I'd love to be a fly on the locker room wall (most of his teammates, as Canadians or Europenas, will be lauding the guy!).

    But I agree with the Boston Globe commentary - he should return the silver medal he won for his country at the Olympics. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
     
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    exactly, fairshake. Give back his medal if he is so sure the government and the country he grew up in has wronged him and his family and his hometown. It is very much a hypocrisy on his part.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : If there was a team event that went thru an African American neighborhood & put up crosses in their yards? Would the ones who didn't go not be a good teammate?
    Posted by nitemare-38[/QUOTE]

    Nite: you're comparing a visit to the White House to a meeting of the worst racist group in American history?

    Do you actually think this is a valid comparision? 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : Accodingto NHL.com, he has a Bachelor's of English. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=394376
    Posted by red75[/QUOTE]

    Thanks...I was hunting for that ever since I heard about his no-show...

    English you say?!? I'm not sure what books he would have been reading, but  
    Mark Twain once said: loyalty to the country always, loyalty to the politicians when they've earn it.

    ...BUT this was not the time or the place, to decided he came before team...
     
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    [QUOTE]Having voted in more elections [ 14] than most of you, I applaud Tim Thomas's decision to forego another Obama political picture show. All Americans have the right to assemble and to protest. Tim is expressing his right and I agree with him .
    Posted by bogie6[/QUOTE]

    You summed it up best.

    I love TT even more now than I did yesterday.
     
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    Jerks are made. not born. He joins a list of Ryder Cup golfers on my personal "S" list. Silver Spoon golfers, I cn almost understand, but a hockey player? That's too much.
     
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    It takes a bigger man to show up and break bread with those you despise, hate, or are disgusted with. Ask Shawn Thornton. Like I said earlier, be a man, and say what he said on Facebook on the lawn of the White House to a ton of global media. Show respect for your teammates, respect for your country, and still you get to make your point. Nope, I'd rather make a public statement by simply not showing.

     
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    Newsflash, I just heard that Tim Thomas has been traded to some team I have never heard of: the Montana Freemen?

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Thomas no-show : Nite: you're comparing a visit to the White House to a meeting of the worst racist group in American history? Do you actually think this is a valid comparision? 
    Posted by 49-North[/QUOTE]
    As I later said. Theres some lines you don't cross! Just because we or Thomas's teammates don't agree doesn't make him wrong, because there's a lot more others who agree with what he did! A nations flag doesn't constitute or symbolize a gov't.
    It's a symbol of beliefs & what our forefathers fought to uphold. When one feels that his gov't doesn't uphold what those fathers did. He doesn't have to show a fake front for NOBODY! Thomas in a lot of peoples eyes may have stopped being a hero to these hypocritical fans eyes & can ONLY see the Boston Bruins & NHL's & and their own points of view are the ones being selfish! Thomas became a hero to thousands of others that don't wear a Boston Bruins Jersey! And I bet he's fine with that.
     
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    Rick Monday saved the American Flag from publicly being burned by two I'm sure very strong-willed Americans showing their right to freedom of speech. Except they were desecrating the very flag many spilt their blood over, the same flag we stand for the national anthem, and the same flag our children pledge allegiance to. You have the right to march on Skokie, doesn't mean you do it. Tim Thomas burned the American Flag today. I'll cheer for him as a player who backstops the B's, but I don't have more respect for someone who really did get to live the American Dream and make money doing so. Again, just because you have the right to free-think, make political stands, there are places and times for one to do that. It was a ceremony celebrating the Boston Bruins. Thomas took a leak on it.

     
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