unbreakable stick - finally

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    Zdeno be praised, thy will be done.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/trying-to-break-the-unbreakable-stick/

     
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    Wow.

     
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                                                     "for a retail sticker of $269.99, a price"

     

    Jack Edwards "will endorse and do free ads for some of these at once" says his agent. First I want too see this tested by Dennis Wideman, then I will be convinced. Wides has a way of defying science and gravity LoL

     

     
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    I am 100%, make that 110% percent skeptical.

    "Unbreakable" I would think would be pretty easy, BUT also include something that has flex to it?

    I think this is a hoax.

     
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    Remember the round one piece koho came out with years ago, that was suppose to be unbreakable.
    I'm not totally sold on this until NHL players in an NHL game prove it's unbreakable. And just becuase it's unbreakable doesnt mean it's good either. They might not like it. How much does it weigh?

     

     

     
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    Remember the round one piece koho came out with years ago, that was suppose to be unbreakable.
    I'm not totally sold on this until NHL players in an NHL game prove it's unbreakable. And just becuase it's unbreakable doesnt mean it's good either. They might not like it. How much does it weigh?

     

     



    According to the article, 455 grams.

     

    Did some quick research on the company and found they're also working this tech into golf clubs and racing bikes.

    http://www.integran.com/services/plating-on-composites/

    Haven't seen any reviews though.

     
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    IF it can truly withstand the rigors of actual play (lets just say semi-unbreakable), this kid is gonna be one rich sumbitch.

     

    it may play like a teflon frying pan for all we know.

     
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    The major stick brands will do everything they can to prevent this. Just smart business.

     
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    Now you tell me.  Just paid $259 for a Vapor APX2 for my son.  

     
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    The major stick brands will do everything they can to prevent this. Just smart business.




    Yes that kid will be potrayed as a Communist and Socialist with days. Lobbying 101 LOL

     
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    Now you tell me.  Just paid $259 for a Vapor APX2 for my son.  




    eegads!  full retail price?

     
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    The major stick brands will do everything they can to prevent this. Just smart business.




    Right.  

    Just like the car companies prevented that carburator that gets 100 miles to the gallon.

    That was sarcasm.

    What are you talking about?

    How the hell are they going to prevent it?  

    Get a law passed?  Send in spies?  Smear tactics?

    IF this is true, and IF the stick has the right "feel" - which is more important than durability, the major vendors will have to compete with it.

    And how much will this thing cost?  I'm not going to pay 3k for a stick.

     
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    In response to hangnail's comment:

    Now you tell me.  Just paid $259 for a Vapor APX2 for my son.  




    eegads!  full retail price?




    Hockey Monkey...where else should I look?

     
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    In response to BadHabitude's comment:

    In response to Rufus604's comment:

    The major stick brands will do everything they can to prevent this. Just smart business.




    Right.  

    Just like the car companies prevented that carburator that gets 100 miles to the gallon.

    That was sarcasm.

    What are you talking about?

    How the hell are they going to prevent it?  

    Get a law passed?  Send in spies?  Smear tactics?

    IF this is true, and IF the stick has the right "feel" - which is more important than durability, the major vendors will have to compete with it.

    And how much will this thing cost?  I'm not going to pay 3k for a stick.



    How about paying them an absurd amount for the technology and then never marketing them. The inventor gets paid and the stick companies continue to sell their fragile $200 sticks.

     
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    In response to hangnail's comment:

    In response to BadHabitude's comment:

    In response to hangnail's comment:

    Now you tell me.  Just paid $259 for a Vapor APX2 for my son.  




    eegads!  full retail price?




    Hockey Monkey...where else should I look?




    ebay during the summer especially, if you target sticks before he needs one you can bid really hard.  I have 3 new sticks waiting in backup.

    Pure Hockey during their tent sale - this is where you can get real good deals.  They are typically in summer tho.  At the summer sale I got Warrior Dynasty pro returns for $80 a pop, so I bought a couple.  They also have specials, too -  I bought a Bauer APX with special graphics on it for $195.

    Can he fit into a Senior stick?  If so, then check the pro stock.  Problem is they usually have weird curves and are unreal stiff, so you will have to hunt.  The Monkey has pro stock sticks.

    Those 2 options have kept me stocked up, but since composites are exactly alike if for the curve and flex from the same company, just google shop and junt for deals on the internet.  Perani's looks like it has a sale now for APXs for $199.

    And worst to absolute worst you can get deals if you buy more than 1 at a time, at least you can shave off a few bucks that way.

     

     

     
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    How about paying them an absurd amount for the technology and then never marketing them. The inventor gets paid and the stick companies continue to sell their fragile $200 sticks.




    So I'm the inventor.  And I know that everyone who plays will buy my stick.  So the amount of money I'm looking for is the cost of my stick times the number of hockey players in the world.  So what I'm saying is "absurd" would be quite absurd - so much that it would be cheaper to compete with me.

