Who's on first?
It ain't Stan Van Gundy. See ya later Stanley ... It's a players' league and you just gave up the ghost. Bye, Bye .......
After an embarrassing presser by Stan Van Gundy the Magic lost to the Knicks 96-80! Alright, no Anderson but could the message from Howard be any clearer? His line for the game .... 8 Pts & 8 Rbs with 5 TO and 5 PF in 40 minutes!
Abbott & Costello in Orlando
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Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 1:37 AM EDT
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Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 2:08 AM EDT
- Mployee8
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Just as Westphal took the fall in the Cousins public outing in Sacramento so too will Van Gundy in Orlando. Stan went public with insider info and threw his best player under the bus risking what management's been working towards all season ... keeping Howard as their superstar. The Magic could wait till the season's over to give him the ax but why wait? They won't win anything now with Van Gundy so with the playoffs coming in a few weeks they'd be better off making a change now. -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 2:43 AM EDT
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I say make BB the Player Coach.... -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 2:52 AM EDT
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Then trade Howard , a first and second pick for Blatche -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 8:05 AM EDT
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A sad situation. Both parties are in the wrong. Charles Barkley more or less said the same thing. -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 9:38 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando:A sad situation. Both parties are in the wrong. Charles Barkley more or less said the same thing.
Posted by cavaliersfan
Agree with you. A very difficult and embarassing situation in Orlando. They are also struggling and it will be interesting to see how they end the season. I suppose that VanGundy is going to be fired, if Orlando continues to struggle. Not sure what will happen in Orlando next season. If they don't improve their roster, Howard will leave at the end of the season. -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 10:10 AM EDT
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Truly a sad situation. We have a combination of an incredibly talented but immature Howard; and on the other hand, a coach without any edit button sensibilities. -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 11:40 AM EDT
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In Response to Abbott & Costello in Orlando:Who's on first? It ain't Stan Van Gundy. See ya later Stanley ... It's a players' league and you just gave up the ghost. Bye, Bye ....... After an embarrassing presser by Stan Van Gundy the Magic lost to the Knicks 96-80! Alright, no Anderson but could the message from Howard be any clearer? His line for the game .... 8 Pts & 8 Rbs with 5 TO and 5 PF in 40 minutes!
Posted by Mployee8
Stan is not my favorite personality in coaching, but I have to give him kudos for having the stones to call dwight howard out. can you imagine living in a professional job as a mature adult who is charged with leading a team and being surrounded by incompetent management who has pandered to a 20 something year old kid who has RUINED YOUR TEAM for the complete season with his inept ability to express his desires?
I'd hate that. It would eat me up from the inside out. Obviously van Gundy did not give a crap if he was fired yesterday before last night's game. He just wanted the charade over. Few coaches have had the balls to come out and say, "Dwight's been trying to get me fired now for some time, I'll leave after this season, but let's play ball for now".
I mean doesn't that make Howard look like the fool that he is? ORL didn't have great chances to go deep this year but Howard has tanked the team with his antics. And then Howard invents an imaginary BACK INJURY to sit out two games like a real latrell sprewell type?
Coincidentally, since Howard sat 2 of the last 3 games, Glen Davis, the fat pig who was rode out of boston on a rail, has averaged 21 and 11. he and von wafer were the only ones in an ORL uniform to show up and play last night. It's a real shame- Dwight has ruined that team.
And for van gundy's part- why wouldn't he want to call it all out in the open- the results of that team that has been ruined by dwight's antics reflect back upon him- and if I was in the profession of coaching and had benedict arnold on my team, i'd let it be known too. i'm sure it's not any big secret among league insiders, but there is such a thing as pride in what you do...... -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 11:46 AM EDT
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i would have thought if van gundy was going to be fired, it would have been yesterday. otis smith is a feckless idiot- if people want to complain about someone not having an "edit" button- it's him- he's allowed this whole thing to get out of control- they should have traded howard instead of re-booting this tragedy to run again all of next year.
there is such a thing as a ... breaking point. and 2 games of howard faking an injury probably did that to van grundy. and who can blame him? i mean you have duh-whight howard, physical gifts for the ages, acting like an 8 year old all year long vascillating b/t staying and going and trying to get you fired.... ???@@$#$
by the way, if van gundy gets fired, he will be hired again, and he will also receive a golden parachute. he has nothing to lose. at this point in the season, with howard now tanking with fake injuries and going further head case, he also has NOTHING TO LOSE- as in the team can't play any worse- they've reached rock bottom and can go nowhere but up. and if stan goes out the door instead, i'm sure it's a relief.
the only person who would say "it's a shame on both of their parts" is someone who wants dwight howard to look good in this situation- and he shouldn't- he's transformed from likable innocent kid to mercurial lebron-type corn holle. there's not much to like about that. -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 3:48 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando:In Response to Abbott & Costello in Orlando : Stan is not my favorite personality in coaching, but I have to give him kudos for having the stones to call dwight howard out. can you imagine living in a professional job as a mature adult who is charged with leading a team and being surrounded by incompetent management who has pandered to a 20 something year old kid who has RUINED YOUR TEAM for the complete season with his inept ability to express his desires? I'd hate that. It would eat me up from the inside out. Obviously van Gundy did not give a crap if he was fired yesterday before last night's game. He just wanted the charade over. Few coaches have had the balls to come out and say, "Dwight's been trying to get me fired now for some time, I'll leave after this season, but let's play ball for now". I mean doesn't that make Howard look like the fool that he is? ORL didn't have great chances to go deep this year but Howard has tanked the team with his antics. And then Howard invents an imaginary BACK INJURY to sit out two games like a real latrell sprewell type? Coincidentally, since Howard sat 2 of the last 3 games, Glen Davis, the fat pig who was rode out of boston on a rail, has averaged 21 and 11. he and von wafer were the only ones in an ORL uniform to show up and play last night. It's a real shame- Dwight has ruined that team. And for van gundy's part- why wouldn't he want to call it all out in the open- the results of that team that has been ruined by dwight's antics reflect back upon him- and if I was in the profession of coaching and had benedict arnold on my team, i'd let it be known too. i'm sure it's not any big secret among league insiders, but there is such a thing as pride in what you do......
Posted by aciemvpAcie why do you keep talking up Davis? He has had a horrible year with Orlando. He just got to 40 percent shooting, which obviously as a big is about as bad as it gets and he has never been able to rebound. Not that Bass can either but I guess my point is why can't you let it go? It would be one thing if Davis was tearing it up in Orlando but wow...he really isn't. -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 4:01 PM EDT
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Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 4:03 PM EDT
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Glad DH didn't want to come to the Lakers. Bynum has turned out pretty good. By the way I always said he wasn't going to be traded to the Lakers. -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 5:19 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando:Glad DH didn't want to come to the Lakers. Bynum has turned out pretty good. By the way I always said he wasn't going to be traded to the Lakers.
Posted by TheNewGKDynastyBynum is a beast. No doubt about it. -
Re: Abbott & Costello in Orlando
posted at 4/6/2012 8:01 PM EDT
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The question is, Does this help our chances of landing Howard??? Hmmmm...