Good luck with your kid.....a little advice.....leave him be and let him find out about the world himself.  Don't fill up his head with the garbage in yours.  Give him a break. -------------------------------------------- Curt Schilling Deadbeat Fraud Fool
Posted by bellhorn_

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : Little advice. Don't talk about my kid. The world is a cruel, unfair place and doing what I do, I have a front row seat to it. My kid is going to grow up in a much more diverse world than I did, and I will do my best to prepare him for it. I grew up in a house where my father and grandfather shared the same thought process as Archie Bunker. I've sheilded all my kids from that kind of mind set. Like I said, when he hits the work force, theres a good chance he could be up against people who got extra points on a test becasue of the color of their skin. It happens now. Now is that being a racist or a realist? I don't live in Fantasy land, and when you suggest I have rocks in my head, tell that to the black family who is out with there 2 year old son today becasue I beat the ambulance to there apartment complex  and performed CPR on him two weeks ago. That boy is alive today with a perfectly functioning brain because I don't have rocks in my head. Now go back to talking about how the Sox can trade a rehabbing John Lackey and a 89mph throwing Josh Beckett.
Posted by kelvana33

trying to get a bigot to understand something is like trying to get a rock to understand something. -------------------------------------------- Curt Schilling Deadbeat Fraud Fool  
Posted by bellhorn_

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : These are just words. There is no content to back up these statements. You are an empty-minded person.
Posted by Olsonic

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : "Pretty much everything we've made progress on as a society has been done by ignoring religious doctrine... " You have already provided all the content. That is a sad, spiritually vacant and factually ignorant comment. It is as far removed from reality as one can get. Coming from someone with such a distorted view of the free world that we are fortunate enough to live in , I'll take "empty-minded as a compliment
Posted by JWensink

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : First off Mr lack of brain power - I never said I was opposed to same sex marriage - I'M NOT. I could care less what consenting adults do. It's none of anyone's business- including and most importantly the Fed Government. What I am opposed to is hypocrisy. People like you want to move the line of what THEY consider to 'be acceptable behavior" and then have everyone else conform or else be labeled as homophobic, racist, intolerant, etc..Which you have done with your response. You use the term "freedom of choice" as a way of changing what is and is not acceptable based purely on your own views. You have become the very thing you rail against. The "freedom of choice" you describe does not include those who have opposing views- like TT. There is a cultural meltdown in this country, and I've seen enough. We have reached a point where the man that stands up and states that marriage should be between a man and a woman is viewed is an extremist nutjob. The same people who advocate same sex marriage, and trumpet the virtues of freedom of choice- are also the same ones who will make it illegal to buy a large soda, or own a toilet that uses too much water. It's about control, and has got nothing to do with freedom.
Posted by JWensink

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : I enjoy it when the bible thumpers tell me that I'm "as far from reality as one can get" when I express skepticism that an all-powerful spirit in the clouds reads our thoughts, occasionally grants us wishes, and will one day come back from the dead and rapture all of the members of his cult to a place of complete happiness and leave the rest to burn in fire for eternity.  Sounds like a fairy tale to me. Sadly, you buy into it, never question it, and call people that don't buy into your bs-story "intolerant". Sorry, I won't sit idly by while fanciful children such as yourself attempt to make other Americans obey the worldview outlined in an obvious work of fiction. If you want to argue that although religion is complete bs, it gives many people a sense of community and social structure, which is a good thing... I could grant you a few of those points. Unfortunately, you haven't made any of those points so we can't openly prosecute them. As far as specifically Christianity standing in the way of progress, let's just say that from understanding the cosmos, to slavery, biology, to stem cell research, to contraceptive use, to women's rights, to the inquisition, to burning "heretics" for causing rainstorms, for exposing epileptics suffering from "demonic possession" to exorcisms, the history of the Christian faith and its respective establishment has not helped rid us from the very evil that it fears so much. Don't even get me started on Islam. Let's just say I'm thankful that Christianity at least went through a reformation and produced a new book that is less violent than the previous book; therefore, the consequences for delusional fundamental religious beliefs in the western world are generally more socially aggreeable than literalist Islam and it's brigade of bomb-strapped aspiring martyrs headed into crowds of children.
Posted by Olsonic

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : What a crock -"DIFFERENT VIEWS"  you really mean YOUR views And even more amazingly than that, it's people like you who really get to decide what is acceptable and what is not... because you are in essence stating what everyone should accept based on YOUR own views. If YOU decide to support gay marriage then anybody who disagrees gets attacked for taking such an absurd position - in YOUR view TT the nutjob believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman - right? You think gay marriage should be recognized by the Government- right? How about Polygamy? How about sharia law? Don't like those?  Why not? What's the difference beside the fact that YOU have decided what is acceptable. Then ... what YOU are really saying is that You know what's best for everybody else, and YOU will attack anybody who disagrees with what YOU feel is your enlightened position. It's not any high moral ground you're choosing- it's really about YOU telling everybody how to live based on YOUR own beliefs. You don't want to  "co-exist" with someone like TT- you want him to conform to what you arrogantly believe is best for everybody else.
Posted by JWensink

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : bump.  If you feel straw-manned, great, I'm happy you're less of a bible thumper than I pegged you for. But the person you are supporting (Tim Thomas) Is a bible thumper, and his position needs to be attacked as such.
Posted by Olsonic

