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    Ah, one more game.  But in due respect to the massively misplaced investment of time and energy by so many committed people, we know who we are, I think it should be resurrected in August around the time rosters start to take shape and players thoughts turn to camp.  We'll be able to speculate about whether the new round of college free agents and second tier free agents Burke acquires will make the Leafs the third worst team next year or cause them to take a step back.

    Just the one, though, 'cause, welll....

    The absolute best part of this?  I despise the Laffs at all times, but this time the Bruins directly benefit from their awfulness.  That's double your pleasure double your fun time.

    Teams I despise enough that, when they play, I support the zebras: Toronto, Montreal, Calgary. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Toronto Record Tracker : Down this last stretch I could have sworn the Panthers were tanking it ! Good observation Numba !
    Posted by BsLegion

    I just hope neither Tampa or Florida gets 1 of the top 2 picks (especially Tampa).

    Both have good young teams with solid goaltending.
     
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    Toronto Will improve. They will make the playoffs next year amid it will be nailing the 7th or 8th spot.

    They have money to spend and burke has made sure to get rid of most of his players via trade deadline so he can have some money to spend over this summer

    They will get one decent Centremen, Defenseman , get stud pick Kadri to join them , possibly sign another vet forward.
     
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    For the first time all year, I am really hoping for the Leafs on Saturday night.  Beat the Habs.  The best would be if the Habs were the team that finishes in 9th.
     
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    So Bruins win, Isles lose, Panthers win, Lightning win and you would think that nothing will change Toronto's lock on last place in the Eastern Conference.
    But what if
    the NHL changes the rules?  After all, crazier things have happened.  They made it a  rule that you can't intentionally check someone in the head.
     
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    Think about this for next year, how much can Toronto improve? 

    And then consider that TB, FLA, Islanders and Canes will certainly improve improve through the draft.  Certainly TB and Canes were underperforming this year.  Certainly Edmonton will improve through the draft.

    So I see that Toronto can't improve that much and the other bottom feeders will get that much better.  I think Atlanta might move into the low rent district, I'm not so sure about any others.
     
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    Notice how TB and Panthers suddenly win now that Toronto has 29th spot clinched.
     
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    Kadri's pretty good, and Ron Wilson recently implied that he'd have kept Kadri this year if the Laffs hadn't had so much money tied up in Jason Blake, Matt Stajan, and others that he had to play the vets.  The Laffs also play a very rookie-friendly style - lots of emphasis on athleticism and speed and creativity, less on structure and responsibility.  That's a good split for a rookie with high-end skills.  Will he make Toronto a playoff team?  No, not on his own. 

    Here's the real thing for the Laffs, pending FAs etc. - they are paper thin.  If Phaneuf gets injured, they won't be better than they were this year.  If Kessel is injured, they will not be better than this year.  If Gustafsson goes down for any stretch, they'll be even worse than this year.  If Bozek and Stahlberg and Gunnarson struggle in games that matter, they're in real trouble.  Just to be a playoff bubble team, I think the Laffs need a lot of injury luck next year.  The right injury or two and Boston's wondering if the hockey gods have finally started to favour them.
     
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    One more gift from Burke and the Leafs, beat the habs and eliminate them from the playoffs.
     
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    We're gonna have to keep this thread going another season. I can't wait to watch it again :)
     
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    "On the Fan590 this afternoon, Brian Burke told the Toronto viewers that he plans to trade two defencemen before the season starts. “We have 10 NHL caliber defencemen, and we’ll trade two before the season begins.” Burke told Bob McCown this afternoon. That ensures Tomas Kaberle will be playing in a new uniform, EDIT: Though shall not copy and paste year ol links before afternoon 5 hour energy or triple espresso! Foot in mouth

    Next coulpe of days will be interesting for the Leafs. Kabrele has to sign off on any deal after Aug. 15th because his NTC kicks back in. So we'll see what a desperate Burke  must take for Tomas now that that date is getting closer.
     
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    6 months of posts and considerable time, 6 months of rooting for Leafs defeats, I feel like I've worked for this lottery pick and Christmas day has finally come and I've been good all year. Now the only question is, how big will the present be?
    Posted by BadHabitude


    And not only 6 months of rooting for Leafs defeats, but also 6 months of rooting for teams that were in danger of falling below the Leafs in the standings, teams that I normally would not have any interest in rooting for (even sometimes against Boston) .... Montreal, TB, Fla, NYI, Carolina, Columbus, etc.
     
