Which Team will move to Winnipeg?

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    Which Team will move to Winnipeg?

     Good article on this:

    http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/dave_naylor/?id=360362

    Which one do you all think will be the new Jets?
     
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    The Winnipeg "Threshers" has a nice ring to it.
     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from Dave24. Show Dave24's posts

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    Phoenix back to Winnipeg
    Atlanta to Quebec, in a few years when the new arena is ready

    Florida to KC?  Seattle?  Portland, OR?  Vegas?

    no idea on how the divisions will realign
     
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    i'm a US citizen that's completely in favor of the projected moves. those southern markets are dragging the nhl down. move them somewhere it snows, there will actually be hockey fans there.
     
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    Detroit Red Wings
     
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    [QUOTE]i'm a US citizen that's completely in favor of the projected moves. those southern markets are dragging the nhl down. move them somewhere it snows, there will actually be hockey fans there.
    Posted by adkbeesfan[/QUOTE]

    They are also the reason the salary cap is where it is which is one reason why the Board of Governors and Bettman are trying to make it work. Plus, if a team relocates then the owners do not get expansion money either which is hefty sum....
     
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    If a team relocates, I dont think it will be to Canada.nThey will move to either Milwaukee, KC, or the Pacific Northwest ie Portland or Seattle
     
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    Portland or Seattle would be decent but Winnipeg always comes up so it appears to be the frontrunner...Milwaukee is interesting. I don't think I ever heard of anyone mentioning it as a posibility before...

     
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    Bettman already went on record as saying if there are teams moved he would give those that had teams  1st crack.
    Winnipeg=Coyotes
    Quebec City=Atlanta
    Hamilton=Panthers

    I live in Nova Scotia where the Major Junior team back in the day averaged 8-10 thousand fans a night.  Make an Atlantic Canadian team.  Between Irving/Sobeys and all the Brewery markets we could have a complex built in Moncton or Halifax.  It would get more support than the Islanders.
     
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    Born and raised in Boston but as a NHL hockey fan i think its crazy there isnt a team in Quebec City. Most likely there will e in the next 3-5 years. Who in there right mind wants the team in ATL , PHX etc.
     
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    My out there prediction: Atlanta moves to Winnipeg/Quebec after the next CBA is negotiated as an inexpensive (from the owner's perspective) bargaining chip thrown to the players. The 6 Canadian teams currently represent approximately a third of the NHL's revenues. For every Canadian team that replaces a struggling American one, NHL revenues rise, the cap rises as a result, and the players profit.

    However, will be interesting to see how the Glendale/Arizona Constitution battle turns out. If the deal goes through, Phoenix obviously stays put. If not, they're gone. Gotta assume that no other individual or group has stepped up with an offer that's nearly as good as the Hulsizer deal (which, by the way, is a steal for Mr. Hedge Fund) or else the NHL would be entertaining those offers rather than wade into Arizona constitutional law. It is also well known that Atlanta has been on the market for a while with absolutely no interest from anyone wanting to keep the team there.

     
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             "Phoenix back to Winnipeg Atlanta to Quebec Florida to KC?"

    Unfortunately Dave24 Bettman's deadline extension probably gave Hulsizer enough time for Glendale to get their heads out of their ____! So Atlanta to Winnipeg, Florida to Quebec then KC gets the next expansion or franchise in trouble followed by the Pacific Northwest.
     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from jmwalters. Show jmwalters's posts

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    Well it looks like the players are starting to chime in...


    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=360417
     
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    [QUOTE]Well it looks like the players are starting to chime in... http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=360417
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    Pretty stupid comment for any Coyote player to make. From a PR standpoint you don't want your players discussing moving plans already (or at all).

    That said, gotta agree with the point he made: Quebec is better than Winnipeg in every way that is relevant for an NHL franchise to be successful today. However, if the Coyotes move, I'd like to see them go back home.
     
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    [QUOTE]Bettman already went on record as saying if there are teams moved he would give those that had teams  1st crack. Winnipeg=Coyotes Quebec City=Atlanta Hamilton=Panthers I live in Nova Scotia where the Major Junior team back in the day averaged 8-10 thousand fans a night.  Make an Atlantic Canadian team.  Between Irving/Sobeys and all the Brewery markets we could have a complex built in Moncton or Halifax.  It would get more support than the Islanders.
    Posted by shuperman[/QUOTE]
    Shupe,Ive always thought a team in Moncton could work.It's close enough for so many Maritimers to drive to so it could work.It's only a couple of hours speeding from Halifax or PEI and only an hour or so from SJ or Fredericton.I think tickets would be hard to come by as opposed to needing promotions to give them away like in Atlanta.
     
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    shupe and dez, i live 30 min. from moncton.  there's no way a team would work there.  41 home games is just too much for the population base.  of course they'd outdraw teams like pheonix, atlanta, etc., but that's about it.  my guess is they'd probably average 10,000-12,000 fans/game.  the only sellouts would be against the leafs, habs, and probably bruins.
     
