Who says resign Kaberle?

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    Who says resign Kaberle?

    First off this a theory and question. Your feed back and discussion is open

    I took a look at what FA's d men that may be available this summer that caught my eyes:

    Andy Greene, Eric Brewer, Kevin Bieska, Christian Erhoff and Anton Stralman.

    Andy Greene - OK
    Eric Brewer -  we have Kaberle same age
    Kevin Bieska- Bruins have Boychuk and McQuiad
    Christian Erhoff- we have Sieds
    Anton Stralman- we have baby b's d men who can do the same job

    The Biggest name is a RFA and that is Yandle, I would like to see him wearing a Bruins jersey but what will he cost. Or take a chance on Bogosian.

    For our Bruins mngt. may speculate the pickings for a dman is slim and what is our chances to get Dougie Hamilton draft day.

    Our Bruins d core is: with out Kabs

    Chara, Sieds, McQuaid, Boychuk, Ference, Kamfer ( and the baby b's training camp).

    Everyone been saying we need an elite goal scorer ...

    I personally think we need another top d man and replacement for Savard which we have in the near future Knight and Seguin.

    The Bruins option are:

    (1) sign Kaberle for 3 years at 3.5 mill to 4.5 mill
    (2) very slim chance to acquire Yandle
    (3) trade our 1st rd. draft for Bogosian
    (4) trade our 1st rd. draft and good prospect ie caron to get take a shot at Hamilton

    (A) Take a chance on Richards for a quick fix at center
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    i say get Lidstrom. he's more better.

     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    I just mentioned this on another thread but James Wisniewski is also a UFA at the end of the season. At only 27, I would take him in a hearbeat over Kaberle. He is a powerplay quarterback & has great speed & a nice shot. Him & Chara together would have great potential.
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    Kaberle will be resigned by the Bruins to a 4-5year deal..in the neighborhood of 4-4.5mil per year.. Bruins gave up quite a bit to let him walk for nothing..
    A full year under the B's system will see a different Kaberle.. He's too good a player to be playing like he is..I just don't think he has settled into a role on this team yet and might be trying to hard to fit in..
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    Why not Wisniewski or Pitkanen ? I like both on the Bruins PP next season. Chiarelli said that Joni was a target of his but Rutherford held on to him because Carolina were still trying to make the playoffs. Pitkanen was my choice over Kaberle to begin with.
     
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    I have no problem with what Kaberle is doing but if he wants to be re-signed to big money, he'll need to contribute more.  There are a lot of variables here, Savard's status and the Bruins success being key ones.  I'm content to enjoy the playoffs and wonder about off season moves after the Bruins play their last game.  If that game is in June, there will be strong motivation to resign kabs, I'm sure.
     
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    They will have to sign Kaberle at least to a Sign and trade, if not the deal was a complete failure.

    I would love to have Yandle, if he could discipline himself moreso on defense he would be a perfect fit for Boston. The thing is he is an RFA? I do not believe the bruins would have the compensation to offer him package. Also, in a sign and trade for Yandle the price would be very high. Krejci+ Or so.

    If you were a betting man and can predict that Tyler Seguin will greatly outperform Krejci next year then i would make the move. But the safe move is to give Kaberle a few years 3-4mil try and pry A. Greene for a 2.2-2.5mil deal keep Krejci and see how much offense you can get out fo the likes of Seguin/Suave/Spooner/Caron next year.
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    Sign him at a huge pay cut or let him walk.  If he really wanted to be a Bruin, like many had posted before the trade then he will take a discount to stay.  He's not worth more than 3mil. 2.5 maybe.
     
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    In Response to Re: Who says resign Kaberle?:
    Sign him at a huge pay cut or let him walk.  If he really wanted to be a Bruin, like many had posted before the trade then he will take a discount to stay.  He's not worth more than 3mil. 2.5 maybe.
    Posted by scooter244


    there is no way way in the world that kaberle should be resigned. i dont know about anyone else but he has been awful. slow skater, a mess in his own end and he makes way to many mistakes that lead to odd man rushes like bad pinches and bad passes. i am honestly to the point were i want him in press box for hnidy or kampfer if he is healthy. i hate to say it but anyone who is paired with kaberle has not only seen his ice time diminish but there play has too. game 5 halpern goal was completely kaberle and mcquaid fault, talk about a bad pairing kaberle has defiantly brought macquaid down they should put a tent on that circus.
     
