Who is the best player over 26?

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    Who is the best player over 26?

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=9706

    The under 25 competition was a complete joke, with Hall edging out Eberle in the final. But so far the over 26 seems a little more sane, with Malkin beating out Staal in the first bout, and Chara leading Spezza 78 per cent to 22 per cent in the second matchup.

     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    Hall over Eberle = high unemployment in Edmonton.
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    I like the matchups Parise vs. Kovalchuk, the sisters and Suter vs. Weber. For some though it's a popularity contest. Which player is more likeable ? There could be allot of Senators fans that still are fuming about the departure of Chara and not happy with Spezza's stats up until last season.

    I'd go with "who means the most to their team".
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    Simply put, Chara is the best team builder now that Lidstrom has retired.  I would take him over any forward in winning a Cup.  
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    Offensively: Datysuk
    Defensively: Chara
    Goaltender: Lundqvist

    TSN polls are not to be taken seriously. If there's a Oiler, Leaf, or Senator on there they will be atop the list.
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26?:
    Offensively: Datysuk Defensively: Chara Goaltender: Lundqvist TSN polls are not to be taken seriously. If there's a Oiler, Leaf, or Senator on there they will be atop the list.
    Posted by Bisson1


    I think you are spot on here. I want to disagree with your goalie selection, but can't think if anyone better, maybe Hasek!
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    Having the Sedins be part of this is a joke.

    I can see Weber as the one defenceman I'd want to build a team around for the future, edging out Chara by virtue of miles on the tires alone. Datsyuk will anchor an offense like no other, and shows little signs of slowing down. In net, I agree that Lundqvist has shown the most consistent excellence over the past few years as anyone else. I don't care much about "system" and "plays behind a strong defence" when dealing with goalies. They still need to stop the puck, and he does.
     
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    Having the Sedins be part of this is a joke. I can see Weber as the one defenceman I'd want to build a team around for the future, edging out Chara by virtue of miles on the tires alone. Datsyuk will anchor an offense like no other, and shows little signs of slowing down. In net, I agree that Lundqvist has shown the most consistent excellence over the past few years as anyone else. I don't care much about "system" and "plays behind a strong defence" when dealing with goalies. They still need to stop the puck, and he does.
    Posted by asmaha


     I don't like the Sedin's style, but the certainly deserve to be part of this. Daniel has 256 points in 217 games over the past three seasons, and won the Lindsay and Art Ross two years ago, to go along with Olympic gold. Henrik grabbed his Art Ross and Hart three years ago, and is one of only two players in the league to not miss one game since the lockout, scoring 601 points in 574 games over that stretch. I can't stand the whining and diving, but their numbers are definitely good enough to get a spot in that bracket. Over the last four years the only surnames that have been etched onto the Art Ross are Malkin and Sedin.
     
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    I just think that both are the ultimate stat-padders against the bottom teams in the league. Happens every year, but just take last year as an example: 14 goals from Henrik just doesn't cut it for me to be considered elite, while Daniel's numbers against tougher competition were worse last year than a 19-20 year old Seguin, to use one example.

    Who would you rather have?

    Player A:

