Re: Trading Ryder
posted at 11/23/2010 10:27 AM EST
In Response to Re: Trading Ryder
In a league where you may only get one crack at the cup I would do that deal and twice on sundays. Before I get your reply I will do a break down of the moveable parts. a. 1st round pick. Likely gonna be in the late round lets just say 25th overall. Why we can do it: We have the leafs 1st overall pick and we cripple them by taking their best player(meaning more L's and a greater chance at #1 overall). This yrs draft isnt great past the 1st 10. b. Wheeler- 4th liner with some potential. Gladly part with him for a rental and a legit shot at Stanley. c. Sturm- Salary dump who isnt in our lineup anyway. Parts obtained: Kaberle- Top 4 Dman-20+ minute guy who would fit like PB&J. He moves the puck and would anchor the PP(Vital in the playoffs). Ryder for a 5th rounder. = Salary dump in order to land a player at the deadline. The snag in this could be giving our 1st rounder to the Leafs and not having the parts to land another player via trade. I believe adding Kaberle sends us to the top of the East. I believe adding another player2-3rd line depth guy at the deadline also makes us the favorites. We saw what Philly did with a top 4 pairing. And the Bruins could be this yrs Philly. Its possible. Why not take a run at the cup this year. We have a surplus 1st rounder and want rid of Sturm/Ryder anyway
Posted by shuperman
I agree with most of what you're saying here Shuperman. I'm not sure losing Kaberle actually impacts the Leafs as much as you think it does. On this Leaf team, Kaberle is less then effective in my opinion. There aren't enough quality players up front to take advantage of his offensive creativity. Similiarly, outside of Schenn, there isn't a good defensive partner to make up for Kaberle's shortcomings on defence. On a team, like the Bruins, he becomes a key offensive catalyst with enough defensive support (both the Bruins system overall and their defensive minded backend) to offset his weaknesses.
Chara and Kaberle on the powerplay would be formidable, IMHO.
What would it cost? I think Wheeler and a 2nd rounder would be more then enough OR/ Take a bad contract like Ryder's and the Bruins 1st pick (late 1st rounder).
I'm not sure I'd give up on Wheeler, if I was the Bruins, but seems like a lot of folks on this forum are down on him. I think the Ryder move would be more palatable for the Bruins, especially with Sturm and Savard coming back.
I think Burke would make both deals.
I've always contended that Kaberle to Boston would be a great fit for the Bruins and could make the difference in the playoffs, especially given how important PP's are. Kaberle is also very good at making that 1st pass up ice, something the Bruins are really lacking.
It's a good deal for the Leafs too, they get younger and can hopefully get a better up front and it wouldn't make them that much better this year to impact the 1st round pick 1 way or the other.
Ofcourse, the little detail around giving up the no-trade clause may be the deal breaker. I don't think Kaberle moves without a contract extension guaranteed and I'm not sure what kind of money he'd be looking at and if that fits Boston's cap situation. Details.......
If I was Kaberle, Boston would be an ideal situation if he's at all interested in playing for a Cup contender before he's done.