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    Yes, we should resign him and go for the all time record for least power play goals by a team in a full season. The over under will be about 25 LOL.
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    NOOOOOOO WAAAAAY. Stop smoking that aweful Indonesian junk thats going around. He's a GONER.

    In Response to Re: Who says resign Kaberle?:
    Kaberle will be resigned by the Bruins to a 4-5year deal..in the neighborhood of 4-4.5mil per year.. Bruins gave up quite a bit to let him walk for nothing.. A full year under the B's system will see a different Kaberle.. He's too good a player to be playing like he is..I just don't think he has settled into a role on this team yet and might be trying to hard to fit in..
    Posted by cowboys9

     
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    If we do not Sign Keberle we are going after Yandle via offer sheet and could possibly land him...A chance to play back home and the fact that Coyotes could be on the move might persuade him.
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    Let him go BUT make sure we get an NHL ready North American defensman this summer -- another reason I can't believe they traded Stuart.


    (Not to go on a tangent, but Wheeler for Peverly would have been fine, why throw in Stuart for Valabik??? This deal really still hurts. Stuart was a guy who always stepped it up in the playoffs -- a real Shupey kind of guy, I'd say)
     
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    at a discount 2.5mill at the most, maybe he will turn it on tonight and well all be saying  sign baby sign and we all be fat and happy! and carrying the cup downtown boston GO BRIUNS
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    I doubt they let him walk - they'll make an offer.  That doesn't mean he'll stay.  I could see Burke deciding the coup de grace in his Kessel trade revenge strategy is re-signing Kaberle.  Two first rounders to rent TK for a month or two is pretty close to two top ten first rounders and a high second rounder for the right to overpay Phil Kessel.

    Keep in mind that Kaberle has never played in a system as structured as the one CJ has in place.  In his time in the NHL, he's played for coaches who prefer more of a flow - Pat Quinn, Paul Maurice, and now Ron Wilson.  He has not found a way to deliver results in a structured system.  That doesn't mean he won't, and I'm pretty sure the feeling on him would be different if the PP was doing anything whatsoever.  When he first arrived, he was sliding passes over to Chara for bombs constantly, but the forwards weren't able to get tips, screens, or rebounds.  Not Kaberle's fault.
     
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    Clearly we gave up a LOT for Kaberle who by all accounts has been a bust so far which makes the trade look like a bad deal.  Re-signing hime for 4-5 yrs at anywhere near what he is making know would be another bad deal (based on how he's played thus far for the Bs).  Two bad deals don't make a good one. 

    Our pp needs help and we need another dman next year, I like the sound of Wisniewski...several years younger, can QB the pp, can take/give a hit, etc.  Even if you have to sign him for 4/5 yrs at 4.5 mil, I still take that deal over a comparable one to Kaberle.

     
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    as usual i skipped over bobos post, but i nanswer to this thread, yes, re-sign kaberle
     
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    I don't think signing Yandle is do-able with him being an RFA and only 24 meaning he has only 2 more years to UFA.  I can't see Phoenix/winnepeg not matching any offer 1-2 yr offer any team makes...as any new team wouldn't be "buying out" UFA years, the draft pick compensation wouldn't make-up for the fact that Phoenix/winnepeg would be losing its second leading scorer (only a second rounder if avg salary is $1.5M - $3M).  Any team making an offer and "buying out" UFA years is going to be paying big bucks/years...if avg salary is over $4.6M, then its a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder...something I just can't see PC being willing to part with that.
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    Boston can not make an offer sheet.  It does not own its own draft picks, which by the CBA are required as compensation.  You can not use other teams 1st and 2nds in their place.  Please stop speculating about making offer sheets for RFA's.  It's a bad strategy anyway.
     
