Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 5:15 PM EST
In response to paulbking's comment:
remember the crap "they" said about horton in florida?he's 21 yrs old he'll learn
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 5:22 PM EST
In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:
In response to Crowls2424's comment:
Salaries match, Kane is under control longer and is 5 years younger. Seems like Seguin slides to center and Kane or Marchand will need to play the off-wing.
Where am I off on this, red? Am I under-rating Krejci and chasing the shiny new object?
Crowls,
Why would you want to change how it is right now with the Top 6? With your suggestion, both lines are blown up, two players are in new positions (on this team) and a player who comes off as "me first" is injected into a locker room where the only word is "team".
Eyes tell me that Kane has a skills to be elite, although limited sample size. Also, still believe that Seguin needs to be a center, despite CJ's reluctance.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 5:30 PM EST
In response to paulbking's comment:
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 5:40 PM EST
In response to Crowls2424's comment:
In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:
In response to Crowls2424's comment:
Salaries match, Kane is under control longer and is 5 years younger. Seems like Seguin slides to center and Kane or Marchand will need to play the off-wing.
Where am I off on this, red? Am I under-rating Krejci and chasing the shiny new object?
Crowls,
Why would you want to change how it is right now with the Top 6? With your suggestion, both lines are blown up, two players are in new positions (on this team) and a player who comes off as "me first" is injected into a locker room where the only word is "team".
Fair question, no way to quantify the "me first" aspect of Kane's game. I am just not a huge DK guy. Too much inconsistancy in Krejci's game to be considered elite. Going is great now, but is the same guy that totaled 62 points last year (and the year before) as your #1 center. He is scoring at a point/GP pace now, but is likely to revert and end up at his "62 Point" pace.
Eyes tell me that Kane has a skills to be elite, although limited sample size. Also, still believe that Seguin needs to be a center, despite CJ's reluctance.
Seguin will not be moved to center until he learns to play against the boards. In the Bruins system the center in the defensive zone is require to win the puck behind the net and in the corners.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 5:50 PM EST
Seguin will not be moved to center until he learns to play against the boards. In the Bruins system the center in the defensive zone is require to win the puck behind the net and in the corners.
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Don't entirely disagree OTB. Not sure I would translate what we see from Seguin's RW corner game to be indicitive of what he might look like as a center.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 6:06 PM EST
Just a thought regarding those who want to see Seguin play center immediately.
In the defensive end, Julien ( at times ) takes Seguin off the ice and replaces him with a center from another line . This is done in case Bergeron gets kicked out of the faceoff.
Q: Why doesn't Julien keep Seguin on the ice in case this happens ?
I'm thinking Julien doesn't trust Seguin in the faceoff circle in the defensive zone in critical situations.
B) Why not Marchand to the bench instead of Seguin ?
Marchand is a more reliable defensive player in CJ's mind ?
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 6:44 PM EST
In response to Chowdahkid-'s comment:
Just a thought regarding those who want to see Seguin play center immediately.
In the defensive end, Julien ( at times ) takes Seguin off the ice and replaces him with a center from another line . This is done in case Bergeron gets kicked out of the faceoff.
Q: Why doesn't Julien keep Seguin on the ice in case this happens ?
I'm thinking Julien doesn't trust Seguin in the faceoff circle in the defensive zone in critical situations.
B) Why not Marchand to the bench instead of Seguin ?
Marchand is a more reliable defensive player in CJ's mind ?
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 7:14 PM EST
No I would not do that trade PBK. You can not mess with team chemistry as NAS referred to. The B's top 2 lines r playing well. If the bruins make a trade, It will be to add a player not subtract a player off there top line. IMO they will trade young players on the farm team or draft picks, and add to their payroll. If u looked at Peter C trades in the past he only traded for a front line player once Kaberle., during the deadline Kelly for 2nd rounder , Perverly for Stuart and Wheeler , Mark Reck for picks. So no PBK don't see that trade happening. I am sure if he has traded for a big time player at the deadline my buddies on the board will correct me not the first time I been wrong won't be the last. Lol
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 7:48 PM EST
In response to SanDogBrewin's comment:
Krejci can pass, score and is a very good defensive center. Kane is young, quick, can score, but is a horrible back-checker, terribly over-valued for his contract and gets caught watching the play in his own zone allot.
