What to offer Krejci?

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    What to offer Krejci?

    It seems like its been Chiarellis MO to sign the core guys early in the last year of their contract. Is DK one of those guys?
    And what do you offer him? Last years leading scorer in the playoffs, pretty much non factor last years reg season and another sloooow start this year.
    I just cant see him getting his 1 line center money if this keeps up.

     
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    The team's leading scorer is a non-factor? Do you have any clue what the hell you're talking about?
    Krejci will get 3 years and between 4-5 mil.


    ......non factor????
     
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    He easily get $4.5m if he is not signed in Boston.  Any team would love this guy.  He can play 1st line centre,  pp, pk, take draws, great 4 on 4, good in the shoot-out and occasionally take the body.  All around a guy we do not want to leave available to an eastern conference team.  Let's get this guy locked up 4 or 5 yrs at 4.75 per year.
     
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    [QUOTE]The team's leading scorer is a non-factor? Do you have any clue what the hell you're talking about? Krejci will get 3 years and between 4-5 mil. ......non factor????
    Posted by TheGuyWithDaThing[/QUOTE]

    I second this post.
     
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    I would love to bring him back at 4.5.  He will demand at least 5 to sign early.  On the open market some desperate team will offer him 5.5 to 6 for a good term.  I do want to sign him early, because I do not believe he will be worth the 5.5 he would get on the open market.

    I think you offer 4.5 now and hope to settle on 5.
     
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    [QUOTE]He easily get $4.5m if he is not signed in Boston.  Any team would love this guy.  He can play 1st line centre,  pp, pk, take draws, great 4 on 4, good in the shoot-out and occasionally take the body.  All around a guy we do not want to leave available to an eastern conference team.  Let's get this guy locked up 4 or 5 yrs at 4.75 per year.
    Posted by Couldthisbetheyear[/QUOTE]

    Lets not forget elevates his game when they matter most whether it was playoffs or olympics.

    Krejci has not been himself this year & to this point has been dissapointing. Watching him play looks as though he is labouring.

    But we are only 20 games in & I expect him to turn it around if he is healthy. I would think at this point, given his complete game & what he has done on the big stage I would say 5-5.5 /yr.

    If he had started out this year better he could probably justify going for 6 million per but I think it will get done for around 5-5.5 million  per. He has to start playing better though. I certainly would not give up on him because of a slow start. The guy has so much talent but just has to work on them consistency issues.
     
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    4 years, $20M....make the offer now and hopefully he takes it.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : Lets not forget elevates his game when they matter most whether it was playoffs or olympics. Krejci has not been himself this year & to this point has been dissapointing. Watching him play looks as though he is labouring. But we are only 20 games in & I expect him to turn it around if he is healthy. I would think at this point, given his complete game & what he has done on the big stage I would say 5-5.5 /yr. If he had started out this year better he could probably justify going for 6 million per but I think it will get done for around 5-5.5 million  per. He has to start playing better though. I certainly would not give up on him because of a slow start. The guy has so much talent but just has to work on them consistency issues.
    Posted by Newfiebullet[/QUOTE]
    The guy is an RFA. Let's use Anaheim as a comparable example. They had 3 pretty decent RFA's that they had to re-sign. I don't see DK being more valuable than any of them.........do you?

    Getzlaf- $5,325,000
    Perry- $5,325,000
    Ryan- $5,100,000
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : The guy is an RFA. Let's use Anaheim as a comparable example. They had 3 pretty decent RFA's that they had to re-sign. I don't see DK being more valuable than any of them.........do you? Getzlaf- $5,325,000 Perry- $5,325,000 Ryan- $5,100,000
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    When did they sign though? I put Getzlaf & Perry ahead of him but I would take Krejci over Ryan.

    I would also take Getzlaf & Perry over Bergeron and he got 5 million from the Bruins as an RFA. I think Krejci will get about the same as Bergeron unless the Bs deal him making room for Seguin to play center. I think it is to early for that. Maybe in a year or two but not right now.
     