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    [QUOTE]Bettman already went on record as saying if there are teams moved he would give those that had teams  1st crack. Winnipeg=Coyotes Quebec City=Atlanta Hamilton=Panthers I live in Nova Scotia where the Major Junior team back in the day averaged 8-10 thousand fans a night.  Make an Atlantic Canadian team.  Between Irving/Sobeys and all the Brewery markets we could have a complex built in Moncton or Halifax.  It would get more support than the Islanders.
    Posted by shuperman[/QUOTE]

    You and I in a thumb wrestling match would get more support than the Islanders.  There aren't enough people there to make it work.  None of those areas could even make AHL teams work.  St. John, St. John's, Cape Breton, Moncton, Fredericton...all failed.  (to name just a few)
     
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    NAS,

    I agree, but the fact that the Mooseheads used to gather 8-9 on a reg basis, that UNB gets 3000 a game...I dont think 20000 a game would be realistic.  But if it were Halifax for example you have a major international airport a stones throw away.  Darthmouth Crossing has mega expanded so the business side would be there. Some huge money in Atlantic Canada as well.  Moncton is a 2 hr drive.  Halifax has nearly 500,000 people including surrounding areas. 

    Obviously the rink would be priority number one along with major sponsors(ie Irving and Sobeys, Olands).  I mean when the world juniors and world championships were held in Halifax area it was a massive success. 

    It will never, ever happen.  But I bet it would do better than 1/3 of the teams in the southern parts of the US
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Which Team will move to Winnipeg? : You and I in a thumb wrestling match would get more support than the Islanders.  There aren't enough people there to make it work.  None of those areas could even make AHL teams work.  St. John, St. John's, Cape Breton, Moncton, Fredericton...all failed.  (to name just a few)
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]
    Saint John didn't fail as an AHL city by any means.Much like the Sea Dogs do now,the Flames were usually near,if not,sold out.It was more a matter of economics from Calary's standpoint.Having their minor league team almost 3000 miles away didn't make much sense.If Boston loses a player in a game day skate they can get a guy from the farm fairly quickly.If it happenned to Calgary they usually wouldn't get a guy until the next day(if they even still need him then).Perhaps I'm over estimating  how rabid the Maritime hockey fan is but I know tons of people that would drive 2-3 hours both ways to watch NHL hockey.The idea's not that crazy.
     
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    Ask a french guy, Winnipeg or Quebec, c'mon gimme a break.

    Neither place worked last time, difference is Manitoba is starting to boom and the money will be there this time around. Why Que lost their's still boggles me.
     
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    [QUOTE]Ask a french guy, Winnipeg or Quebec, c'mon gimme a break. Neither place worked last time, difference is Manitoba is starting to boom and the money will be there this time around. Why Que lost their's still boggles me.
    Posted by No4BobbyOrr-GOAT[/QUOTE]

    the canadian $ being worthless back then didn't help.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Which Team will move to Winnipeg? : Saint John didn't fail as an AHL city by any means.Much like the Sea Dogs do now,the Flames were usually near,if not,sold out.It was more a matter of economics from Calary's standpoint.Having their minor league team almost 3000 miles away didn't make much sense.If Boston loses a player in a game day skate they can get a guy from the farm fairly quickly.If it happenned to Calgary they usually wouldn't get a guy until the next day(if they even still need him then).Perhaps I'm over estimating  how rabid the Maritime hockey fan is but I know tons of people that would drive 2-3 hours both ways to watch NHL hockey.The idea's not that crazy.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]


    would you drive 2 hrs for a tuesday night game against the panthers?  i think that would be the problem. 

    moncton has over 1 million people living within a 3 hour drive.  that's why world track and field championships, world curling championships, cfl games are successful. 

    we'd get sellouts on weekends and against certain teams, but we'd have a problem getting a big crowd for 41 nights.
     
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    [QUOTE]Ask a french guy, Winnipeg or Quebec, c'mon gimme a break. Neither place worked last time, difference is Manitoba is starting to boom and the money will be there this time around. Why Que lost their's still boggles me.
    Posted by No4BobbyOrr-GOAT[/QUOTE]

    Quebec moved because the Colorado guys offered more money than could be refused.  No other reason.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Which Team will move to Winnipeg? : would you drive 2 hrs for a tuesday night game against the panthers?  i think that would be the problem.  moncton has over 1 million people living within a 3 hour drive.  that's why world track and field championships, world curling championships, cfl games are successful.  we'd get sellouts on weekends and against certain teams, but we'd have a problem getting a big crowd for 41 nights.
    Posted by goodnewsbears[/QUOTE]
    I can dare to dream though.Throw the new casino into the mix and maybe Moncton could become a new winter vacation destination.........yeah I know,it's crazy but I'd love it.
             And yes,I would drive to the Tuesday Panther game.Cheers.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Which Team will move to Winnipeg? : Saint John didn't fail as an AHL city by any means.Much like the Sea Dogs do now,the Flames were usually near,if not,sold out.It was more a matter of economics from Calary's standpoint.Having their minor league team almost 3000 miles away didn't make much sense.If Boston loses a player in a game day skate they can get a guy from the farm fairly quickly.If it happenned to Calgary they usually wouldn't get a guy until the next day(if they even still need him then).Perhaps I'm over estimating  how rabid the Maritime hockey fan is but I know tons of people that would drive 2-3 hours both ways to watch NHL hockey.The idea's not that crazy.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    San Jose is in Worcester, MA.  LA is in Manchester, NH. 

    Anaheim was in Portland, ME for a while, and when they moved due to economics, the fan base in Portland was strong enough for the Pirates ownership to convince Buffalo to move there.
     
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