Witch Hunt
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Witch Hunt
posted at 1/23/2011 5:43 AM EST
Recently a poster ( let's call him 'God's gift to hockey' ) on this board proclaimed Mark Stuart to be a #2 defenceman. Stuart was a healthy scratch yesterday basically putting him #7 on the depth chart for the moment . Do you agree with God's gift to hockey's ranking of Stuart and where would you put him ( #2 through #7 ) ?
Personally, I like Stuart, but a #2 ? C'mon ! BTW , earlier in the year God's gift to hockey suggested for Stuart to be on the PP. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 6:31 AM EST
Anyone paired with Chara looks like a great # 2 defenseman...his partners always look good...but NO ..talent wise..Stuart is the # 5 guy at best....if you compare him individually to Kampher, Boychuk or Seindenberg , he comes up short every time...Ference should be the 7th -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 8:09 AM EST
Sorry, but Ference is sitting at a +18 right now. As a defenseman, that's all we can ask of him. Seems like he's not making bonehead decisions like he was last year. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 8:45 AM EST
A question-- If two opposing forwards are breaking on one Bruins D-man, who would you want that D-man to be? -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 9:05 AM EST
In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?:A question-- If two opposing forwards are breaking on one Bruins D-man, who would you want that D-man to be?
Posted by CarolinaClamMan
Honestly... McQuaid. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 9:14 AM EST
IMO Stuart is still a 3rd pairing d-man. He is better than Boychuck in many areas; he is better than McQuaid in experience; he is about even with Ference. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 9:42 AM EST
To answer my own question, it would be Ference. He is the most skilled skater of the bunch, and has the best timing and innate instinct to make a split second move. Could be that's why he has such a high plus minus. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 10:23 AM EST
Who said Mark Stuart is a #2 defenseman?
If it was me, that was nothing more than a typo.
Can you supply a link to the post. I'd be surprised if I had stated that. When I saw the headline, I thought, "No, he isn't." I should have expected a dig coming my way. LOL
Post the link to the thread, please. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 10:23 AM EST
Post script: I voted #4. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 10:25 AM EST
I voted #5, but I think he is more of a 4/5 guy, can play in either pair. I don't feel the same about Ference and McQuaid, who are 5/6 guys IMO, and shouldn't play in the 2nd pair.
Boychuk seems like the wild card here, as he played much like a 2/3 last year, but more like a 4/5 this year. Boychuk needs to be better. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 10:37 AM EST
The more I think about this, the more I wonder where the mistake has been made. I've made plenty of posts calling for a #2 defenseman on the Bruins. Why would I do that if I believed that Stuart was just that?
My guess is either a typo from me, an unintentional misinterpretation by Chowda or an intentional misinterpretation by Chowda.
No matter: I do not believe Mark Stuart is a #2 defenseman, so this thread is useless. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 10:39 AM EST
Oh I forgot the disclaimer. Any similarity to the fictional character 'God's gift to hockey' is purely a coincidence.
Anyone answering this thread thinking I was referring to them as 'God's gift to hockey'.......you are in love with yourself.
Now back to the vote. I voted #5. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 10:44 AM EST
Like many of your posts, this was clearly directed at me.
Put up the link to the thread that suggests Stuart is a #2. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 10:51 AM EST
NAS
I guess Chowda drew you out, you really do think you are God's gift to hockey, I didn't see your name mentioned, it might have been Stanley he was talking about.
Chowda you have to back it up with proof now if it was NAS you were talking about.
2 on 1 TTis #1, then Chara, Ference then the rest, Seid last in this one. Seid is great at blocking shots, but to me does not look as comfortable 2-1. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 11:02 AM EST
In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?:NAS I guess Chowda drew you out, you really do think you are God's gift to hockey, I didn't see your name mentioned, it might have been Stanley he was talking about.
Posted by No4BobbyOrr-GOAT
If you've been following this poster, you've seen many backhand threads dedicated to me, along with backhand slights in his sig line aimed at me.
This one is no different.
He's simply trying to cover his tracks because I don't believe I ever suggested Stuart is a #2 defenseman. A man would stand up and say, "Darn. My mistake. I was just giving it to you, but looks like I missed the mark." Not this guy, however. Instead, he pulls this foolishness. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 11:03 AM EST
In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?:Chowda you have to back it up with proof now if it was NAS you were talking about.
Posted by No4BobbyOrr-GOAT
Yes.
Let's see that thread. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 11:06 AM EST
He is coming off a injury...when at full speed he is a very good defensively and a great hitter on this team I would put him behind Chara, Sidy and Bouchuk.... I thought he was our best defensemen at the beginning of the year -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 11:41 AM EST
In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?:Who said Mark Stuart is a #2 defenseman? If it was me, that was nothing more than a typo. Can you supply a link to the post. I'd be surprised if I had stated that. When I saw the headline, I thought, "No, he isn't." I should have expected a dig coming my way. LOL Post the link to the thread, please.
Posted by Not-A-Shot
How do you know he was talking to you ? LOL was it because he said "God's gift .... ?
For the record I put him no5 . Maybe if he got hurt a little less and with consistency he could move up on that chart.
Once SanDog mentioned how good Stuart was in the WJC. I think another injury slowed him down before jumping to the pros. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 11:48 AM EST
"Stuart is the # 5 guy at best" and that's all folks expendable with an expiring contract which is not a slight just a reality. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 11:50 AM EST
In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?:In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman? : How do you know he was talking to you ? LOL was it because he said "God's gift .... ? For the record I put him no5 . Maybe if he got hurt a little less and with consistency he could move up on that chart. Once SanDog mentioned how good Stuart was in the WJC. I think another injury slowed him down before jumping to the pros.
Posted by BsLegion
Because I know his style of posting.
Let's see him produce the thread that states this and we'll see. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 12:16 PM EST
In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?:In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman? : Because I know his style of posting. Let's see him produce the thread that states this and we'll see.
Posted by Not-A-Shot
Did I mention your name at all in this post ? What are you a mind reader now ? You know nothing about my style of posting .Talk about being paranoid.
Stick to the topic or get lost . -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 12:19 PM EST
Right now I feel like its
Chara-Siedenberg-Ference-Boychuck-Kampfer-Stuart
But I voted for 5th because Stuart Ference and Boychuck can all play like #4-5-6 D on any given night. McQuaid plays at his best a #5 game but he is solid in most situations and tough as nails. But no Stuart is not even close to a #2 infact Siedes is more of a 3-4 guy just plays like a #2 here. Still that is a roster gap that PC should fill before teh deadline if you ask me. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 12:19 PM EST
I'm interested in seeing the proof that someone suggested Stuart is a #2 defenseman.
Post it. -
Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 1:11 PM EST
In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?:"Stuart is the # 5 guy at best" and that's all folks expendable with an expiring contract which is not a slight just a reality.Where is the "like" button for this forum? Well said SanDog.
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Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?
posted at 1/23/2011 1:19 PM EST
In Response to Re: Is Mark Stuart a #2 defenceman?:I'm interested in seeing the proof that someone suggested Stuart is a #2 defenseman. Post it.
Posted by Not-A-Shot
So did you actually say Stuart should be used on PP? Because who ever said Stuart was a number 2 also said he should be used on the PP according to the first post. You are arguing the #2 aspect but not the PP part when both are silly.