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    Krejci does nothing on the PP he is terrible can't thread the cross ice pass and Bobby Ryan has scored 30+ goals 3 times no comparison, Murray would laugh at Chiarelli if that was the offer straight up.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : When did they sign though? I put Getzlaf & Perry ahead of him but I would take Krejci over Ryan. I would also take Getzlaf & Perry over Bergeron and he got 5 million from the Bruins as an RFA. I think Krejci will get about the same as Bergeron unless the Bs deal him making room for Seguin to play center. I think it is to early for that. Maybe in a year or two but not right now.
    Posted by Newfiebullet[/QUOTE]
    It's a toss-up depending on your team's needs. Ryan has 30 or more goals in the last 3 seasons. Both Perry and Getzlaf got more than Bergeron so I'm not sure what your point is. The Bruins also managed to get an extra year from Bergeron compared to when Anaheim will need to re-sign those 2. Getzlaf and Perry will be UFA at 27. Bergeron will be 28 so this is something else that should be factored in.
     
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    Just googled Getzlaf & he signed as an RFA in 2007 when Brian Burke was still the GM. If Anaheim resigned him now to an extension he would be in the 6.5-7.0 territory.

    So you can't really compare an RFA contract that Getzlaf signed in 2007 to one Krejci will sign in 2011. The cap is much higher now. I have not checked on Perry or Ryan yet.

    I am not saying to break the bank on Krejci. I am saying between 5 million & 5.5 million per year. But given the fact he led the league in scoring in the playoffs as the number 1 center on a stanley cup winning team I believe he could justify getting 6 million & possibly could get it from another desperate team.

    Look at what Kessel got 2 years ago as a RFA & Krejci has a more impressive resume & a much more complete player while the cap has increased since Kessel signed that deal.

    If David Krejci had a better start he would be a very hot commodity as an RFA. It maybe in the Bruins best interest that Krejci started out slow so they may get him at a lesser rate.
     
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    [QUOTE]Krejci does nothing on the PP he is terrible can't thread the cross ice pass and Bobby Ryan has scored 30+ goals 3 times no comparison, Murray would laugh at Chiarelli if that was the offer straight up.
    Posted by SanDogBrewin[/QUOTE]

    No comparison between Bobby Ryan and David Krejci? You have got to be kidding.

    Hockey isn't all about the PP. We have seen PP secialist here who have won nothing. Krejci is a complete playe,r who I will admit has been bad this season to this point. But to say there is no comparison between Bobby Ryan & David Krejci is laughable.
     
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    In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci?:[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : No comparison between Bobby Ryan and David Krejci? You have got to be kidding. Hockey isn't all about the PP. We have seen PP secialist here who have won nothing. Krejci is a complete playe,r who I will admit has been bad this season to this point. But to say there is no comparison between Bobby Ryan & David Krejci is laughable. Posted by Newfiebullet[/QUOTE]

    Prove it with stats ? And don't try to throw in "Hockey isn't all about the PP" who doesn't know that ?! But if a center wants "#1 Center money" you'd better know how to QB a PP.

    How's Seguin on the PP and 5 on 5 ? Still waiting on your answer to why Krejci can't get 90+ points...
     
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    I can't stress this enough- RFA status is the only leverage a team holds over a player. If DK was signed to an offer sheet at 6 million, I would fully expect PC to walk away and take the picks in return. Which teams do you feel would hypothetically be willing to pay that kind of money and pony up the draft picks? You were kind enough to bring up the Kessel example. How'd that work out for the Leafs and Bruins? I can't think of a truly successful offer sheet poaching yet. The NYR signing Sakic was as close as I've seen yet and the Avalanche simply matched. I love DK but he's no Joe Sakic.
     
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    "Which teams do you feel would hypothetically be willing to pay that kind of money and pony up the draft picks"

    Winnipeg, Calgary and Edmonton all have the money this summer Dez. I think Burke and McPhee would clear space to get Krejci as well...
     
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    Alex I'm going to go with "What is a swift kick in the keister?"