    Vs Opponent by Team Record
       Goals Assists Points   Avg. Time on Ice
     Pt%GPEVPPSHTot EVPPSHTot EVPPSHTot+/-PIMSEVPPSHTot
    NYR.66510000 0000 0000-10112:277:360:1520:18
    STL.66540101 1001 1102+24616:242:180:0018:43
    PIT.65911001 1001 2002+10521:302:490:0024:19
    NSH.63442103 1203 3306-121115:123:420:0519:00
    PHI.62810101 0101 0202+10313:428:560:1022:48
    DET.62242002 1001 3003+141716:152:250:0518:46
    BOS.62210000 0101 0101-2459:198:281:1519:02
    NJD.62210000 0000 0000+00116:111:130:0017:24
    CHI.61641102 2103 3205+101212:552:200:0015:15
    Totals:2164010 65011 129021+2146115:033:260:0618:36
    PHX.59140000 2103 2103-101114:083:580:0218:10
    SJS.58541001 0000 1001+041816:364:210:0020:57
    LAK.57930101 2103 2204+141313:155:200:0018:35
    FLA.57310000 0000 0000+00216:254:060:0020:31
    WSH.56110000 1001 1001+20414:263:580:0018:24
    OTT.56120000 0202 0202+00515:334:090:0519:47
    CGY.54940202 0000 0202-141115:323:320:0019:06
    BUF.54310000 0000 0000-10215:333:500:0019:23
    DAL.54320000 0000 0000-20415:103:130:0018:23
    Totals:221304 5409 67013-2127015:074:050:0119:14
    COL.53743003 0000 3003+421415:193:510:0719:18
    TBL.51210000 0000 0000-20413:114:050:0717:23
    WPG.51210000 0000 0000+00417:091:110:0718:27
    MIN.49461203 4307 55010+222115:053:100:0218:17
    TOR.48822002 2103 4105+40916:331:160:0017:49
    ANA.48832002 2002 4004+401315:012:540:1718:13
    NYI.48210000 0000 0000+00213:004:070:0017:07
    MTL.47620000 0000 0000-12316:302:500:0319:23
    EDM.45153003 2103 5106+361915:133:390:0118:54
    CBJ.39642103 1102 3205+02916:182:470:0719:13
    Totals:29133016 116017 249033+14149815:263:060:0518:38

    or Player B:

    Vs Opponent by Team Record
       Goals Assists Points   Avg. Time on Ice
     Pt%GPEVPPSHTot EVPPSHTot EVPPSHTot+/-PIMSEVPPSHTot
    VAN.67710000 1001 1001+12410:226:010:0016:23
    NYR.66540000 1102 1102+001314:512:340:0017:26
    STL.66510000 1001 1001+10018:180:350:0018:53
    PIT.65940101 2002 2103-101415:122:230:0117:37
    NSH.63410000 0000 0000-10316:093:470:0019:56
    PHI.62842103 1203 3306+141412:313:030:0415:38
    DET.62210000 0000 0000+00315:292:090:0017:38
    NJD.62241001 2002 3003+42815:091:450:0016:55
    CHI.61610000 1001 1001+00418:141:510:0320:08
    Totals:213205 93012 125017+586314:442:320:0117:18
    PHX.59110000 0000 0000-10014:290:000:0014:29
    SJS.58521001 0000 1001+10515:431:470:0017:30
    LAK.57920000 0000 0000+12211:441:160:0013:01
    FLA.57340000 3104 3104+401314:462:080:0016:54
    WSH.56142002 0000 2002+001315:242:350:0017:59
    OTT.56160000 2002 2002+222014:262:590:0017:26
    CGY.54911001 2002 3003+30613:421:200:0415:06
    BUF.54363205 3003 6208+302315:012:230:0017:25
    DAL.54311001 0000 1001+20311:192:300:0013:49
    Totals:2782010 101011 183021+1548514:312:150:0016:47
    COL.53710000 0000 0000+00012:530:000:0012:53
    TBL.51240000 3003 3003-1121212:474:110:0217:00
    WPG.51231001 1001 2002+30914:532:390:0017:33
    CAR.50041001 0000 1001+00913:532:550:1417:03
    MIN.49410000 0000 0000+00618:450:540:0019:39
    TOR.48866107 1304 74011+741513:261:490:0015:15
    ANA.48810000 0000 0000+02316:051:310:0717:43
    NYI.48243003 3003 6006+601115:032:120:0017:15
    MTL.47661001 1102 2103-102214:232:490:0117:14
    EDM.45111001 0101 1102+00114:522:490:0017:41
    CBJ.39620000 0101 0101+00614:073:100:0017:18
    Totals:33131014 96015 227029+14189414:132:330:0216:49
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    14 goals to go along with 67 assists. H. Sedin's a playmaker. Adam Oates only broke the 20 goal plateau 6 times in his career. Was he not elite?

    PS not commenting on your stats as they're too crowded an tough to read.
     
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    Stats are too difficult to follow.

     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    I'd say it's between Malkin and Datsyuk. I don't care who votes how, I think they are the two best players over 26. If I had my choice, I might go with Malkin, both awesome players.
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    How about best player of 35?

    And Chara absolutely is in the discussion. He is arguably the best defensive player in the league and has leadership skills that far surpass either Malkin or Datsyuk. Datsyuk isn't even a first line center (technically) for Detroit. He's behind Zetterberg who I believe is also over 26?
     
