I don't want to see this happen. I think Marchand is the real thing. I think PC will sign him.
But after reading some posts in favour of Boston doing the unthinkable (trading Marchand), enquiring minds would like to know what Boston could get in return for Marchand.
What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
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What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/6/2011 8:53 PM EDT
- Klaas
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/6/2011 9:11 PM EDT
- Not-A-Shot
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A second round pick from a good team, a third round pick from a bad one.
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An unproven prospect
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/6/2011 9:48 PM EDT
- RascalHoudi
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A trade ain't gonna happen.
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/6/2011 9:59 PM EDT
- boborielly224
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With the Savard situation knowing Savy will not be back for this season they
(the Bruins mngt.) can make a better offer to keep Marchand in for a 3 yr. contract. If the decision came to a trade Marchand would definitely get other GM's attention quickly. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/6/2011 10:27 PM EDT
- Bruinfaninnewjersey
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Which GM's attention? He hasn't gotten any offers, right? -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/6/2011 10:52 PM EDT
- BorisTheGorilla
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Don't worry - with Savard done for this year and likely next - Marchand is one step closer to a deal. He will sign.
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/6/2011 11:57 PM EDT
- Bookboy007
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Crucified in the press, on blogs, on boards....
NAS is about right in terms of what the return would be, so why would you ever make that deal? You'd be better off sitting on him until he signs than take back the best of a bad set of offers. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 8:06 AM EDT
- boborielly224
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All this Marchand attention has been very hush hush don't say a word. Marchand could be asked by other GM's without our knowing and PC is sitting on this waiting, like PC always does very patient. Bruins Fan in NJ how do we know if he is not wanted. I just assuming Marchand is going no where but if he is put on the open trade blocks. PC would be getting calls. Marchand, Bergy and Thomas were the most consistent players in the play off run last season. The bruins won the cup because of depth but Marchand was a big impact. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 8:08 AM EDT
- mattymcgee55
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 9:25 AM EDT
- KrayzieJoe
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I think they could get a 1st rounder for Marshmont.
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 9:28 AM EDT
- TryToBearIt
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He'll be signed by the start of training camp, even if it's just for a year. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 9:28 AM EDT
- anddebbv
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GET THE LITTLE S HIT SIGNED MARCHAND WILL PUT POINTS UP ARE WE GOIN TO TRADE HIM FOR A BUNCH OF NOBODIES SEEN WHAT WE LOST WHEN WE TRADED A HIGH DRAFT PICK FOR A ARSEHOILE FROIM THE LEAFS KARBELLE USELESS PIECE OF S HIT SIGN MARCHAND 4 YEARS 2.5 MILLION
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 9:32 AM EDT
- dc-bruins-fan
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It's actually pretty easy to figure out what Marchand would get in terms of picks:
(1) Take the salary the other team is willing to pay Marchand
(2) Compare it against the compensation for signing another team's RFA
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 9:38 AM EDT
- MeanE
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Nothing... He is an immature, shirtless, non-atuograph signing, leaving early from event, cheap-shot artist RAT!
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 9:45 AM EDT
- rolerhoky19
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In Response to Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand:It's actually pretty easy to figure out what Marchand would get in terms of picks: (1) Take the salary the other team is willing to pay Marchand (2) Compare it against the compensation for signing another team's RFA (3) Add a premium so the Bruins have incentive to make the trade instead of match
Posted by dc-bruins-fan
The problem with this scenario is.. if florida is willing to give marchand 4 years at 4.5m the bruins will not want to match that, why should florida in turn over pay..
The trade will come down to what would the bruins match, and that's a 2nd round pick (about 3.1m) the next bracket would be a 1st and 3rd.. So maybe the bruins could get a 1st pick even. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 10:19 AM EDT
- Chowdahkid-
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In Response to Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand:I think they could get a 1st rounder for Marshmont. Do you seriously think they would give him away for a 3rd round pick?
Posted by KrayzieJoe
There would be 29 other GM's licking there chops at that one.
