What to offer Krejci?

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    That's what I've been thinking of Crowls would I go over $5.75M for Krejci and I see a stalemate and If David's agent is a Wade Arnott type sayonara #46.
     
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    [QUOTE]That's what I've been thinking of Crowls would I go over $5.75M for Krejci and I see a stalemate and If David's agent is a Wade Arnott type sayonara #46.
    Posted by SanDogBrewin[/QUOTE]

    BTW...I would trade DK for Bobby Ryan in a second.  No disrespect to DK, Ryan is just a better player IMO.
     
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    In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci?:[QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : BTW...I would trade DK for Bobby Ryan in a second.  No disrespect to DK, Ryan is just a better player IMO. Posted by Crowls2424[/QUOTE]

    Depends on who you ask I guess...
     
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    The DK topic will keep coming up until it's resolved. DK vs Ryan is an interesting debate because they are very different players. I think for the Bruins Krejci is more valuable because Boston already has Lucic, Marchand and Horton, guys who bring speed, scoring and power from the wings. Where they lack is in subtle skill, which is why they lose when Krejci is out or not playing well. It seems like DK is playing himself down in terms of contract this year though, with the Bergeron line now the clear number one and Krejci's stats down. I was surprised when Chiarelli didn't sign him earlier, but I guess right after a guy leads the league in playoff scoring is a bad time to negotiate. It would be nice if they could sign him for less than 5, but if they don't there would be a lineup of teams willing to give him 6 or more in a year's time.
     
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    Alot of things here to consider. Will they eventually move Seguin back to center? if they do, makes no sense to keep the three of them. If your going to sign him, do it soon, because if he has a 60-65 point season then a playoffs like he did last year, you'll be paying much more than you would for a 60 point player.

     
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    Can everyone just take a minute and dig up the fifty million Marchand threads from the summer please?  Just go back, re-read all of those threads about how Wade Arnott was going to drive the price up to the point where Marchand would be going elsewhere, and that makes him the face of evil, and every week the story went "I wouldn't pay more than $2M...$2.5M...$3...$3.5M...$4M...$4.5...." then "if he wants $4.5M, he can go yodel the greedy little punk!"

    Not every player is Alexei Yashin, and even "Next Question" can only push so hard.  Let's all remember that, when he signed last time after his career best year, Krejci signed early, he took no more than the bottom of market value, and when asked if he might have gotten more by waiting said something like this is a lot of money, why would I need more?

    Agents, the PA, whoever and whatever might push him to drive his price up, and maybe they succeed to some degree, but the real fights are when the player and the agent are both invested in driving the price as high as possible - guys who want the prestige of being "highest paid" or "on par with the best in the game".  I don't think that's DK.

     
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    Krejci is a decent offensive center who is not useless in his own zone.

    Bobby Ryan is complete winger who can play center, is physical, scores tons, is responsible in all zones and can change games in a shift.

    At their peak Ryan is a good two levels above Krejci, this season both suck.


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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : No comparison between Bobby Ryan and David Krejci? You have got to be kidding. Hockey isn't all about the PP. We have seen PP secialist here who have won nothing. Krejci is a complete playe,r who I will admit has been bad this season to this point. But to say there is no comparison between Bobby Ryan & David Krejci is laughable.
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    Those posts are wrong.
    Krejci is not as good a player as Bergeron, not even close.
    Krejci has gotten the better wingers since he came up, and barely eclipses Bergeron in points who has spent much, much more time killing penalties.

    Bergeron gets points at any opportunity.
    Krejci gets points when his wingers are working hard or the defense ahead of him is pathetic.
    Nothing better illustrates this than the end of the Tampa Bay series where the Lightning did nothing but coast backwards and the shorthanded goal in game 7 against Vancouver where Bergeron wore defensemen all the way up the ice and still scored.


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    [QUOTE]Krejci has every right to the same terms as the Bergeron contract. I've read an endless number of posts on this board about how the two are 1 and 1A centers. Krejci has the offense, Bergeron the defense.
    Posted by dc-bruins-fan[/QUOTE]
     
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    [QUOTE]Since when can Bergeron not shoot????? I can understand with Krejci, as he has a quick release, but it doesn't have that much power to it, but Bergeron? When he was younger, he used to QB the powerplay in an umbrella. And Krejci may not have the hardest shot, but it's quick and it's accurate. Btw, I don't know what the power play is like this year (doesn't seem to be nearly as bad), but last year their biggest issue was just getting set up in the zone, not with their shooting. I guess if you idolized Johnny Wensink, you wouldn't know much about the actual play of hockey, and its likely that your favoriite players on the Bruins' initals are: ST, AM, GC. You wouldn't understand skill. Btw, I do love Johnny Wensink, but when you say some stuff like that and have screen name after a pretty poor hockey player, it's obvious where your priorities are when assessing talent.
    Posted by TheGuyWithDaThing[/QUOTE]

    Nice post... 

    Here's some recent bruins who can really shoot the puck -  Seguin, Marchand, Horton, Ryder, I thought Savard was nasty coming off the half wall firing on goal.

    You think Bergeron is in a class with those guys, that's your opinion - I don't.

