5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     



    I have to respectfully disagree. Your number two rationale trumps all. However, for the opposite reason. By the time the Celtics regain relevance, RR will be post 30. Why not go & get a top 5 Center like Asik(and a 1st rounder) and gamble on picking up a gem? Many posters here like to point out RR's draft position. Lightning never striking the same place twice is a myth. Isn't Danny supposed to be the ultimate gambler? Indeed we shall see...

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     



    I have to respectfully disagree. Your number two rationale trumps all. However, for the opposite reason. By the time the Celtics regain relevance, RR will be post 30. Why not go & get a top 5 Center like Asik(and a 1st rounder) and gamble on picking up a gem? Many posters here like to point out RR's draft position. Lightning never striking the same place twice is a myth. Isn't Danny supposed to be the ultimate gambler? Indeed we shall see...



    I'd agree with your  rational on point two except I think you are forgetting how flush the Celtics are with Picks and younger talent. Plenty of assets, to trade for a star if one becomes availible. but a star needs another star to compete.  

    My point is I think if you look at Ainge's history. he kept Pierce, traded Jefferson and a top five pick for Allen and KG. 

    I think he keeps Rondo and trade's young assets for other players if he can. 

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     

     



    I have to respectfully disagree. Your number two rationale trumps all. However, for the opposite reason. By the time the Celtics regain relevance, RR will be post 30. Why not go & get a top 5 Center like Asik(and a 1st rounder) and gamble on picking up a gem? Many posters here like to point out RR's draft position. Lightning neverstriking the same place twice is a myth. Isn't Danny supposed to be the ultimate gambler? Indeed we shall see...

     



    I'd agree with your  rational on point two except I think you are forgetting how flush the Celtics are with Picks and younger talent. Plenty of assets, to trade for a star if one becomes availible. but a star needs another star to compete.  

    My point is I think if you look at Ainge's history. he kept Pierce, traded Jefferson and a top five pick for Allen and KG. 

    I think he keeps Rondo and trade's young assets for other players if he can. 



    I think it's  50/50 either way- which could be viewed as a cop out but is probably as close to quantifying it as one can get...

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     


    Be serious.28 years old is not 38 or 48.A player reach his peak between 26-30.Rondo,if healthy still have 5-6 years of good basketball.

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     


    Playing Rondo makes us a bottom-feeder too... as he is irrelevant... and I feel your angst.

    Pud

     

     
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    Guess we'll find out we'll find out how Rondo looks when he plays against the Lakers.  Enjoy!

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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    Rondo would have been gone years ago, but other teams were not willing to offer much for him.  Rondo is ours to keep.

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to jtkl's comment:

    In response to tomobo's comment:

     

    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     

     



    I have to respectfully disagree. Your number two rationale trumps all. However, for the opposite reason. By the time the Celtics regain relevance, RR will be post 30. Why not go & get a top 5 Center like Asik(and a 1st rounder) and gamble on picking up a gem? Many posters here like to point out RR's draft position. Lightning neverstriking the same place twice is a myth. Isn't Danny supposed to be the ultimate gambler? Indeed we shall see...

     



    I'd agree with your  rational on point two except I think you are forgetting how flush the Celtics are with Picks and younger talent. Plenty of assets, to trade for a star if one becomes availible. but a star needs another star to compete.  

    My point is I think if you look at Ainge's history. he kept Pierce, traded Jefferson and a top five pick for Allen and KG. 

    I think he keeps Rondo and trade's young assets for other players if he can. 




    i understand that rondo is an asset for us to get another all star  or superstar. 

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to puddinpuddin's comment:

    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     


    Playing Rondo makes us a bottom-feeder too... as he is irrelevant... and I feel your angst.

    Pud

     



    Every player on the Celtics is irrelevant. Yet you only post about one.

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to romneywins' comment:

    Rondo would have been gone years ago, but other teams were not willing to offer much for him.  Rondo is ours to keep.



    Kinda like the pooch down at the Humane Society that nobody wants to adopt.

    Pud

     
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    AHAHAHAHAAA a dog with a hat on! AHAHAHAHAHAAAAa

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     



    jtkl,

    I disagree with your #1. It is not a fact - it's your opinion. IMO, Miami doesn't have a decent PG. Unless, of course, you count Lebron as a PG. I bet Riley would give an arm and a leg to land RR on South Beach, would probably sell his soul if he had one. But it's a topic for another thread.