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    "On the Fan590 this afternoon, Brian Burke told the Toronto viewers that he plans to trade two defencemen before the season starts. “We have 10 NHL caliber defencemen, and we’ll trade two before the season begins.” Burke told Bob McCown this afternoon. That ensures Tomas Kaberle will be playing in a new uniform, given that Schenn, Beauchemin, Komisarek, Finger and Van Ryan are going no where. I would expect one of Ian White, Anton Stralmen or the newly acquired Garnet Exelby to be the other. Jonas Frogren has little or no value outside of Toronto." Next coulpe of days will be interesting for the Leafs. Kabrele has to sign off on any deal after Aug. 15th because his NTC kicks back in. So we'll see what a desperate Burke  must take for Tomas now that that date is getting closer.
    Posted by SanDogBrewin


    Didn't Van Ryn just retire?
     
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    6 months of posts and considerable time, 6 months of rooting for Leafs defeats, I feel like I've worked for this lottery pick and Christmas day has finally come and I've been good all year. Now the only question is, how big will the present be?
    Posted by BadHabitude


    I was just telling my girlfriend that it feels like Christmas day and I can't wait to open my present. She looked at me like I had two heads. She dosn't get it. (Leaf fan)
     
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    Kadri may end up being a real good player and maybe a star, but it won't happen next year in time to save the Leafs from giving us another lottery pick.  The larger issue will be how well Burke spends his available money this summer.
     
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    Kadri a star in Juniors and looked good against our prospects in preseason but could not make the present leaf team.
     
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    Heard Wilson in an interview basically anointing Dion as the next leaf captain!!!  he said unless they sign an "All time great Caption type"...Dion will be it.  And again the reason given is because..."he's vocal"....hahahahahaha.  So is my Scottish terrier.

    The rookies only respect him because they haven't met enough donkey head cases in their short NHL time.  His act as captain and leafs becoming good will never go hand in hand imo.  If the media intensity was enough to scare away talented UFA's, no respected NHL vet will ever sign with them if this clown is given the C.

    I can't wait for tonight's top 3 present.  Too bad we only get to do this 1 more time!!!

     
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    On his radio program today, former Leaf GM said the 2010 draft has the potential to "cripple the Leafs for years while rebuilding the already competitive Bruins."  He noted the Leafs have millions tied up in Kessel, while the B's have lottery picks, hopefully potential impact additions, this year and next, all at entry-level dollars. 

     
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    Yeah, it was fun to have the three from the Whale back in the day.  That went okay, but it could have gone oh, so much better. Drafted McLaren two spots ahead of Iginla in 1995.  Drafted Sean Brown later in the first, then Paxton Schaefer and Bill McAuley (combined 3 NHL games) before Marc Savard's name was called by NYR in the fourth round.  1996 was the worst of the three picks - Jonathan Aitkin - but that may be the ugliest draft of the past 30 years.  There isn't a single point/game player 14 years later.  The top scorer is Briere with 473 points in 591 games.  Chris Phillip was the #1 pick.  There were decent D in that draft - Chara,  Morris, Kubina, Kaberle, Willie Mitchell, Ruslan Salei, Colin White - but not much else.  The Bruins didn't have their own #1 having dealt it with Czerkoffski and Brown for the second coming of Bill Ranford as a band-aid on their misplaced faith in Blaine Lacher. 

    1997 was easily the best of the three years.  The only way they could have done better than Samsonov - assuming they wanted scoring - was Marian Hossa.  He went four picks later, but if Samsonov doesn't go through all those wrist problems, he might have kept pace with Marian.  Great skill that kid.  Luongo was the only starting goaltender to be drafted that year - David Aebischer is the only other guy to play 100 games!  And the D was nothing to write home about with Brian Campbell as the top scoring D, and he was a project, followed by Paul Mara and Joe Corvo.  Brewer, Hannan, Rachunek, and Andrew Ference round out the guys who've had decent moments in their careers.  Bruins whiffed their way through every pick beyond #8 overall, though.  Remember any of these guys?
    Ben Clymer - drafted at D, forced his way to Free Agency, played 438 games
                      mostly for TBay
    Mattias Karlin
    Lee Goren - 67 mostly ineffectual 4th line games
    Karol Bartanus
    Denis Timofeyev
    Joel Trottier
    Jim Baxter
    Antti Laaksonen - Gets a pension for playing over 400 games as a defensive
                             specialist - but did very little for the Bs.
    Eric van Acker
    Jay Henderson - Mr. Irrelevant.
     
