who needs to go when stu returns

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    makes for a great competition to get playing time over the next week or two(anyone have a timetable on stu?).  no need to rush back stu- ease him in. i say package ference with one of the young guys(mcquaid/boychuk) for big time d-man... should be fun to watch
     
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    He definitely gives more offensively then some, but, I would still argue his role is defense.. I am not as concerned about Mcquaids lack of offensive out put etc..

    I think the big thing on kampfer though is that his short comings, are still fixable, Mcquaid, stuart etc, are never going to give you much offensively, its not their game.. Kampfer is never going to be Mark Streit on the blue line, so he needs a come complete defensive game to be as good as he can, and I think for him, its a coachable thing, was my point. 

    But I want that coaching, and those mistakes to take place in providence.. Most of that post wasn't directed at you, but I think a lot of fans are over looking the holes in kampfers game cause we love to see a D man jumpin in on the play and carrying the puck up ice etc..

     
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    I agreed, and kinda like how the D line up looks as of right now. My guess would be stu, or McQuaid. Now that i write that i would try putting McQuaid back in Prov. and see how it goes. If any thing you can always bring him back.
     
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    [QUOTE]He definitely gives more offensively then some, but, I would still argue his role is defense.. I am not as concerned about Mcquaids lack of offensive out put etc.. I think the big thing on kampfer though is that his short comings, are still fixable, Mcquaid, stuart etc, are never going to give you much offensively, its not their game.. Kampfer is never going to be Mark Streit on the blue line, so he needs a come complete defensive game to be as good as he can, and I think for him, its a coachable thing, was my point.  But I want that coaching, and those mistakes to take place in providence.. Most of that post wasn't directed at you, but I think a lot of fans are over looking the holes in kampfers game cause we love to see a D man jumpin in on the play and carrying the puck up ice etc..
    Posted by rolerhoky19[/QUOTE]

    His role is defense. Yes . But when you think of the type of defenceman that are the most effective in today's NHL do you think of a player who is only good at one thing ( stay at home) or a player who is effective in both ends ?

    This post isn't directed at you either , I just think fans are over looking the holes the B's have in generating offence from the back end without having a player like Kampfer ( doesn't have to be him ) in the lineup who can do this. And all a person has to do is look through that group to see that keeping the puck out of the net is not a problem. Helping create offence can be improved .
     
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    Without Kampfer, they don't win the other night. Both the heads-up pass to Tyler and the finish were impressive. He made several other impressive, aggressive plays throughout the game.

    Bruins with Kampfer > Bruins without Kampfer.

    Kampfer goes nowhere.



     
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    Chowd..

    I think the goalies have covered up a lot of the flaws in keeping the puck out of the net though.. I think kampfer can stay up, and him and mcquaid can be interchanged depending on who we play..  But I can easily send him down as Sandog was saying..

    Also in the mix should be this kid Cohen once he is healthy.. So we will have to see, But I think stuart works his way back in no question, and mcquaid and kampfer boychuk battle it out for the last 2 spots.
     
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    [QUOTE]Chowd.. I think the goalies have covered up a lot of the flaws in keeping the puck out of the net though.. I think kampfer can stay up, and him and mcquaid can be interchanged depending on who we play..  But I can easily send him down as Sandog was saying.. Also in the mix should be this kid Cohen once he is healthy.. So we will have to see, But I think stuart works his way back in no question, and mcquaid and kampfer boychuk battle it out for the last 3 spots.
    Posted by rolerhoky19[/QUOTE]

    Ya I'm glad you brought up Cohen . Looks like he's ready to go.


    http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2011/01/05/seeking_another_highlight/
     
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    [QUOTE]Without Kampfer, they don't win the other night. Both the heads-up pass to Tyler and the finish were impressive. He made several other impressive, aggressive plays throughout the game. Bruins with Kampfer /> Bruins without Kampfer. Kampfer goes nowhere.
    Posted by CafardoSaysTradeBrady[/QUOTE]
    Kampfer has a 2-way deal so he's easiest to demote without fear of losing him.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: who needs to go when stu returns : Kampfer has a 2-way deal so he's easiest to demote without fear of losing him.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    I understand that. If Kampfer played decently, that would matter. He's played very, very well, and makes the team significantly better than they are without him, IMO. 

    He goes nowhere.