    Regardless, thanks for the post.

     

    AK

     

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to TheBigTicket05's comment:

    In response to jtkl's comment:

    In response to tomobo's comment:

     

    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     

     



    I have to respectfully disagree. Your number two rationale trumps all. However, for the opposite reason. By the time the Celtics regain relevance, RR will be post 30. Why not go & get a top 5 Center like Asik(and a 1st rounder) and gamble on picking up a gem? Many posters here like to point out RR's draft position. Lightning neverstriking the same place twice is a myth. Isn't Danny supposed to be the ultimate gambler? Indeed we shall see...

     



    I'd agree with your  rational on point two except I think you are forgetting how flush the Celtics are with Picks and younger talent. Plenty of assets, to trade for a star if one becomes availible. but a star needs another star to compete.  

    My point is I think if you look at Ainge's history. he kept Pierce, traded Jefferson and a top five pick for Allen and KG. 

    I think he keeps Rondo and trade's young assets for other players if he can. 




    i understand that rondo is an asset for us to get another all star  or superstar. 



    Well seriously, when do teams swap superstars? Did Ainge trade Pierce for KG? Did the knicks trade Amare (when he was still good) for Carmelo? Did the Lakers trade Kobe for Dwight Howard? 

     

    Think of most trades involving a superstar, when has another star been swapped for that player? 

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to sinus007's comment:

     

    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     

     



    jtkl,

     

    I disagree with your #1. It is not a fact - it's your opinion. IMO, Miami doesn't have a decent PG. Unless, of course, you count Lebron as a PG. I bet Riley would give an arm and a leg to land RR on South Beach, would probably sell his soul if he had one. But it's a topic for another thread.

    Regardless, thanks for the post.

     

    AK

     

    Well sure, I think the Heat would love Rondo, but they don't have anything to offer for him.  I mean,  What would they give up? Can't give up Chris Bosh because then they don't have length.

    Dwayne Wade? He is what 33 with bad knees? Wade is someone you win now with... Give his age and injury history I can't see Ainge making that swap, and obvisuly they aren't trading lebron. 

     

    So that leaves journeymen role players like Chalmers, Norris Cole, Ray Allen and the birdman. I don't see Ainge making that trade. He'd want value in return. 

    Anyway, we shall see, but most of the teams in contention look to have at least solid point guards.  Granted you are right, that that is just my opinion though.  Best. 

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     




    I have to disagree with point #4. Why would a bottom feeder trade for a 28-year-old. Simple. They're the Bucks! Laughing

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    In response to jtkl's comment:

     

    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     




    I have to disagree with point #4. Why would a bottom feeder trade for a 28-year-old. Simple. They're the Bucks! Laughing



    Ok fair enough. Billy King has proven some GM's can't get fired no matter how hard they try. 

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     

     

     



    I have to respectfully disagree. Your number two rationale trumps all. However, for the opposite reason. By the time the Celtics regain relevance, RR will be post 30. Why not go & get a top 5 Center like Asik(and a 1st rounder) and gamble on picking up a gem? Many posters here like to point out RR's draft position. Lightning neverstriking the same place twice is a myth. Isn't Danny supposed to be the ultimate gambler? Indeed we shall see...

     

     



    I'd agree with your  rational on point two except I think you are forgetting how flush the Celtics are with Picks and younger talent. Plenty of assets, to trade for a star if one becomes availible. but a star needs another star to compete.  

    My point is I think if you look at Ainge's history. he kept Pierce, traded Jefferson and a top five pick for Allen and KG. 

    I think he keeps Rondo and trade's young assets for other players if he can. 




    i understand that rondo is an asset for us to get another all star  or superstar. 



    Well seriously, when do teams swap superstars? Did Ainge trade Pierce for KG? Did the knicks trade Amare (when he was still good) for Carmelo? Did the Lakers trade Kobe for Dwight Howard? 

     

    Think of most trades involving a superstar, when has another star been swapped for that player? 



    what i mean is.. the more rondo stays the more we can land an all star/ superstar players. 

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    It seems unlikely that Rondo will be traded at the Feb deadline because it would be too disruptive to insert him into a contender team lineup and there is not enough time to evaluate his play before the deadline...but more likely that he will be traded after this season.

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    There are teams that are not currently in contention now, but with a trade or two and a good draft pick can be contenders next year or year after... even the Lakers.  