    For the record my Favorite Bruin's "initals" are - TT BM ML NH CK...and here's one more just for you attacking me for my opinion - GFY
     
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    In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci?:[QUOTE] Let's all remember that, when he signed last time after his career best year, Krejci signed early, he took no more than the bottom of market value, and when asked if he might have gotten more by waiting said something like this is a lot of money, why would I need more?  but the real fights are when the player and the agent are both invested in driving the price as high as possible - guys who want the prestige of being "highest paid" or "on par with the best in the game".  I don't think that's DK. Posted by Bookboy007[/QUOTE]

    Yes very grateful on his 1st renewal, 2nd contract 3 years ago. After the next contract coming up he is not guaranteed a raise. So I think the bigger contract fight/negotiation is the 3rd contract because typically the 4th go round for some ends up being a downgrade in years unless you are a Kovalchuk/Parise/Richards tier type player.

    You might be right Krejci acts like Bergeron and wants to earn a bigger 4th contract with a short slight pay raise with the 3rd contract. However if someone like Tambellini calls, while David is still in his funk, offers an expiring contract Hemsky and a 1st rounder I would think Chiarelli might have to listen instead of negotiating all summer or just getting 3 picks from an offer sheet.

    Lucic, Rask, Thomas, Horton and Seguin all have to be thought of over the next 2 summers as well...
     
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    Bergeron versus....
    Marchand - Marchand slight edge in wrister, serious edge for Bergy on slapshot
    Savvy - Draw on wrister, draw on slapper
    Seguin - No contest in the kid's favor
    Ryder - Wrist shot goes to the Lazy Newfie, with an even slappie.
    Horton - Horton has a blatant edge in shooting, more so on the wrister.
    These are all guys who can shoot the puck really well; so you're going to knock him for not being a sniper? Who knows, maybe it's just that I see centers in the league today being playmakers as opposed to goal scorers; and when it comes to playmaking, Bergy is very good. So is Krejci.
    I'm not saying either of these guys are elite first line centers, but they could both play 1st line on a team that lacks an elite one.

    And is it not the norm to attack one's opinion on this board? Generally speaking, that's all it seems to be. Cool out, tender nuts..
     
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    [QUOTE]Bergeron versus.... Marchand - Marchand slight edge in wrister, serious edge for Bergy on slapshot Savvy - Draw on wrister, draw on slapper Seguin - No contest in the kid's favor Ryder - Wrist shot goes to the Lazy Newfie, with an even slappie. Horton - Horton has a blatant edge in shooting, more so on the wrister. These are all guys who can shoot the puck really well; so you're going to knock him for not being a sniper? Who knows, maybe it's just that I see centers in the league today being playmakers as opposed to goal scorers; and when it comes to playmaking, Bergy is very good. So is Krejci. I'm not saying either of these guys are elite first line centers, but they could both play 1st line on a team that lacks an elite one. And is it not the norm to attack one's opinion on this board? Generally speaking, that's all it seems to be. Cool out, tender nuts..
    Posted by TheGuyWithDaThing[/QUOTE]
    That's certainly what keeps it entertaining.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: What to offer Krejci? : This is the million dollar question...pun intended. If you see Seguin as this team's #1 center, then what commitment do you make to DK, who will end up as your #2 or #3?  Would it make more sense to move him to bring back help elsewhere; wing or defense? DK is a very good player, but might be a little overrated on this board. Career-best 73 points over two years ago. Posters still play the "he's young" card when he is 25 with over 350 NHL games under his belt, like high production is right around the corner.  Seems like DK is what he is, a solid 2-way center, nothing wrong with that, just how much do you pay for that?
    Posted by Crowls2424[/QUOTE]

    good points all around, Crowls....

    i wouldn't pay more than 4 mil. per and for not longer than 3 yrs....

    actually since Krejci's restricted, i'd roll the dice and take a chance that some team makes him an offer, which is probably unlikely, and gladly take the pix....

    maybe he isn't cut out to be a top liner, his best season to date happened three years ago playing on the third line alongside Wheeler & Ryder....

    also, i believe that Seguin's calling card is as a center because this dynamo needs room to roam....
     
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    [QUOTE]Bergeron versus.... Marchand - Marchand slight edge in wrister, serious edge for Bergy on slapshot Savvy - Draw on wrister, draw on slapper Seguin - No contest in the kid's favor Ryder - Wrist shot goes to the Lazy Newfie, with an even slappie. Horton - Horton has a blatant edge in shooting, more so on the wrister. These are all guys who can shoot the puck really well; so you're going to knock him for not being a sniper? Who knows, maybe it's just that I see centers in the league today being playmakers as opposed to goal scorers; and when it comes to playmaking, Bergy is very good. So is Krejci. I'm not saying either of these guys are elite first line centers, but they could both play 1st line on a team that lacks an elite one. And is it not the norm to attack one's opinion on this board? Generally speaking, that's all it seems to be. Cool out, tender nuts..
    Posted by TheGuyWithDaThing[/QUOTE]

    So, you agree - and I'm the one who needs to "cool out" ? Way to hyper react to god forbid any critique of Patrice. Try being theguydathebrain next time
     

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