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    I'm confused. PC has been a pretty good judge of players, and he has been totally sold on Kaberle. Kaberle has been "confused by Claude's structured defense. So was Seguin; so is Horton; Lucic is not exactly a happy camper;Seidenberg has adapted, but is not always in the right position. Perhaps it's time to sign Kaberle and let Claude retire as the "new " kids coming up may also have real trouble adapting. Can Bartkowski, who almost made the varsity in September, be as bad as he appears to be? Or is it Claude's "system". The way Kaberle has been playing he does not look good, or maybe he will not want to sign for another year under Claude?? The next week or two should establish a better perspective on Claude and the players.
     
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    Horton and Lucic have had the best years of their careers.  I don't see how the system is holding them back.
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    No on Kaberle. Not enough bang for the buck... and for the first time in a long time, the B's won't be picking at scraps this summer. Here's the money coming off the books:
    Ryder- $4M
    Recchi- $2M
    Kaberle- $4.25M
    Hnidy- $0.5M
    Scaefer- $0.75M (buyout)
    Savard- $4M (LTIR/retirement)
    Chara- $0.6M (new contract starts, lower cap #)

    Assuming Marchand (RFA) signs a deal for around $2M, which is around what I would expect the cap to increase by considering the new NHL/TV deal, that puts us in a situation of having around $16M of cap space. We need to put together essentially a whole new forward line (replace Recchi, Ryder, Savard), a stud d-man (to "replace" Kaberle) and a depth d-man. Let's assume Caron ($1.1M) takes Recchi's spot, and Kampfer ($0.85M) is your depth D (instead of Hnidy). Let's also assume that they make Seguin a regular and essential slots in for Ryder. That leaves you $14M for a forward (center/wing depending on what they decide Seguin is and if they think Krejci is a #1 center) and a d-man. With that much wiggle room, the B's can make a serious impact... even dare to drop some offer sheets on the likes of Yandle or Parise if so inclined and the opportunity presents itself. Take a run at Brad Richards. For the first time since the Chara/Savard signings in '06, we're going to be in a VERY good spot. They can even do more in trades because they can agree to take on salary.

     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    One thing i was unaware of about Kaberle before he came to Boston is that he NEVER  SHOOTS THE F**CKING  PUCK !!!! What good is a d-man that won't shoot ? I seriously reconsider signing him and if they do not for big money.
     
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    In Response to Re: Who says resign Kaberle?:
    I doubt they let him walk - they'll make an offer.  That doesn't mean he'll stay.  I could see Burke deciding the coup de grace in his Kessel trade revenge strategy is re-signing Kaberle.  Two first rounders to rent TK for a month or two is pretty close to two top ten first rounders and a high second rounder for the right to overpay Phil Kessel. Keep in mind that Kaberle has never played in a system as structured as the one CJ has in place.  In his time in the NHL, he's played for coaches who prefer more of a flow - Pat Quinn, Paul Maurice, and now Ron Wilson.  He has not found a way to deliver results in a structured system.  That doesn't mean he won't, and I'm pretty sure the feeling on him would be different if the PP was doing anything whatsoever.  When he first arrived, he was sliding passes over to Chara for bombs constantly, but the forwards weren't able to get tips, screens, or rebounds.  Not Kaberle's fault.
    Posted by Bookboy007


    Burke doesn't want him, that was clear for over two years he tried to trade him.  Unless it's a huge discount, in which case would Toronto be his first choice?  
    Good point about the coaching styles.  Maybe he would feel more comfortable in a more open system.   
    Still say, for 2.5 to 3 mil he brings enough, especially puck retrieval and moving it out (he's very good at that).  Compare those numbers to Ference's 2.25 and Siendenburg's 3.25 and he could fit in.  Not like the organization is deep at D.
     
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    Re: Who says resign Kaberle?

    No way in hell we will resign Kabe unless he has awesome performances for the rest of the playoffs...(why not start tonigh) .....Dougie Hamilton might still be available at no.6 ...I say we make a trade to move 2 or 3 ranks higher...and we can also take a chance at Bogosian if we let go Kabe...


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