NO!
Well stated !
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/22/2013 8:21 PM EST
Why is everyone hanging out in the terrible post?
Let's kill it now and get it over with.
BANG!
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 7:43 AM EST
In response to Crowls2424's comment:
I don't disagree with anything you said about how CJ views/uses Seguin. I would also add that CJ is not 100% right on everything. Would you agree? CJ is also responsible for one of the worst PP in the league and skates #22 on a regular basis.
There has never been a coach in the history of the NHL who has been right 100% of the time. Not even Rick Bowness.
I'm more then comfortable with Julien's decision to leave Seguin on the wing considering the value the other 4 centers bring to the defensive side of playing that position.
The game played on the ice is not all about just scoring.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 8:17 AM EST
CJ's job is to maximize/optimize the roster that he is given by PC, so I agree that given the players he has on his team, he has made the right choices.
The game is not all about scoring and nobody emphasizes that more than CJ. It would be great to see him recognize that scoring is a pretty important part of the game and get a little more aggressive from time-to-time.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 8:53 AM EST
I like kane a lot. Mainly for doing something the bruins couldnt. His one punch of cooke is just awesome.
Kane is very young, i think hes very immature. But i also see a lot of iggy in him. He can dominate, plays power game, skilled and can flat out fly. If this offer were even close to being valid i would do it in a heart beat but thats based a lot of my not really being a fan of DK.
Its not happening. But i would like to see seguin at center.
Seguin kane lucic.
Horton bergie marchand.
Not happening and i dont want to touch the top 2 lines.
I want sarich and jackman from calgary. And i want chimera for the 3rd line.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 8:53 AM EST
In response to Chowdahkid-'s comment:
In response to Crowls2424's comment:
I don't disagree with anything you said about how CJ views/uses Seguin. I would also add that CJ is not 100% right on everything. Would you agree? CJ is also responsible for one of the worst PP in the league and skates #22 on a regular basis.
There has never been a coach in the history of the NHL who has been right 100% of the time. Not even Rick Bowness.
I'm more then comfortable with Julien's decision to leave Seguin on the wing considering the value the other 4 centers bring to the defensive side of playing that position.
The game played on the ice is not all about just scoring.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 9:00 AM EST
In response to Chowdahkid-'s comment:
There has never been a coach in the history of the NHL who has been right 100% of the time. Not even Rick Bowness.
I'm more then comfortable with Julien's decision to leave Seguin on the wing considering the value the other 4 centers bring to the defensive side of playing that position.
The game played on the ice is not all about just scoring.
PS. I see the Rick Bowness reference smart guy. Always doing your Gabriel Bryne "Millers Crossing" impersonation I see...
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 9:48 AM EST
Kane is a good player, but, at this point Kreji is better on more aspects[ PK and passing, set-up] . The only problems with the existing Bruins lineup is the declining capabilities on defense, starting with Ference. Second is the huge weight around the 4th line's effectiveness with Thornton; third, and equally important is the lack of a tough, scoring wing to play with Kelly and Peverly. Peter needs to fix these problems or they will start to bite him in the ----.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 10:57 AM EST
In response to shuperman's comment:
I like kane a lot. Mainly for doing something the bruins couldnt. His one punch of cooke is just awesome.
Kane is very young, i think hes very immature. But i also see a lot of iggy in him. He can dominate, plays power game, skilled and can flat out fly. If this offer were even close to being valid i would do it in a heart beat but thats based a lot of my not really being a fan of DK.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 11:53 AM EST
People were posting trade 18 and Horton pop in two goals playing TB. Now trade Krejci who is off to good start.
If I want to trade someone at the moment will be Thornton. Nothing agst. Thorn but Pandolfo can do a better job with more ice time.
Is Kane on the trade block, last time i checked Chicago is the best team in the league standings wise.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 1:12 PM EST
In response to boborielly224's comment:
People were posting trade 18 and Horton pop in two goals playing TB. Now trade Krejci who is off to good start.
