4 Options With or Without Rondo

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    Re: 4 Options With or Without Rondo

    Option 1?????  50% chance...G T F O H!!!!!!!!!!  Does Gortat even play defense?  We know nash will get eaten up by Rose, Wade, Chalmers, whoever Philly has...

    Keep intact!!!!  The window is closed and let the chips fall where they may this season!!!
     
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    option 5:
    ainge realizes this board is smarter then himself.  hires fiercest to make all the decisions..fiercest trades rondo to everyone surprise for nash and pick.  celts make it to playoffs, nash is more consistent then rondo, but turns out he plays even less defense. gets eaten alive by eastern conference pg's. (Hey I like  NASH alot-just my take).

    I actually think what we see is what we have for this year.. DA wants cap room for next year. If he can resign KG for under 7 million I think he does it for 1 year. Ray for under 4 million, maybe he does  it. But he resigns jeff green for sure.  so the core is
    PG-rondo/bradley,SG-moore/,? SF- green/ pierce, PF-jjj/kg , C- ?/bass/steima  .  what we need is a center and a sg who can great his own shot.    but DA has cap room...

    especially if we do not resign kg and rayray. rondo makes 10 Million, pierce makes 16.9? million. green makes 8-9 million. other make 5 ish million..that leaves 15 million -ish for a center and a scorer....

    by the end of the year we will know how good Moore can be..As well as a better read on JJJ (green btw is a small forward).  anyway, what do I know...

     
     
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    In Response to Re: 4 Options With or Without Rondo : Gortat is a good defender. You didn't see what he did to our bigs when the Suns beat the Celts last January? You're underestimating Steve Nash. The coaches voted Nash to the All-Star team. Rondo didn't make the All-Star team. I think the coaches have more credibility than you. And you giving up on the Celtics already? We're not even at the halfway point yet.
    Posted by Fiercest34


    So e.g. since Rudy Gay is not an All Star player, you wouldn't trade Pierce for him, am i right? 
     
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    In Response to Re: 4 Options With or Without Rondo : Seems fair straight up... old big for young big, old PG for young PG... Rondo is as much better an asset and future talent as Gortat is. JO and Nash or both old expirings. The Suns have options at C. Robin Lopez as a restricted free agent they can keep him for 5-6m a year easy and Channing Frye can play some Center and is currently overpaid for years. Morris their draft pick has the bulk/upside to be a Kurt Thomas/PJ Brown guy in the trenches. That team will have NO PG when Nash leaves and be forced to draft one... its a deep draft but not at PG. There is a lot of Avery type talent, combo-guards, guys you can get in the mid-teens.. Rather than reach for a PG w/ a pick around 10, draft a scoring wing, amnesty Childress, build the new :07 or less team around Rondo, get one more lotto pick in 2013 and have 20 million in cap space to lure young athlete's to be part of a lob city in the desert situation
    Posted by rameakap


    Ibelieve they will still have Aaron Brooks.
     
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    Option 1?????  50% chance...G T F O H!!!!!!!!!!  Does Gortat even play defense?  We know nash will get eaten up by Rose, Wade, Chalmers, whoever Philly has... Keep intact!!!!  The window is closed and let the chips fall where they may this season!!!
    Posted by jdm894g


    Not know how Chalmers would fit in that category, but Rose, Wade, etc pretty much eat up who ever they play, even each other.  So Rose would 34 against Nash and 30 against Rondo.  On the flip side Rose would also be forced to guard someone that actually shoot the ball great from anywere on the court. With that happening imagine how much easier it would be for PP to get open lanes to the rack, Ray getting wide open shots easily..  I don't think there is anyone in the league that creates easier shots for his team mates than Nash. Rondo is good as well but Nash has the threat of scoring which means he will get doubled at times as well, which in turn gets other people open.  PP and KG both can pass the ball well.
     
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    Re: 4 Options With or Without Rondo

    I'll take door number 3.

    Now how do we get Rudy Gay????

     
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    option #1 also gives us only these contracts for next season: Pierce - 16.8 Gortat - 7.2 Bass - 4 (PO) Avery - 1.6 Johnson - 1.1 I'd assume we keep Moore and the Steamer at 1.3 combined... that is 32 million The cap is going to be 56 million, it was locked in You can offer Deron Williams a max deal and still have 6-7 million left over to offer someone (say OJ Mayo) a 5 year deal at 40 million. Then somehow work it where you give the MLE and mini-MLE to KG, Ray and Jeff Green
    Posted by rameakap


    Teams can't use both the MLE and Mini-MLE.
    Boston would have the Mini-MLE and Veterans Minimum to sign Garnett, Allen, Green. I don't think they will work for any 3 of them, much less all 3 of them.
    The Cap is not locked in. It is estimated to be between $58m to $60m.
     
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    In Response to Re: 4 Options With or Without Rondo : If he can escape China I think he'd be a FA after the season
    Posted by rameakap


    When Aaron Brooks returns he will be a Restricted Free Agent.
     
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    If we wait till March 1st we can add Dooling and either Sasha/Daniels to the deal and get back Grant Hill. A bench with Hill playing point forward and Avery hounding SG's would be pretty scary... with Pietrus already showing he is the best wing we have had since Posey. I think Wilcox/Johnson/Bass/Steamer will hold down the fort fine at the 4-5 but there is a little wiggle room to improve there as well with either Bass or Wilcox, and a draft pick going for an upgraded big making around 5 million.
    Posted by rameakap


    Dooling/Sasha/Daniels have zero trade value.
    The Suns are not going to hand over Nash, Gortat and Grant Hill to Boston.
     
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    I like option #1, we go all in this year. This current Celts team is only a big man away from being an elite team. If you guys want to keep Rondo then we trade Ray. Keep Ray or Rondo, but not both.
    Posted by Fiercest34


    Glad to see you finally coming around to my genius!!
     
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    In Response to Re: 4 Options With or Without Rondo : sorry expiring contracts have trade value.. duh, have you paid attention to the league the past 10 years??? and when you get a 26 year old all-star 11 assist PG all defensive 1st teamer back... and 2 of the 3 guys you give up are on their last legs and closer to 40 than 35... well sounds like they are not 'handing over' anybody but getting a more than fair deal thanks for playing tho, why I respond to a despised, ignorant, and formerly banned laker troll is beyond me
    Posted by rameakap


    Grant Hill is already on an expiring contract.
    Why would Phoenix trade him for other expiring contracts of worse players?
     
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    So, basically Phoenix would have to give up their 3 best players for Rondo and pieces....

    That sounds like the trade proposal that was floated here which would send Utah's best two players (Millsap & Jefferson) to Boston for KG's expiring contract.

    Boston could make that deal with Lopez instead of Gortat.
    BTW, Lopez is a terrible NBA player.

     
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    Are you going to admit you are wrong about Boston using the MLE and Mini-MLE to re-sign KG, Allen and Green.
    BTW, Green is an Unrestricted Free Agent.
    Boston will have to use up Cap space to sign him or he is gone.
     
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    In Response to Re: 4 Options With or Without Rondo : If the Grizz offered Rudy Gay for Pierce I would do the deal. Why? Both Gay and Pierce are scorers and can shoot the ball from anywhere on the court. The only difference is Pierce is old while Gay is young. Why I will trade Nash for Rondo? Both are great PGs, but Nash can shoot and Rondo can't. Enough said.
    Posted by Fiercest34


    Are you kidding me? Nash is 38 years old.  He is good for maybe just for one year or by year to year!!

    Forget it!!!
     
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