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  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from BadHabitude. Show BadHabitude's posts

    Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    According to cap geek's list of RFA, and I'll copy and paste:


    Krug, Torey » D BOS 23 $1,704,167 2014 (RFA)
    Trotman, Zach » D BOS 23 $900,000 2014 (RFA)
    Smith, Reilly » R BOS 23 $900,000 2014 (RFA)
    Florek, Justin » L BOS 24 $900,000 2014 (RFA)
    Warsofsky, David » D BOS 24 $875,000 2014 (RFA)
    Cross, Tommy » D BOS 24 $875,000 2014 (RFA)
    Cunningham, Craig » L BOS 23 $651,667 2014 (RFA)
    Bartkowski, Matt » D BOS 26 $650,000 2014 (RFA)
    Caron, Jordan » R BOS 23 $640,000 2014 (RFA)
    Fraser, Matt » R BOS 24 $625,000 2014 (RFA)
    Randell, Tyler » R BOS 23 $603,333 2014 (RFA)


    How can this be?  How can Caron be making less money than Tommy Cross?


    How do these 2 way contracts work exactly?  What are they really being paid?


     


     
     
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    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    It's not that complicated, BadHab.

    Tommy Cross is, unbelievably, just coming off of his EL deal which typically has a fairly high NHL salary and a typical AHL salary.  Cross made $65K, because that's his AHL salary and he spent every week in the AHL. 

    Caron signed a one year deal last year at the end of his EL deal.  He signed it rather than wait for the Bruins to qualify him (they would not have at $900K) and for this he got a one-way deal meaning he gets the same cash in Providence as in Boston.  He stayed in Boston all year, so he banked $640K less taxes - or about 10X what Cross got. 

     Two way deals typically mean you get X salary in the minors and Y salary in the bigs.  Spooner would have made a month's worth of salary at the NHL level and lived like a king among his P-Bruin teammates.

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    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    In response to BadHabitude's comment:

    How can this be?  How can Caron be making less money than Tommy Cross?


     



    Why should he be making more?  Neither of them are NHL quality players!

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from SanDogBrewin. Show SanDogBrewin's posts

    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    Jeezuz BH you thought that is how much they made no matter where they played ?

    Take your Geritol!

     

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    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    I see the (tm) has it's limitations. 

    It doesn't work when you put a $ sign in front of the numbers.

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from BadHabitude. Show BadHabitude's posts

    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    So *if* Cross or Trotman played in the NHL, they would have made 900k for the season?

    Where are these numbers set? Or where can we see them?

    And I assume it's the salary actually paid that counts against the cap.

     

     
     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from jmwalters. Show jmwalters's posts

    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    In response to BadHabitude's comment:

    So *if* Cross or Trotman played in the NHL, they would have made 900k for the season?

    Where are these numbers set? Or where can we see them?

    And I assume it's the salary actually paid that counts against the cap.

     

     




    Yes. Once they make it to the NHL their salary is prorated by day they are on the roster (but the AAV is counted against the cap for as long as they are called up.

    You can look it up on Capgeek.com

     

     

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from Chowdahkid-. Show Chowdahkid-'s posts

    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    In response to BadHabitude's comment:

    So *if* Cross or Trotman played in the NHL, they would have made 900k for the season?

    Where are these numbers set? Or where can we see them?

    And I assume it's the salary actually paid that counts against the cap.

     

     



    Wow !

    Try this. 

    http://www.capgeek.com/bruins/

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from BadHabitude. Show BadHabitude's posts

    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    In response to Chowdahkid-'s comment:

    I wanted more of the details than that.

    Spooner played some NHL games and isn't listed as a roster player, so his month in the NHL must count against the cap, but I don't see that number.


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    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    Breakdown of last season:

    http://capgeek.com/bruins/archive/

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    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    In response to DrCC's comment:

    Breakdown of last season:

    http://capgeek.com/bruins/archive/" rel="nofollow">http://capgeek.com/bruins/archive/

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    Cool - thanks, that's what I was looking for.

    Do they give the ahl salaries on there?  Or somewhere?

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from Bookboy007. Show Bookboy007's posts

    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    To be clear, in case anyone doesn't click DrCC's link, the archived version shows the annual cap hit as well as the Cap Cost, which is the real dollars charged against the cap based on days on the roster - full hit is 195 days.  Spooner was in the NHL for 58 days.  Made $225K.  That's more than three full AHL season salaries.

    If you click on any individual player in Cap Geek, they show you the contract details including AHL/NHL salaries, years, past deals, and the bargaining position when signing (EL, RFA, UFA etc.).

     

     

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  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from Bookboy007. Show Bookboy007's posts

    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    Also, AHL salary only matters for guys who make more than $900K in the AHL.  That's the most you can bury.  Otherwise, the AHL value has no impact on NHL salary caps.

     

     

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    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    In response to BadHabitude's comment:

    Breakdown of last season:

    http://capgeek.com/bruins/archive/ 


    Cool - thanks, that's what I was looking for.

    Do they give the ahl salaries on there?  Or somewhere?


    If you click on the player, it will give a breakdown of what the player was paid his whole career since they signed their EL deal.

    Ex: $56K on one side and there NHL salary on the other. 

    LENGTH: 3 YEAR(S) VALUE: $2,700,000 TYPE: ENTRY LEVEL EXPIRY STATUS: RFA
    SEASON AHL SALARY NHL SALARY
    2011-12 $67,500       $900,000
    2012-13 $67,500       $900,000
    2013-14 $67,500       $900,000

 
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    Re: Wait. What? Someone has to explain this to me.

    Thanks guys for the cap geek lesson!

     

     
     
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