Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from 49thparallel. Show 49thparallel's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    No - starting with cap space...
     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from JYaso. Show JYaso's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Your Kidding me--- makes absolutely no sense and why would the Bruins want to be stuck with a 15 year contract.  The Devils dug their own grave, and team is burried because of it.
     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from yaz16. Show yaz16's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Devils believed such a deal would be a bargain in the long run. The deal should really be equat to 10 year at 10 million per season. For cap reasons its lengthen out to 5 more years. 

    Look at his past stats and he has scored alot of points. He is a legit 40-50 goal scorer. I bet he has it in him for the next 5 years to do this and at least 30 the next 3 years after

    NJ devils is a bad fit for Kovalchuk and vice versa. They are ready to rebuild already

    The bruins could really use his offense, especially if they are serious to make a run this year. 

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from shuperman. Show shuperman's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    The Devils are attempoting to rid themselves of bad contracts and would have no interest in Savy who doesnt hold a lot of value on the trade market.  So part A. is a no.  Part B is me wanting no part of Alex KovalYashin and his disgusting contract.  He along with Kessel will score the most meaningless goals in hockey history. 

    We need a scoring winger and a top 4 dman.
    Penner
    Greene or Phillips.
    Stanely Cup
     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from yaz16. Show yaz16's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    In Response to Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea:
    No - starting with cap space...
    Posted by 49thparallel


    You can make the trade work . Kovalchuk = 6.6 million
    Horton or Lucic = 4 million , Stuart = close to 2

    Maybe add another body like Paille
     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from Not-A-Shot. Show Not-A-Shot's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Dang!  I was hoping for a funny joke.  Instead I got a serious post about acquiring Kovalchuk.

    Booooooooooooooo.
     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from Stuke50. Show Stuke50's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

     Trade for Kovalchuk if he comes with enough lead to keep him from floating around the Garden and of coarse Kovalav come with !!!
     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from thedauber1. Show thedauber1's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    In Response to Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea:
    Devils believed such a deal would be a bargain in the long run. The deal should really be equat to 10 year at 10 million per season. For cap reasons its lengthen out to 5 more years.  Look at his past stats and he has scored alot of points. He is a legit 40-50 goal scorer. I bet he has it in him for the next 5 years to do this and at least 30 the next 3 years after NJ devils is a bad fit for Kovalchuk and vice versa. They are ready to rebuild already The bruins could really use his offense, especially if they are serious to make a run this year. 
    Posted by yaz16



    devils are a bad fit for kovy.....so are the bruins
     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from SanDogBrewin. Show SanDogBrewin's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    The Devils defense is a bad fit for New Jersey that team got old quick.
     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from fordprefect. Show fordprefect's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    FFF Kovalchuk
     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from BruinBuff. Show BruinBuff's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Sorry , underachiving player who is a -32?... We just got rid of Wideman and now you want him back?
     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from red75. Show red75's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Wait, what? I was expecting sarcasm... but you actually want to trade for Kovalchuk???

    The player with the longest contract and worst plus minus in the league? And bring him to another defence minded team? He's only in the top 30 in one offensive category - game winning goals, and he's tied there in 26th spot with nearly a dozen guys including Lucic.

    Let the Devils deal with their deal with the Devil. 
     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from Bookboy007. Show Bookboy007's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    What's Russian for "is this e-harmony"?
     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from JWensink. Show JWensink's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    His contract is real bad, but his talent is still immense...too bad it's 10 yrs
     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from Homebrew76. Show Homebrew76's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Kovalchuk has looked like he's been completely dis-interested in playing since he got is big fat contract.   Remember the shootout where he lost control of the puck!   His head is out of it and as such he is a blight to his team.  

    There is no way anyone in the league will take on kovalchuk and his contract unless the Devils throw in some picks and get back nothing more than a spare part.
     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from dezaruchi. Show dezaruchi's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    In Response to Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea:
    Dang!  I was hoping for a funny joke.  Instead I got a serious post about acquiring Kovalchuk. Booooooooooooooo.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot

    I still had a good laugh.
     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from niftybear. Show niftybear's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Why would anyone want to inherit New Jersey's mess? Kovalchuk is an anchor right now with that contract.
     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from rolerhoky19. Show rolerhoky19's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    The devils invested 15 years in kovalchuk as a proven scorer, why would they want to cut ties after one down season? and if he is that bad and that big of a problem why do we want to acquire him??
     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from stevegm. Show stevegm's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    In Response to Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea:
    Your Kidding me--- makes absolutely no sense and why would the Bruins want to be stuck with a 15 year contract.  The Devils dug their own grave, and team is burried because of it.
    Posted by JYaso


    Absolutely correct.  That's how fast things change.  6 months ago everyone wanted Kovulchuck...if they could afford him.  No one wants that contract now though.
     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from bgrif008. Show bgrif008's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Big Contracts are stupid and basically seals the players fate....Cavlier (spelled wrong) is in the same boat....Kovalchuck is stuck in NJ for the rest of his playing years....What a waste.... 
     