    (of course this all goes back to being comfortable with the idea that the Bruins will win by controlling the play, dominating possession and being aggressive. there is still resistance to this in favor of a passive approach, but it seems to be fading. dominating opponents is very contagious)
     

     
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    Cafardo, you are the case in point, ignoring all his short comings and the many times he has been bailed out by the goalies.. He has played well offensively, mediocre defensively, and has made decisions at times that could have cost of games, have cost us goals, and could have cost more if thomas hadnt been playing so well at the time.

    the idea that he has played very very well is focused on the good things he has done offensively, and little else..
     
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    In Response to Re: who needs to go when stu returns:
    [QUOTE]Cafardo, you are the case in point, ignoring all his short comings and the many times he has been bailed out by the goalies.. He has played well offensively, mediocre defensively, and has made decisions at times that could have cost of games, have cost us goals, and could have cost more if thomas hadnt been playing so well at the time. the idea that he has played very very well is focused on the good things he has done offensively, and little else..
    Posted by rolerhoky19[/QUOTE]


    Can you provide an example I dont remember any. I cant even remember him giving the puck away more than McQuaid Boychuck or Even Chara's flop passes out of the D zone
     
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    Off the top of my head, there was a game he was pretty horrible in about a week or two ago, on the PP he fired a puck off a forward in front of him when nothing opened up, it got taken the other way for a break away that thomas bailed him out in..

    Later in the same game he tried to force a pass at center that resulted in a turn over that ended up leading to a goal.

    I think it was the atlanta game.. but I am not sure..

    But like i said, if you can't see the holes, your just watching him as a fan as well.. He needs work, that doesnt mean he is awful.. But those are the kinds of things I don't want to see out of a defensemen..
     
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    In Response to Re: who needs to go when stu returns:
    [QUOTE]Off the top of my head, there was a game he was pretty horrible in about a week or two ago, on the PP he fired a puck off a forward in front of him when nothing opened up, it got taken the other way for a break away that thomas bailed him out in.. Later in the same game he tried to force a pass at center that resulted in a turn over that ended up leading to a goal. I think it was the atlanta game.. but I am not sure.. But like i said, if you can't see the holes, your just watching him as a fan as well.. He needs work, that doesnt mean he is awful.. But those are the kinds of things I don't want to see out of a defensemen..
    Posted by rolerhoky19[/QUOTE]

    Well you cant just focus on his mistakes all the Dman are making some sloppy mistakes. Biggest 2 would be Chara/Boychuck chara like cant make a break out pass anymore its really annoying.  Boychuck steps up every single time on the Blueline because of that the centers are always there to bail him out but if they werent those would be some bad breaks as well.

    Hes got as many goals any other Dman in only 12games. Id say its worth a shot to give him time over the abundance of similar Dman in Stuey/McQuaid/Boychuck
     
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    I am not focusing on just his mistakes..
    Stuart does not belong in the same sentence as mcquaid and boychuck, hes been solid on the blue line since his arrival..  Mcquaid and Kampfer play a game that is nothing alike, Mcquaid doesn't make the mistakes taht Kampfer does, similarly he isnt going to create the chances Kampfer does..

    Boychuk has struggled this year so maybe hes the guy.. But it really doesnt change anything I have said which is Mcquaid kampfer and boychuck should be battling for the last 2 spots, and if we can keep all 3 up (cap consideration) then you juggle those 3 around based on opponent.. If not Kampfer has some holes in his game that are the simpliest to fix.. Mental aspects are easier to over come then physical ones, or changing your playing style.. Boychuk will never be a great skater, mcquaid is never going to lead a break out etc, defensively that doesnt mean they aren't making mistakes, failure to execute is not the same as making simple mental mistakes..

    Keep in mind that hunwick had 25 points through 52 games as a rookie and how things turned out for him, I mean we were keeping him over stuart and ference 2 years ago as well if fans on the boards got there wish..
     
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    [QUOTE]I think Stuart should come back in for McQuaid.  Kampfer stays.  Did you see any of the Kings-Blackhawks game?  Jack Johnson was a beast.  A failed clear by Doughty cost them the game winning goal.  It's clear LA.  It's time to trade us Doughty.
    Posted by mattc355[/QUOTE]
    Drew Doughty is the kind of player you build a team around! Even if LA was entertaining offers...for starters Tyler Segin would have to be involved in that deal, plus the Leaf's pick. I would love to have Doughty as a Bruin..but the asking price would be steep. The way the Leafs are going we have a shot at this Larsson kid.....who had a great WJHC.
     