As noted on this board in the past the percentage of 3rd rounders in the draft making the NHL are small. The Bruins were lucky enough to have one that made it ( Marchand ). So saying that is all they'd get for him presently is less then for what he is worth IMO.
For curiousity sake I researched trades for draft picks in the area of the 3rd round .Feb 28To: Anaheim DucksJoel Perreault
3rd round pick (2012)
To: Vancouver CanucksFeb 28Evan Oberg
3rd round pick (2011)3rd-round draft pick
Is Marchand's present value the same as RatPierre's, Halpern's , Higgins or Winchester's when they were traded ?
I took these trades from http://tradedeadline.thescore.com/ -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 11:09 AM EDT
- SanDogBrewin
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In Response to Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand:a pissed off fanbase Posted by mattymcgee55
^Yep! -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 11:28 AM EDT
- wallydouglas
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We dont know anything because PC already knows what he will offer (or match ) and already likely has calls with offers. He is patient and if the right team offered there 2012 1st round pick, meaning a crack at a 1st over all in 2012 i am sure pc would consider it. Marchand amazed all of us fans this year and a few gms. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 11:54 AM EDT
- bostonfan191646
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In Response to Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand:All this Marchand attention has been very hush hush don't say a word. Marchand could be asked by other GM's without our knowing and PC is sitting on this waiting, like PC always does very patient. Bruins Fan in NJ how do we know if he is not wanted. I just assuming Marchand is going no where but if he is put on the open trade blocks. PC would be getting calls. Marchand, Bergy and Thomas were the most consistent players in the play off run last season. The bruins won the cup because of depth but Marchand was a big impact.
Posted by boborielly224any idea what an offer sheet is? -
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Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 3:22 PM EDT
- OatesCam
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The Bruins could get something good, but whatever it is, it wouldn't be as good as Marchand. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 4:13 PM EDT
- callodthedom19
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A bag of pucks? Throw in Hamill and we could get Malkin probably... -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 5:19 PM EDT
- Bookboy007
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If they're trading him under duress, they won't get "fair" value, so it's hard compare teams making deadline acquisitions to teams poaching a young player in a contract dispute. The only way trade value comes close to a 1st and 3rd, then, is if the sticking point is the salary they'd have to offer and not the picks - say Buffalo wants to make the move, but knows they can only clear about $3M to sign BM. They can't afford to pry him away picks or no picks. So - maybe they offer something crazy to get his rights rather than drop an offer sheet.
No, if this becomes a trade discussion the compensatory picks go out the window. Different mechanism all together. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 5:58 PM EDT
- islamorada
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First of all, he won't get traded. I like Book's reference to Buffalo. I would take Drew Stafford in a trade for Marchand. The extra salary is easily be handled by Boston and Buffalo could use some cap relief. I also like to dump Marchand in Nashville for Colin Wilson, and a maybe 3rd rounder. Meanwhile back at the tarded ranch, PC will sign him but it will be in line with Krejci's contract from last year. Most likely 3 years at 3 million something. To this fiscally conservative fan, Marchand is not worth the length of 3 years even at that price. Too many players to sign in the next fews years that are a bit above the caliber of Marchand. -
Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand
posted at 9/7/2011 6:08 PM EDT
- Chowdahkid-
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In Response to Re: What can Bruins get if they trade Brad Marchand:If they're trading him under duress, they won't get "fair" value,so it's hard compare teams making deadline acquisitions to teams poaching a young player in a contract dispute. The only way trade value comes close to a 1st and 3rd, then, is if the sticking point is the salary they'd have to offer and not the picks - say Buffalo wants to make the move, but knows they can only clear about $3M to sign BM. They can't afford to pry him away picks or no picks. So - maybe they offer something crazy to get his rights rather than drop an offer sheet. No, if this becomes a trade discussion the compensatory picks go out the window. Different mechanism all together.
Posted by Bookboy007
The Bruins did okay under duress with the Kessel deal . I'd say that they got fair value at the time of the deal even before the Leafs went for a dump two years in a row to make it an even better deal.