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    I just think that both are the ultimate stat-padders against the bottom teams in the league. Happens every year, but just take last year as an example: 14 goals from Henrik just doesn't cut it for me to be considered elite, while Daniel's numbers against tougher competition were worse last year than a 19-20 year old Seguin, to use one example. Who would you rather have?
    Posted by asmaha


    Not exactly sure what your point is...

    Against the top two groups:
    Player A: 34pts in 43 games = .791 pts/gm
    Player B: 38pts in 48 games = .792 pts/gm

    Overall:
    Player A: 67pts in 72 games = .931 pts/gm
    Player B: 67pts in 81 games = .827 pts/gm

    Given that category 1 is a wash, I'll take player A, who can score more points per game overall (and has done it consistently for the past 7 seasons).
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    am i the only one who noticed that Ovechkin is on the list?....

    with Oates as coach, Ovie will once again become the force he was in his first five years....

    Malkin's a close second....  injuries have held him back a bit....
     
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    am i the only one who noticed that Ovechkin is on the list?.... with Oates as coach, Ovie will once again become the force he was in his first five years.... Malkin's a close second....  injuries have held him back a bit....
    Posted by days-of-Orr


    I agree Ovechkin will have a terrific year this year. I say he nets 60.
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    Out of all the player nick names "ovie" has to be the worst.
     
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    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26?:
    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26? : Not exactly sure what your point is... Against the top two groups: Player A: 34pts in 43 games = .791 pts/gm Player B: 38pts in 48 games = .792 pts/gm Overall: Player A: 67pts in 72 games = .931 pts/gm Player B: 67pts in 81 games = .827 pts/gm Given that category 1 is a wash, I'll take player A, who can score more points per game overall (and has done it consistently for the past 7 seasons).
    Posted by 49-North


    The point is that Sedin is a woman and we hate him. 


     
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    Out of all the player nick names "ovie" has to be the worst.
    Posted by Bisson1


    I don't see that as bad as "Segzy" or "Bergy".

    They're all terrible.

    In Columbus, do they have "Clitsy"?


     
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    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26? : The point is that Sedin is a woman and we hate him. 
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    And for some it wouldn't even have to be Sedin for this to be true.
     
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    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26? : The point is that Sedin is a woman and we hate him. 
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    I just realized that I used "we" in this post.  Please let it be known that I did not ask every member of BDC for an opinion on Sedin and instead used the general thinking of Bruins fans.

    This is a broad generalization which was made to take a shot at the Canucks troll, and not an attempt at any scientific proof or legalized court document.  For those who get very upset about me using the term "we" and/or those for get upset when I lump large groups together, you can breathe easy.  This wordy disclaimer is here to make your life easier.
     
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    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26? : I just realized that I used "we" in this post.  Please let it be known that I did not ask every member of BDC for an opinion on Sedin and instead used the general thinking of Bruins fans. This is a broad generalization which was made to take a shot at the Canucks troll, and not an attempt at any scientific proof or legalized court document.  For those who get very upset about me using the term "we" and/or those for get upset when I lump large groups together, you can breathe easy.  This wordy disclaimer is here to make your life easier.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    "We" would prefer an apology instead of this..........and yes, you are a big lumper.
     
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    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26? : "We" would prefer an apology instead of this..........and yes, you are a big lumper.
    Posted by Chowdahkid-

    Maybe we should start calling him "Lumpy" since he's such a big fan of nicknames.
     
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    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26? : Maybe we should start calling him "Lumpy" since he's such a big fan of nicknames.
    Posted by dezaruchi


    Done. And the 'y' on the end of the nickname would be icing on the cake.
     
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    Re: Who is the best player over 26?

    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26?:
    In Response to Re: Who is the best player over 26? : I just realized that I used "we" in this post.  Please let it be known that I did not ask every member of BDC for an opinion on Sedin and instead used the general thinking of Bruins fans. This is a broad generalization which was made to take a shot at the Canucks troll, and not an attempt at any scientific proof or legalized court document.  For those who get very upset about me using the term "we" and/or those for get upset when I lump large groups together, you can breathe easy.  This wordy disclaimer is here to make your life easier.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    Thank you for fixing your error, we accept your apology.

    oh wait....
     
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