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    [QUOTE]It seems like its been Chiarellis MO to sign the core guys early in the last year of their contract. Is DK one of those guys? And what do you offer him? Last years leading scorer in the playoffs, pretty much non factor last years reg season and another sloooow start this year. I just cant see him getting his 1 line center money if this keeps up.
    Posted by WillsBruins[/QUOTE]
     
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    [QUOTE]"Which teams do you feel would hypothetically be willing to pay that kind of money and pony up the draft picks" Winnipeg, Calgary and Edmonton all have the money this summer Dez. I think Burke and McPhee would clear space to get Krejci as well...
    Posted by SanDogBrewin[/QUOTE]
    McPhee would make some sense to me as they wouldn't feel the picks to be given would have that much value. The Jets and Calgary would be gambling Leafs-style if they gave up their 1st rounders to sign DK. The point I'm making is that any team that's truly attempting to sign him would have to offer enough that PC wouldn't be likely to match. Higher offers equal higher compensation. That's why the star RFA poaching is so rare. Like I said, I love having DK as a Bruin but not at the expense of losing Seguin or Lucic a year down the road.
     
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    Krejci has every right to the same terms as the Bergeron contract. I've read an endless number of posts on this board about how the two are 1 and 1A centers. Krejci has the offense, Bergeron the defense.
     
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    [QUOTE]Krejci has every right to the same terms as the Bergeron contract. I've read an endless number of posts on this board about how the two are 1 and 1A centers. Krejci has the offense, Bergeron the defense.
    Posted by dc-bruins-fan[/QUOTE]
    DC, I've said repeatedly that I expect him to sign for Bergeron like dollars. I know we call them 1A and 1B centers but in reality, they are both better suited as 2nd line centers. They've both shown 1st line potential but the offensive consistency hasn't been there enough to call them true 1st liners.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : DC, I've said repeatedly that I expect him to sign for Bergeron like dollars. I know we call them 1A and 1B centers but in reality, they are both better suited as 2nd line centers. They've both shown 1st line potential but the offensive consistency hasn't been there enough to call them true 1st liners.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    I agree with that. I was using 1 and 1A within the context of the Bruins. Considering the entire league, I'd classify both as 1B centers or elite in comparison to other second-liners.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : I agree with that. I was using 1 and 1A within the context of the Bruins. Considering the entire league, I'd classify both as 1B centers or elite in comparison to other second-liners.
    Posted by dc-bruins-fan[/QUOTE]
    I knew what you meant and I agree 100%. Call them whatever you'd like as long as they keep playing well. There aren't many teams I'd even consider swapping out centers with. Only Pitt jumps right out at me.
     
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    In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci?:[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : McPhee would make some sense to me as they wouldn't feel the picks to be given would have that much value. The Jets and Calgary would be gambling Leafs-style if they gave up their 1st rounders to sign DK. Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    What has Winnipeg, Calgary and Edmonton done recently with picks that would stop them from giving up some future ones ?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : What has Winnipeg, Calgary and Edmonton done recently with picks that would stop them from giving up some future ones ?
    Posted by SanDogBrewin[/QUOTE]
    San, I just mean it's a bigger gamble to lose if lottery picks end up as compensation for a signing. That's why I agree that he could be signed by a contender rather than a rebuilder. It's likely all a moot point anyway as I fully expect (hope) DK to remain a Bruin.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : Prove it with stats ? And don't try to throw in "Hockey isn't all about the PP" who doesn't know that ?! But if a center wants "#1 Center money" you'd better know how to QB a PP. How's Seguin on the PP and 5 on 5 ? Still waiting on your answer to why Krejci can't get 90+ points...
    Posted by SanDogBrewin[/QUOTE]

    I do believe Krejci will reach 90 points at some point in his career. People seem to forget he is only 25 in a defensive oriented system. I am not backing off that statement. I feel he will do it at some point in his career. He certainly has the talent to do it.

    Since when is 5 million to 5.5 million #1 Center money? That is what I see him getting from the Bruins. Where did I say he deserves # 1 Center money? He has to show more consistency over a longer period of time before he gets 6.5 to 7 million.

    As far as stats go he led the NHL on a stanley cup winning team in points while playing in all 3 zones while one of his wingers had a brutal playoffs. You seem to only care about stats, and that is fine if you are into hockey pools. Personally, I rather see my team win cups with players who can handle the pressure of the playoffs & elevate their play when games get more important which Krejci has continually shown.

    But you made the statement that there is no comparison between Bobby Ryan-David Krejci and Anaheim's GM would laugh at that proposal. To me that comment is laughable. You could make a fair arguement for either guy  but the comparison between the two is certainly not lopsided in either guy's favor.
     
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