If I want to trade someone at the moment will be Thornton. Nothing agst. Thorn but Pandolfo can do a better job with more ice time.
Is Kane on the trade block, last time i checked Chicago is the best team in the league standings wise.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 1:25 PM EST
A few things i have to add. I believe Krejci is a monster in the playoffs as he has done so in the last few seasons and even before he got hurt in the playoffs VS the Flyers. As for Kane I like him but dont see the Jets making that move. As for the B's making a move I think they will look more to fix the 3rd and 4th lines then look to improve in the scoring section. Also think adding a defenseman would be great. I like Ference and he plays hard with lots of heart but I would like a more physical 6th-7th d-man.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 1:27 PM EST
In response to shuperman's comment:
I like kane a lot. Mainly for doing something the bruins couldnt. His one punch of cooke is just awesome.
Kane is very young, i think hes very immature. But i also see a lot of iggy in him. He can dominate, plays power game, skilled and can flat out fly. If this offer were even close to being valid i would do it in a heart beat but thats based a lot of my not really being a fan of DK.
Its not happening. But i would like to see seguin at center.
Seguin kane lucic.
Horton bergie marchand.
Not happening and i dont want to touch the top 2 lines.
I want sarich and jackman from calgary. And i want chimera for the 3rd line.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 1:32 PM EST
In response to bostonfan191646's comment:
In response to shuperman's comment:
if you want seguin at center why do you have him listed at left wing? and do you want a whole new team while you're at it?
And as I've said many times now, Kane is a LEFT WING. One post even mentioned that was fine because you could move Marchand down to the third line. Yeah, except all of a sudden that means you have no one playing RW on the second line. These fantasy trades that don't even consider team needs drive me nuts.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 1:35 PM EST
In response to red75's comment:
In response to bostonfan191646's comment:
In response to shuperman's comment:
if you want seguin at center why do you have him listed at left wing? and do you want a whole new team while you're at it?
And as I've said many times now, Kane is a LEFT WING. One post even mentioned that was fine because you could move Marchand down to the third line. Yeah, except all of a sudden that means you have no one playing RW on the second line. These fantasy trades that don't even consider team needs drive me nuts.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 3:47 PM EST
In response to bostonfan191646's comment:
In response to shuperman's comment:
I like kane a lot. Mainly for doing something the bruins couldnt. His one punch of cooke is just awesome.
Kane is very young, i think hes very immature. But i also see a lot of iggy in him. He can dominate, plays power game, skilled and can flat out fly. If this offer were even close to being valid i would do it in a heart beat but thats based a lot of my not really being a fan of DK.
Its not happening. But i would like to see seguin at center.
Seguin kane lucic.
Horton bergie marchand.
Not happening and i dont want to touch the top 2 lines.
I want sarich and jackman from calgary. And i want chimera for the 3rd line.
if you want seguin at center why do you have him listed at left wing? and do you want a whole new team while you're at it?
No. Not a new team. I want chimera on the 3rd. Presently a vacant spot there. I want jackman for the 4th line bc he can play and can fight when the need arises. ST to the bleachers, hes just a bad player and no longer fights. And i want sarich for depth. I dont trust AF this year and should there be any type of injury he can fill in and in my eyes is an upgrade back there.
do you think the bruins are gonna have the current lineup when the playoffs start? A 3rd line winger and a depth dman is a must in my eyes. Not immediately, but prior to deadline.
Re: WOUD YOU TRADE
posted at 2/23/2013 3:49 PM EST
In response to bostonfan191646's comment:
In response to red75's comment:
In response to bostonfan191646's comment:
In response to shuperman's comment:
if you want seguin at center why do you have him listed at left wing? and do you want a whole new team while you're at it?
And as I've said many times now, Kane is a LEFT WING. One post even mentioned that was fine because you could move Marchand down to the third line. Yeah, except all of a sudden that means you have no one playing RW on the second line. These fantasy trades that don't even consider team needs drive me nuts.
not to mention marchand is on a pace to tie with vanek for the LEAGUE LEAD IN GOALS. sure lets demote him.