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    Well we all know Hunwicks source of power was his spleen. So hopefulli Kampfer can keep that thing in check.

    I think its not a bad idea to rotate McQuaid/Boychuck at this point I think both of them benefitted from some time upstairs. Throw Kampfer in there if his play deteriorates some as well.


     
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    In Response to Re: who needs to go when stu returns:[QUOTE]In Response to Re: who needs to go when stu returns : sandog , why do you feel certain that Kampfer should be sent down ? Posted by Chowdahkid-[/QUOTE]

    Damn I wasn't even drinking when I wrote that maybe I should have been Wink. I meant to scribe Kampfer should not be sent down IMO.
     
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    ILH,
    even then i think your handing kampfer more then he deserves, both mquaid and boychuk are more established pros..  Though that doesnt allow for much, but they are both better defensively at this point, they are both much more physical.. And in my opinion are less mistake prone.. The goaltending has started to cool off if kampfer continues to make the mistakes he has they could become really costly.

    He has earned the right to be able to battle for the 6th man on the ice, but he certainly hasnt been hands down better then other guys that I would hand him the number 5 or whatever and say hey your in the line up..

     
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    I'm with the keep Kamfer guys or gals. He does have skills that the other defensemen do not have in his speed and offensive smarts. I would trade Boychuck since Stuart is just as strong and more experienced at the NHL level. McQuaid is learning every game, and is a better skater than Boychuck. Ference has been one of the better D men all year, but still gets run over and out-muscled by bigger and faster forwards. IMO Chara's game has been mediocre this year. Many listings do not include him in the top 15 defensemen. Also Kamfer helps Seidenberg play better even though it should be the other way around.
     
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    "veteran presence" has come to an end

    recchi is an anchor on any line he plays, he just plain slows it down. i've been calling for this for a couple weeks now- but what do you do? is there a market for a 4? year old dude? everyone talks about how the b's are "slow"- well this would add young,hungry legs.  rotate a couple different young guys(caron/arniel/colburne)...let them compete for ice time...just a thought 
     
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    btw i thought i was starting a new headline- sorry
     
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    Roller your probably right about me giving Kamp more than you. I played a very similar game to Kampfer(Nowhere near the skill level of course) and I have always favored offensive defenseman.

    I still think Stuey/McQuaid/Boychuck all have the same game, but with different quirks. McQuaid is tough as nails but the least seasoned of the three. Boychuck has a monster shot and can hit but makes mistakes when he takes chances and they dont work out. Stuart is probably the most reliable but with no offensive upside. Making at least one of those 3 redundant whereas Kampfer brings a unique skillset to the team.
     
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    In Response to Re: who needs to go when stu returns:
    [QUOTE]btw i thought i was starting a new headline- sorry
    Posted by adkbeesfan[/QUOTE]


    Haha fail-post.

    I kind of agree I would like recchi to be the the 4th line winger and PP/Offensive zone faceoff specialist. Put Marchand on the 3rd line with Bergy and Seguin...

    But it would be tough as hell for any coach to tell Rexster that he has to sit. Guy has the heart of a lion and is a workhorse, even if his legs dont move as fast as they used to.
     
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    In Response to Re: who needs to go when stu returns:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: who needs to go when stu returns : Drew Doughty is the kind of player you build a team around! Even if LA was entertaining offers...for starters Tyler Segin would have to be involved in that deal, plus the Leaf's pick. I would love to have Doughty as a Bruin..but the asking price would be steep. The way the Leafs are going we have a shot at this Larsson kid.....who had a great WJHC.
    Posted by Beezfan4life[/QUOTE]
    There's no way it would take seguin AND the Leafs #1  for starters.That would already be too much to give.LA won't be moving him so the point is moot.
     
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    Dez,
    I agree with Beez..I think that is the deal it would take,
    Doughty is hands down the best young dman, there is no way around that, 21, 22 and will only get better.. I would assume building a franchise around he might be the number 3,4th player most gms would take at this point..

    Seguin has shown flashes.. but a great quote that came out at the end of last season was "imaging getting 50 goals from stamkos, and knowing you got the 2nd best player available in the draft"..

    norris candidate in his second season, only getting better..
     
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