  21. You have chosen to ignore posts from rolerhoky19. Show rolerhoky19's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Cavlier spelled wrong, and missing some syllables, and starts with an "L" by the way...
     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from Bookboy007. Show Bookboy007's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    roler's got a pretty smart point here that goes against the usual grain.  NJ signed Kovalchuk to be a go-to scorer for 15 years, not just for a Cup run this year.  Don't get me wrong; they must have thought they had the horses if they were bringing in Arnott, Tallinder, and Volchenkov, but their defense corps is abysmal as a whole, and Brodeur hasn't been Marty Brodeur since he lost the starting job at the Olympics.  But they also had to look at the long term and know that most players have down years.

    At the end of this year, Kovalchuk will still have 93.3% of his contract to play out.  Map that onto a single season, and you're talking about judging the player based on 5 games and two periods.  As Wensink points out, you're still talking about one of the purest scorers in the league even if he hasn't figured out how to work within the Devil systems or the weight of the massive expectations created by what they paid to get him.  He was a point/game player last year in NJ, so he can be a top line scorer for the Devils.

    And a lot can change in 15 years of NHL hockey.  15 years ago, the shoddy play of Blaine Lacher and Craig Billington forced the Bruins to send Mariusz Czerkoffski to Edmonton for Bill the retread Ranford.  Davis Payne was a Bruin depth forward, not the Blues coach.  Kyle McLaren was an 18 yr. old rookie.  The Bruins dealt coke-headed underachiever Kevin Stevens to the Kings for Rick Tocchet.  Adam Oates had 92 points, Ray Bourque 82, and President Cam had 26 goals in 49 games.  This, of course, was the year of the infamous Kasper benching....

    Even 10 years ago - At 25, Jason Allison looked like a rising star with 95 points, but he was being pushed by 21yr olds Samsonov (75pts) and Thornton (71 - including his career high of 37 goals; that was the player I wanted to stay in Boston for the duration).  The Bruins took a flier on Paul Coffey being Ray's replacement (NOPE!), and were still hoping maybe Cam Mann, Lee Goren, Eric Manlow, Shawn Bates, Joe Hulbig, or Erik Nickulas could develop into top 6 players on a team that dropped off a cliff, talent-wise, after the three young forwards plus Guerin (29yr old Billy) and Rolston.  Dafoe was among the league leaders in GAA.  Razor Raycroft played a stretch while Dafoe was hurting and looked like the future - and he was, just as a trade chip for Rask.

    Not one guy from the 2000-01 roster is still a Bruin.  Only 7 guys from that roster are still NHLers (some are just barely hanging on) - Thornton, Samsonov, Rolston, Knuble, Boynton, Raycroft, and Gill.

    In other words, with Kovalchuk's talent, he may yet be the guy who can get them ring #4.  And they'll need another guy to be the guy because it won't be Marty again.

     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from BuzzardBoots. Show BuzzardBoots's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Two words: Rick DiPietro.

    Apples and oranges due to positions (goaltender vs. forward) but NJ made the same mistake their neighbors to the northeast did - a 15 year deal.

    It may seem like a great idea at the time... but it's like taking out a 15 year loan on a sweet car you really can't affor in order to keep the payments down.  You're still making payments long into the contract - only, eventually, you're also paying for repairs.

    In other words - Much like NYI and DiPietro, NJD are stuck with Kovalchuck for the foreseeable future.  He might become attractive to teams sometime around 2016... and that's if he ever finds his game again.
     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from I-Like-Hockey. Show I-Like-Hockey's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    In Response to Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea:
    Big Contracts are stupid and basically seals the players fate....Cavlier (spelled wrong) is in the same boat....Kovalchuck is stuck in NJ for the rest of his playing years....What a waste.... 
    Posted by bgrif008


    You mean LeCavalier
     
  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from rolerhoky19. Show rolerhoky19's posts

    Re: Trade Savard or Trade for Kovalchuk idea

    Buzzard,
    its a calculated risk, not necessarily stupid, way to early to judge.. Washington signed Ovie to a 13 year deal, you hear very little about that..
     
Sections
Shortcuts

Share