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : Case closed Maybe someday you'll become enlightened enough to see the irony in your "attacks" ...Obviously you're not there yet
Posted by JWensink

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : I enjoy it when the bible thumpers tell me that I'm "as far from reality as one can get" when I express skepticism that an all-powerful spirit in the clouds reads our thoughts, occasionally grants us wishes, and will one day come back from the dead and rapture all of the members of his cult to a place of complete happiness and leave the rest to burn in fire for eternity.  Sounds like a fairy tale to me. Sadly, you buy into it, never question it, and call people that don't buy into your bs-story "intolerant". Sorry, I won't sit idly by while fanciful children such as yourself attempt to make other Americans obey the worldview outlined in an obvious work of fiction. If you want to argue that although religion is complete bs, it gives many people a sense of community and social structure, which is a good thing... I could grant you a few of those points. Unfortunately, you haven't made any of those points so we can't openly prosecute them. As far as specifically Christianity standing in the way of progress, let's just say that from understanding the cosmos, to slavery, biology, to stem cell research, to contraceptive use, to women's rights, to the inquisition, to burning "heretics" for causing rainstorms, for exposing epileptics suffering from "demonic possession" to exorcisms, to the demonization or normal sexual behavior whilst covering up a massive network of pedophiles enslaving orphan children, the history of the Christian faith and its respective establishment has not helped rid us from the very evil that it fears so much. Don't even get me started on Islam. Let's just say I'm thankful that Christianity at least went through a reformation and produced a new book that is less violent than the previous book; therefore, the consequences for delusional fundamental religious beliefs in the western world are generally more socially aggreeable than literalist Islam and it's brigade of bomb-strapped aspiring martyrs headed into crowds of children whist accompanied by the literal anticipation of paradise and virgins.
Posted by Olsonic

So will you describe the tolerant, judicious, progressive environment that your secular society produced in the 1800's in the United States? I'll do it for you: One with child labor, slavery, far less gender equality than we have today, and a dramatically inferior educational system. Do you know what became the impetus of change for those ills? Yes, its called the 2nd Great Awakening. A religious movement in the United States. From that religious movement came the direction, leadership, inspiration and often direct involvement in the Temperence Movement, Suffrage Movement, Public School Movement, and Abolitionist Movement. Amazing stuff for some lame-brain religious freaks to be involved with huh?
Posted by Sportsnutty

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : Case closed Maybe someday you'll become enlightened enough to see the irony in your "attacks" ...Obviously you're not there yet
Posted by JWensink

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : This post is bang on JWen.
Posted by Crowls2424

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : How is this case closed? You did nothing there but cut and paste something I said and then claim victory... what are you talking about? I went out of my way to undermine the religious defense that Tim Thomas and the social conservatives are using to protest gay marriage rights. You've made no such effort to support TT after vilifying several posters for calling him out. What am I missing here? Do you just not like it when people attack other people's beliefs? This sounds like some libertarian/relatavist/everyone-is-equally-wrong type stuff?
Posted by Olsonic

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book :  \ You mean gay marriage- right? Like I said, you're just not there yet
Posted by JWensink

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : 1st of all, just the term "progressive" implies that things were once worse. The founding fathers set up an unparalleled framework for our social structure thats been leaned on heavily as we've built a more stable and just society. Props to them. 2nd of all, I have no doubt that many self-identified religious people participated in the temperance movement, sufferage movement, abolitionist movement, etc. However, they didn't do so by literally adhering to their religious texts, they did so by relaxing their literalist views of scripture after certain biblical demands became untenable (such as the Old/New testaments obvious endorsement of slavery and women's inferiority). I would call the relaxing of scriptural literalism as "secular pressure".
Posted by Olsonic

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : Is this just a gut feeling you have? You seem unable to muster anything that resembles a reason to support Tim Thomas' position on gay marriage rights. Are the reasons that I am wrong unexplainable in actual words? This is a discussion forum. If you want credit for a position, you actually have to take the time to outline it.
Posted by Olsonic

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : I'll pray for you Ols!
Posted by nitemare-38

In Response to Re: Tim Thomas Had a one liner today on his face book : Dont you mean: A) The Founding Fathers chose not to address certain societal issues (slavery, women's rights, education) when framing the Constitution that religious groups took upon themselves to try to remedy with great success? B) What are you even talking about? The 2nd Great Awakening was a rebirth of scriptural adherence and saw a massive explosion of religious assembly and church-going. Seriously, your intellectual stubborness is getting in the way of facts my friend.
Posted by Sportsnutty

The great thing about Tiny Tim's self destruction over the past year and the B's early exit from the playoffs is that kids in New England will be spared being told that this silly jackasss is some kind of hero.  Better he end his time here in Boston in ridicule and disgrace -- all of which is his own doing.  The nitwits still defending him will disagree with that, of course....but at this point, you can pretty much put all of Tiny Tim's supporters in a phone booth.  Tight squeeze of right wingnuts/dopes.  Keep it up Tiny.....at least he's good for a few laughs at this pont....I know that I'm enjoying it all. ----------------------------------------- Curt Schilling Deadbeat Fraud Fool  
Posted by bellhorn_