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    6 months of posts and considerable time, 6 months of rooting for Leafs defeats, I feel like I've worked for this lottery pick and Christmas day has finally come and I've been good all year.

    Now the only question is, how big will the present be?
     
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    In Response to Re: Toronto Record Tracker : Burke has 7Mil to spend this summer if he trades one of his best players Kaberle to free up space he will then need to replace that player. 14Mil for 3 players or 7Mil for 2 players will not fill all the holes that Toronto have. They will not finish with 2nd worst record but they will not make the playoffs either. Carolina will be back in the playoffs next year so there will be no room.
    Posted by SanDogBrewin



    I don't believe you can make any real accurate guesses. This league has achieved parity and the difference between the best team and the worst is infinitely closer than the days of the Cleveland Barons and the Montreal Canadians.

    I think you can only predict the generalities, playoff vs. non-playoff, top playoff teams and worst non-playoff teams.

    For the Leafs I would say a non-playoff team and it would not surprise me if they were near or at the bottom again.

    I would be surprised if Leafs make the playoffs.
    I would be surprised if TB and Carolina did not make the playoffs.
    I would be surprised if Atlanta makes the playoffs.

    It would not surprise me to see the Flyers and/or Rangers go into free fall.  Lundqvist might be pulling a Raycroft.  Without real solid goaltending, the Rangers could fall apart. 

    I think Buffalo will get a little worse next year.

    I think NJ will be worse next year, Brodeur, seems to be developing some cracks in his rock hard foundation.

    Caps rule again.

    Bruins will probably be a little better.

    I wouldn't bet any money on any of my predictions, other than the Caps and Pens making the playoffs or something like that.

    For the Leafs, I see nothing to get excited about.  Nazem Kadri - a "super stud" as I saw in one of the magazines - that would surprise me.
     
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    Tomorrow night dudes and gals we can have a drink n toast in honor of Brian Burke! Then TuukkaInNet can do the honor of starting another thread the "Toronto's 2011 #1 Pick Record Tracker" LoL! Wink
     
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    Kadri may end up being a real good player and maybe a star, but it won't happen next year in time to save the Leafs from giving us another lottery pick.  The larger issue will be how well Burke spends his available money this summer.
    Posted by soxpeat



    I agree, I don't think Kadri will amount to anything next year either.

    With all things being equal, I don't see why a FA would want to sign for Toronto if give a choice.  Highest pressure atmosphere that there is for hockey, I can't imagine that you can step out of your house without being recognized and especially with the Leafs not doing well.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't all those Leafs they traded away doing a lot better since they left the Leafs?

    We'll see.  If sports predictions were anywhere near accurate the bookies or bettors would all be billionaires.

    From where I sit, I don't see the Leafs getting much better.  I don't see them with that much cap space.  I think the days of getting bargains on the FA market and steal trades are drying up.  With the salary cap all these GM's are having to get smarter.  Your only hope in this league is building through the draft and that's it.
     
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    Amen Brother! The Leafs will be giving a lottery pick to the B's again next year. Don't forget that the Canes were injured this year and will bounce back, the Isles are getting better, the Oilers were injured and should get out of the basement. Tampa has some great players so I don't see them playing as bad. 2011 will be one tough year for Toronto!
     
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    Love it!  Kaberle has basically said it's either me or Wilson, one of us has to go.  He's talking through his father to keep the volume down. So while it is not exactly a Roy situation, it's close, in that they won't get good market value for him because now everyone knows that he is basically demanding a trade. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=331099
    Posted by BadHabitude


    Meh, I almost think Toronto would be better without Kaberle on the ice. He's been looking old, slow and uninterested. Off the ice, I'd say definitely. He's not a happy camper (can't blame him), so as a Bruins fan I hope he sticks around and spreads gloom all season long. ;-)
     
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