    Also, the "fragile" composite sticks are b.s., yes, the pros break them, but their sticks have more carbon fiber and less fiber glass so that they are lighter.  My carbon fiber sticks last for ages.  I've been getting a year out of them easy.  I play anywhere from once a week to every day depending and I take my fair amount of slap shots.  The thing about a composite breaking is that it is always the shaft, the blades almost never break.  With the wood sticks, the blades broke all the time, but it wasn't as dramatic looking, and with the wood sticks the shafts almost never broke on them.

     
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    In response to kelvana33's comment:

    Remember the round one piece koho came out with years ago, that was suppose to be unbreakable.
    I'm not totally sold on this until NHL players in an NHL game prove it's unbreakable. And just becuase it's unbreakable doesnt mean it's good either. They might not like it. How much does it weigh?

     

     



    According to the article, 455 grams.

     

    Did some quick research on the company and found they're also working this tech into golf clubs and racing bikes.

    http://www.integran.com/services/plating-on-composites/

    Haven't seen any reviews though.




    You can pre order one for $284 

     

     
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    Yes but the lump sum payment can be quite eniticing. Many would hold out to see if the technology took over the industry, many may not. I go throught about 3 sticks a year on average although last year I used 1 all season. I broke 2 this year already though.. At 279 a stick I would buy one if it lasted as long as they say. But if they do last that well that company is only going to get that out of me once or twice in my lifetime. If im Reebok I try to buy them out.  Wasn't there a conspiracy theory about the endless light bult similar to this?

     
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    So I'm the inventor.  And I know that everyone who plays will buy my stick.  So the amount of money I'm looking for is the cost of my stick times the number of hockey players in the world.  So what I'm saying is "absurd" would be quite absurd - so much that it would be cheaper to compete with me.

    Also, the "fragile" composite sticks are b.s., yes, the pros break them, but their sticks have more carbon fiber and less fiber glass so that they are lighter.  My carbon fiber sticks last for ages.  I've been getting a year out of them easy.  I play anywhere from once a week to every day depending and I take my fair amount of slap shots.  The thing about a composite breaking is that it is always the shaft, the blades almost never break.  With the wood sticks, the blades broke all the time, but it wasn't as dramatic looking, and with the wood sticks the shafts almost never broke on them.



    As cool as they sound, I can't see them making a huge difference in my game, in fact I can't see them making much of a difference for most women except at the elite level. Back when I used wood sticks I was constantly breaking my blades, but with the composite that's not an issue anymore. And let's be honest - I simply don't have enough power behind my shot to break a stick with a slapshot unless by fluke. Only time I've broken the shaft of a composite midgame was from a bad slash, and that was after a full season of playing with it almost. Usually if I break them it's after I've retired them and am using them for road hockey with my nephews and nieces.

    That said if they're comparable in price then I'd likely pick one up just to save a few bucks long term if I could get two or more seasons out of it.

     
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    I bet they use graphene, or a derivative.  If the sheets are wide enough, breaking them will be tough.

     
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    November issue of USA Hockey magazine had a quick article on this company as well.

     
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    I bet they use graphene, or a derivative.  If the sheets are wide enough, breaking them will be tough.




    It's not graphene, it's nanotech (in this case a nanocrystaline metal but I don't know which metal) It's really extreme tech. This is stuff built on the atomic scale - very cool.

     
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    What is usually referred to as graphene is also atomic scale.  It's a single atom thick, when made right.  Based on it being the "new" material everyone loves to play with, and the article being vague and saying its "nano", I took a guess.

    I'd be curious to hear what exactly it is.  It's unusual for crystallin solids to also have any real flex, they tend to be brittle.

     
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    What is usually referred to as graphene is also atomic scale.  It's a single atom thick, when made right.  Based on it being the "new" material everyone loves to play with, and the article being vague and saying its "nano", I took a guess.

    I'd be curious to hear what exactly it is.  It's unusual for crystallin solids to also have any real flex, they tend to be brittle.



    I was figuring it wasn't carbon based because the article said "metal". I didn't realize that graphene was solely nano derived - I thought it could occur naturally. My bad (did some further research and realized its natural occurence is either theoretical or unproven) But still since they said metal, I figure it must be something else.

     
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    In response to DrCC's comment:

    What is usually referred to as graphene is also atomic scale.  It's a single atom thick, when made right.  Based on it being the "new" material everyone loves to play with, and the article being vague and saying its "nano", I took a guess.

    I'd be curious to hear what exactly it is.  It's unusual for crystallin solids to also have any real flex, they tend to be brittle.



    A single atom thick?

    One of you 2 point me to some real science articles about this stuff.

    I'm having a hard time imagining something a few hundred times thinner than tin foil could do anything at all that resembles strength.

     
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