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    Or maybe a young team can develop chemistry together given a couple years.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    I think its more likely that Rondo and other Celtics are traded for players and maybe picks in a three team package deal.   

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    See. above.  Given his slower recovery (not back in Nov/Dec as initially projected) its doubtful that Rondo gets traded until after the season now.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

    Not true.  There have been several potential trade partners (Houston, Detroit, Sacto) and even an inquiry about trading for Rondo (Knicks)...and that was when he was injured!!  

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

    The real question is at the end of which day?

     

     

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    It seems unlikely that Rondo will be traded at the Feb deadline because it would be too disruptive to insert him into a contender team lineup and there is not enough time to evaluate his play before the deadline...but more likely that he will be traded after this season.

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    There are teams that are not currently in contention now, but with a trade or two and a good draft pick can be contenders next year or year after... even the Lakers.  

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    Or maybe a young team can develop chemistry together given a couple years.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    I think its more likely that Rondo and other Celtics are traded for players and maybe picks in a three team package deal.   

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    See. above.  Given his slower recovery (not back in Nov/Dec as initially projected) its doubtful that Rondo gets traded until after the season now.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

    Not true.  There have been several potential trade partners (Houston, Detroit, Sacto) and even an inquiry about trading for Rondo (Knicks)...and that was when he was injured!!  

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

    The real question is at the end of which day?

     

     



    Fair enough. I'd say at the end of the trade deadline Rondo will still be here. At the start of next season Rondo will still be here. Maybe at Next Year's trade deadline (depending on how things are going with the rebuild and contract negotiations) He might get traded but not before.  That is my humble prediction. 

     
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    Re: 5 reasons the odds of Rondo getting traded are very small.

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    Ok, first off we know that Danny Ainge would trade his mother if he thought it would make the Celtics better. But that being said the odds of Rondo being traded are very small.. 

    1) The fact is. Teams in contention all have decent point guards and aren't trading multiple assets for Rondo because doing so would gut their team of contention (Danny is not taking junk back).

    2) Teams out of contention with Multiple young assets (Think Magic.) Are further away than one very good player from contention, so it makes more sense for them to develop their young assets further than to gut those assets and start over for a player that is 28 and will be on the decline by the time they acquire more assets.

    3) The Celtics in pursuit of Free Agency  trades ect.. would rather have some experienced talent to pair with any new acquisitions.  Think keeping Paul Pierce, to pair with Allen and KG.

    4) You can't trade Rondo for a first round draft pick. (Sorry Kurt) If you trade Rondo to say the Bucks. The bucks improve. Probably out of a chance for a top five pick. But not enough to compete for a title (so why would a bottom feeder do this? For a player 28 years old?)

    Yes trading Rondo makes us a bottom feeder, but you can accomplish that just keeping Rondo out for most of the season. 

    5) Rondo's trade value is low, until he proves he has recovered from that injury. Danny is not trading Rondo for Junk. So it makes more sense to hold on to him and see what he can do with Brad Stevens.

    All these Rondo's rumors never mention a trade partner? Why? Because they're most likely not happening.

     

    Sorry Pud and gang. Most likely at the end of the day Rondo is a Celtic.

     

     

     

     



    I have to respectfully disagree. Your number two rationale trumps all. However, for the opposite reason. By the time the Celtics regain relevance, RR will be post 30. Why not go & get a top 5 Center like Asik(and a 1st rounder) and gamble on picking up a gem? Many posters here like to point out RR's draft position. Lightning neverstriking the same place twice is a myth. Isn't Danny supposed to be the ultimate gambler? Indeed we shall see...

     

     

     



    I'd agree with your  rational on point two except I think you are forgetting how flush the Celtics are with Picks and younger talent. Plenty of assets, to trade for a star if one becomes availible. but a star needs another star to compete.  

    My point is I think if you look at Ainge's history. he kept Pierce, traded Jefferson and a top five pick for Allen and KG. 

    I think he keeps Rondo and trade's young assets for other players if he can. 




    i understand that rondo is an asset for us to get another all star  or superstar. 



    Well seriously, when do teams swap superstars? Did Ainge trade Pierce for KG? Did the knicks trade Amare (when he was still good) for Carmelo? Did the Lakers trade Kobe for Dwight Howard? 

     

    Think of most trades involving a superstar, when has another star been swapped for that player? 



    what i mean is.. the more rondo stays the more we can land an all star/ superstar players. 



    Ahh, my bad. Misunderstood. 

     
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